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Predator 360

BuckGup
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Can you swap out the CPU block on the predator 360? It looks like it just has compression fittings but I might be wrong. Also do you think this will show a significant difference in temps from a H100iGTX? 

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Can you swap out the CPU block on the predator 360? It looks like it just has compression fittings but I might be wrong. Also do you think this will show a significant difference in temps from a H100iGTX? 

Yes you can break down the entire loop if you wanted to, and replace parts, and it will cool more effecively with the extra surface area and better pump especially if your wanting to do a full loop later on.

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12 minutes ago, W-L said:

Yes you can break down the entire loop if you wanted to, and replace parts, and it will cool more effecively with the extra surface area and better pump especially if your wanting to do a full loop later on.

Those are my future plans. X99 is 2011v3 right?

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Those are my future plans. X99 is 2011v3 right?

Yes X99 is socket 2011-v3, the Predator is a fairly good option for expansion but if you wanted to do everything custom since your going to be taking apart the unit the kits from EKWB are also a great starting point if your interested.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/kits

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49 minutes ago, W-L said:

Yes X99 is socket 2011-v3, the Predator is a fairly good option for expansion but if you wanted to do everything custom since your going to be taking apart the unit the kits from EKWB are also a great starting point if your interested.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/kits

If I was going to build the loop with the AIO do I still need to change the fluid like normal custom ones? If so I am doing custom

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20 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

If I was going to build the loop with the AIO do I still need to change the fluid like normal custom ones? If so I am doing custom

The design of the predator was to have it expandable without needed to open the loop by using QDC and prefill blocks but once you change out the original fluid, what looks to be gylcol type fluid, similar to other AIO's I believe it does require regular maintenance with standard watercooling fluids. 

 

@EK Luc probbaly knows more about that, and I'm curious myself.

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13 minutes ago, W-L said:

The design of the predator was to have it expandable without needed to open the loop by using QDC and prefill blocks but once you change out the original fluid, what looks to be gylcol type fluid, similar to other AIO's I believe it does require regular maintenance with standard watercooling fluids. 

 

@EK Luc probbaly knows more about that, and I'm curious myself.

Could I just buy glycol fluid and never change the liquid in a custom loop if I used similar metals and a piece of silver to stop growth?

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31 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

If I was going to build the loop with the AIO do I still need to change the fluid like normal custom ones? If so I am doing custom

 

11 minutes ago, W-L said:

The design of the predator was to have it expandable without needed to open the loop by using QDC and prefill blocks but once you change out the original fluid, what looks to be gylcol type fluid, similar to other AIO's I believe it does require regular maintenance with standard watercooling fluids. 

 

@EK Luc probbaly knows more about that, and I'm curious myself.

W-L is right.

 

If you use the Predator without changing anything on it in the exception of adding a pre-filled GPU block with the QDC system, then the unit won't need any maintenance for something like 3 years or so.  But if you add another radiator or reservoir or swap the CPU block or tubing then it means that you need to flush the unit and then it will need a yearly maintenance like a custom loop.

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Could I just buy glycol fluid and never change the liquid in a custom loop if I used similar metals and a piece of silver to stop growth?

As said by Ek Luc it wouldn't be totatly maintenance free still since it's not a 100% sealed loop, for general fluids you can last 12months usually if not longer depending on the conditions during install. 

 

As for silver depends on what you have in the loop if there is any nickel then you can't use silver they are borderline dis-similar metals to nickel. Your best bet would be a good quality biocide or premxed fluid.

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38 minutes ago, EK Luc said:

 

W-L is right.

 

If you use the Predator without changing anything on it in the exception of adding a pre-filled GPU block with the QDC system, then the unit won't need any maintenance for something like 3 years or so.  But if you add another radiator or reservoir or swap the CPU block or tubing then it means that you need to flush the unit and then it will need a yearly maintenance like a custom loop.

What makes the fluid inside the pre filled one so special, if I may ask.

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21 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

What makes the fluid inside the pre filled one so special, if I may ask.

It's nothing too special it's a blend of ethernet glycol or antifreeze with some additive from my understanding. In a full sealed loop they will not see any contaminates or evaporation compared to a custom/semi custom loop. Where the EK unit can work for long periods of time but still does require a fluid change.

 

Just to give you an idea the Mayhems fluids do give an absolute max in system lifespan of 3 years but usually most change the fluid before that where 12 months is a good general point but it can run longer.

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1 hour ago, W-L said:

It's nothing too special it's a blend of ethernet glycol or antifreeze with some additive from my understanding. In a full sealed loop they will not see any contaminates or evaporation compared to a custom/semi custom loop. Where the EK unit can work for long periods of time but still does require a fluid change.

 

Just to give you an idea the Mayhems fluids do give an absolute max in system lifespan of 3 years but usually most change the fluid before that where 12 months is a good general point but it can run longer.

Ohh I got it now. I will probably just do a custom one then

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13 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Ohh I got it now. I will probably just do a custom one then

 Did you check out EK's custom kits?

- ASUS X99 Deluxe - i7 5820k - Nvidia GTX 1080ti SLi - 4x4GB EVGA SSC 2800mhz DDR4 - Samsung SM951 500 - 2x Samsung 850 EVO 512 -

- EK Supremacy EVO CPU Block - EK FC 1080 GPU Blocks - EK XRES 100 DDC - EK Coolstream XE 360 - EK Coolstream XE 240 -

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9 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 Did you check out EK's custom kits?

Yeah. But I want to do it. MEEE

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11 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Yeah. But I want to do it. MEEE

 

Lol, you will.  They are fully custom loops, they just give you all compatible parts in one kit at a discounted price so that you don't have to worry about choosing all the correct parts yourself.

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