Wait till Polaris/Pascal?

[imkinger]

So what are you guys thinking?

Buy a GTX 970/R9 390 now

Or wait till pascal and polaris get in buisness?

im honestly debating this with myself and my friends,since we all play CSGO togheter(I play more then CS,I play witcher and some demanding games like Tera Online and Modded fallout 4)

[zootcake]

do you not have a gpu rn

 

[imkinger]

Just now, zootcake said:

do you not have a gpu rn

 

nope,Im useing intels iGPU becuase my 280x fried.

[Orangeator]

Just wait, honestly it is worth it. The prices on all the r9 300 series and gtx 900 series will drop.

[Guest]

Fallout 4 tbh, I would not recommend a 970. In this case you should wait, however, once Pascal and Polaris go on sale take a look into the used market if you wanna stick with 900 and 300 series. You might find heavily discounted GPU's because everyone wants the latest and greatest.

[imkinger]

Just now, Ronnie76 said:

Fallout 4 tbh, I would not recommend a 970. In this case you should wait, however, once Pascal and Polaris go on sale take a look into the used market if you wanna stick with 900 and 300 series. You might find heavily discounted GPU's because everyone wants the latest and greatest.

interesting,But wont I as a consumer also want Pascal and polaris?

btw whats so damn good about them anyways becuase my friends told me to wait by themselves and they usaully just tell me to buy the latest and greatest I can afford right now.

[zootcake]

Just now, imkinger said:

nope,Im useing intels iGPU becuase my 280x fried.

than I suggest maybe waiting to save up for something like a 980ti or something but I dont think the price will be worth it to get pascal/polaris. Think of skylake, all last gen cpu's are still amazing and more easy on the wallet.

[imkinger]

Just now, zootcake said:

than I suggest maybe waiting to save up for something like a 980ti or something but I dont think the price will be worth it to get pascal/polaris. Think of skylake, all last gen cpu's are still amazing and more easy on the wallet.

allright,but why a 980 TI and not a 390 or Fury?(970)

[DocSwag]

Just now, imkinger said:

interesting,But wont I as a consumer also want Pascal and polaris?

btw whats so damn good about them anyways becuase my friends told me to wait by themselves and they usaully just tell me to buy the latest and greatest I can afford right now.

Why are they so great?

     GPUs have been at the same process node for 5 years now (28nm). Why? Originally GPUs were supposed to go to 20nm 2 or 3 years ago, but 20nm flopped really big due to multiple issues, with the biggest being leakage.

Now, we are finally going to transfer to a new node-14/16nm FinFET. If you don't know what FinFET is, it is basically a different design of transistors that better controls leakage to increase efficiency. This, added with a "double jump" in process nodes will offer a HUGE leap in efficiency and so performance as well.

This is why, with only a few months until their launch, buying a GPU right now is not the best idea since in just a few months chances are there value will drop tremendously and with the same amount of money you will probably have been able to afford a GPU that is much more powerful.

[DocSwag]

3 minutes ago, zootcake said:

than I suggest maybe waiting to save up for something like a 980ti or something but I dont think the price will be worth it to get pascal/polaris. Think of skylake, all last gen cpu's are still amazing and more easy on the wallet.

CPUs are different. The reason Skylake didn't bring much of an improvement is because Intel has no competition from AMD so CPUs progress super slowly. AMD may not have a big GPU market share, but they are still competitive-Nvidia can't slow down or AMD will overtake them. Polaris and Pascal will offer huge performance improvements-nothing like Skylake.

[Hunter7263]

10 minutes ago, imkinger said:

So what are you guys thinking?

Buy a GTX 970/R9 390 now

Or wait till pascal and polaris get in buisness?

im honestly debating this with myself and my friends,since we all play CSGO togheter(I play more then CS,I play witcher and some demanding games like Tera Online and Modded fallout 4)

I would get an r9 390 now. I only play at 1080p 60hz though. Pascal/Polaris cant improve on the performance only the efficiency basically with how powerful they are. I would not recommend the 970 unless you absolutely need it. If you want Nvidia wait for Pascal. The current 900 series isn't full DirectX 12 compatible. At least last time I checked anyway.

[imkinger]

@DocSwag Thanks for the great explanition,I think im going to wait for them.

For now il just build in a new case called the Thermaltake V21 and look at the panel with no GPU,Being all sad and shiet.

Maybe I can get my brother to give me his old Radeon 3750

[zootcake]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

CPUs are different. The reason Skylake didn't bring much of an improvement is because Intel has no competition from AMD so CPUs progress super slowly. AMD may not have a big GPU market share, but they are still competitive-Nvidia can't slow down or AMD will overtake them. Polaris and Pascal will offer huge performance improvements-nothing like Skylake.

yeah thats true but I am O K with my 980ti right now and do not plan on updating for many years

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, imkinger said:

interesting,But wont I as a consumer also want Pascal and polaris?

btw whats so damn good about them anyways becuase my friends told me to wait by themselves and they usaully just tell me to buy the latest and greatest I can afford right now.

Faster memory, efficiency always increases.

My statement still stands, If you want fast VRAM go get a Fury X. 

NVIDIA won't have HBM for a while. Maybe on the next Titan based GPU, but as far as I know, not on the major flagships. Also I would recommend looking here

http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8 if you want a temporary GPU

[imkinger]

1 minute ago, Ronnie76 said:

Faster memory, efficiency always increases.

My statement still stands, If you want fast VRAM go get a Fury X. 

NVIDIA won't have HBM for a while. Maybe on the next Titan based GPU, but as far as I know, not on the major flagships. Also I would recommend looking here

http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8 if you want a temporary GPU

are they even able to run CSGO at high settings 150 FPS?

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, imkinger said:

are they even able to run CSGO at high settings 150 FPS?

 

 

[imkinger]

@Ronnie76 Thanks bruh <3

[imkinger]

@Ronnie76 SLIGHT PROBLEM MADAM,They dont ship to israel T_T

[imkinger]

How would a Radeon 3750 handle CS at low settings 1280x1024?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, imkinger said:

@Ronnie76 SLIGHT PROBLEM MADAM,They dont ship to israel T_T

Indeed that is a problem... Rip dream of cheap GPU's 
Sorry man!

and I wish I was a madam

[imkinger]

1 minute ago, Ronnie76 said:

Indeed that is a problem... Rip dream of cheap GPU's 
Sorry man!

and I wish I was a madam

I used the wrong term

can you help me find a benchmark of a 3750 on CS?

[Citadelen]

Expect Polaris to release first, shortly followed by Pascal. We don't know anything about performance, although a safe assumption is that AMD will be more power efficient and cooler.

[imkinger]

 

9 hours ago, Citadelen said:

Expect Polaris to release first, shortly followed by Pascal. We don't know anything about performance, although a safe assumption is that AMD will be more power efficient and cooler.

I see,btw my brother agreed on giveing me his old 4870 so I think I can last in CSGO untill Polaris or Pascal releases,TBH I hope Pascal will be a bit better becuase I want to get shadowplay(AS IT IS SO GOD DAMN GOOD)

and I wonder if AMD will give us more watercooled cards,I love the AIO liquid cool cards becuase I swear my prefrence of style is refrence+AIOs 

[Citadelen]

51 minutes ago, imkinger said:

 

I see,btw my brother agreed on giveing me his old 4870 so I think I can last in CSGO untill Polaris or Pascal releases,TBH I hope Pascal will be a bit better becuase I want to get shadowplay(AS IT IS SO GOD DAMN GOOD)

and I wonder if AMD will give us more watercooled cards,I love the AIO liquid cool cards becuase I swear my prefrence of style is refrence+AIOs 

If your using AMD OBS is just as good if not better than Shadowplay.

[Badger906]

I'd just buy a card now. the prices of current gpus are cheaper than the newer ones will be at the same level (not performance wise just where they sit in the family of cards) 

 

the new cards will just be the usual 10-15% performance gains we get every year. only if you're willing to pay for top end do you get the huge boost. 

 

just look at amd.. they've rebranded the same card 3 years on the trot.. and it still holds up!