CPU

[ZeusXI]

Just now, nobiensky(TigerSoze) said:

just curious, are you considering amd cpu's?

Ive thrown AMD in the air honestly. i was looking at zen, or kevari stuff. i play Star Citizen, Battlefield 4, Dying Light, and a few other games like those

 

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

Ive thrown AMD in the air honestly. i was looking at zen, or kevari stuff. i play Star Citizen, Battlefield 4, Dying Light, and a few other games like those

 

AMD has nothing worth considering outside of the extreme budget situations right now, and I highly doubt Zen will outperform Haswell (or skylake) -- I certainly wouldn't be waiting for Zen. 

[ZeusXI]

 

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

you don't need 4ghz. A Xeon E3 1231v3 @3.5ghz is more than capable of handling gaming. Especially with a 960...a locked i5 is a more appropriate CPU to pair with a 960, so like I said, I would really suggest putting more money towards your GPU than your cpu. 

whats the max GPU a xeon e3 handle? you say save money, and go more GPU than cpu, i see the E3 is like 250$

[nobiensky(TigerSoze)]

1 minute ago, ZeusXI said:

Ive thrown AMD in the air honestly. i was looking at zen, or kevari stuff. i play Star Citizen, Battlefield 4, Dying Light, and a few other games like those

 

theres the FX-9590 at 4.7 ghz stock (8 cores too) with 8mb of cache. similar price to i5 6600k

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

 

whats the max GPU a xeon e3 handle? you say save money, and go more GPU than cpu, i see the E3 is like 250$

SLI 980Tis 

 

The E3 is like $250, but can run on a $40 board whereas a 6700k is $380~ and requires a $100+ board. 

3 minutes ago, nobiensky(TigerSoze) said:

theres the FX-9590 at 4.7 ghz stock (8 cores too) with 8mb of cache

And that gets stomped on by even an i5-4440 in gaming. 

[ZeusXI]

1 minute ago, nobiensky(TigerSoze) said:

theres the FX-9590 at 4.7 ghz stock (8 cores too) with 8mb of cache. similar price to i5 6600k

dont forget about the 250Watt power draw...

[nobiensky(TigerSoze)]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

SLI 980Tis 

And that gets stomped on by even an i5-4440 in gaming. 

ignore this part

Just now, ZeusXI said:

dont forget about the 250Watt power draw...

yep.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, nobiensky(TigerSoze) said:

ignore this part

yep.

lol, would you like to prove me wrong? The FX series can't compete with Intel's offerings. 

 

For rendering on a tight budget an FX cpu can make sense (FX6 > i3, FX8 > locked i5), but for gaming or anything more than a tight budget intel will outperform anything AMD has to offer. 

[nobiensky(TigerSoze)]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

lol, would you like to prove me wrong? The FX series can't compete with anything Intel has to offer at this point. 

i cant deny that, not gonna start an argument lol. also i quoted you on accident :3

[ZeusXI]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

lol, would you like to prove me wrong? The FX series can't compete with anything Intel has to offer at this point. 

If Zen makes a jump, maybe id the consider. but there has been no specs and tests done, so im left blank on AMD's part. the Xeon is looking nice atm though to be honest

[Redicat]

Well go with an Skylake I5 but idk if you could make anything affordable to overclock but the Xeons also got higher in price for some reason...

[ZeusXI]

17 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

SLI 980Tis 

 

The E3 is like $250, but can run on a $40 board whereas a 6700k is $380~ and requires a $100+ board. 

And that gets stomped on by even an i5-4440 in gaming. 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1231-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790

xeon looks a little bit slower. but a 100$ less is nice

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1231-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790

xeon looks a little bit slower. but a 100$ less is nice

Don't use CPU boss it's an awful basis for a real world comparison. But yes, the 4790 would slightly (irrelevantly slightly) outperform a Xeon E3 since it's clocked .2ghz higher. 

[ZeusXI]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Don't use CPU boss it's an awful basis for a real world comparison. But yes, the 4790 would slightly (irrelevantly slightly) outperform a Xeon E3 since it's clocked .2ghz higher. 

but other than that, since there clock is almost the same, same arc, same specs basically, they will run the same?
 

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

but other than that, since there clock is almost the same, same arc, same specs basically, they will run the same?
 

yes 

 

The only difference is the lack of an integrated gpu and the clock speed (as well as being a tiny bit more efficient).

[ZeusXI]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

yes 

so...all in all...xeon is the better option in this because i actually dont have any motive to overclock my cpu AT ALL (past problems with a computer that is no longer with us...) so also since they are the same socket, I can keep the black/white theme since the LGA is the same  and with the saved money, i can pool it and wait till i get enough for a 970 or something

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

so...all in all...xeon is the better option in this because i actually dont have any motive to overclock my cpu AT ALL (past problems with a computer that is no longer with us...) so also since they are the same socket, I can keep the black/white theme since the LGA is the same  and with the saved money, i can pool it and wait till i get enough for a 970 or something

yes. 

[ZeusXI]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

yes. 

Here was I was thinking before

https://pchound.com/SFtBUL/

(please dont say anything about the graphics card, thats in the air, and this is all personal preference of color scheme) 

 

and after

 

https://pchound.com/RfuUBY/

 

saving 141$ to put into GPU pool

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

Here was I was thinking before

https://pchound.com/SFtBUL/

(please dont say anything about the graphics card, thats in the air, and this is all personal preference of color scheme) 

 

and after

 

https://pchound.com/RfuUBY/

 

saving 141$ to put into GPU pool

you don't need such an expensive cooler -- even a stock cooler is fine (other than being obnoxiously loud). I would also consider going with a different/cheaper PSU -- I would either go with something cheaper or something capable of SLI/Crossfire. 

[ZeusXI]

11 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

you don't need such an expensive cooler -- even a stock cooler is fine (other than being obnoxiously loud). I would also consider going with a different/cheaper PSU -- I would either go with something cheaper or something capable of SLI/Crossfire. 

im not really an overclocker on the CPU, so i guess i can save more money and get the 212 cooler. i dont really think i would nee to SLI anything because i dont have that much money to spend lol. any thoughts on PSU with a white/black theme? or just white cables?

 

[79wjd]

10 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

im not really an overclocker on the CPU, so i guess i can save more money and get the 212 cooler. i dont really think i would nee to SLI anything because i dont have that much money to spend lol. any thoughts on PSU with a white/black theme? or just white cables?

 

Are you set on the Define S? Maybe go with something that has a PSU shroud (like the Black/White H440) -- I personally really like cases with PSU shrouds. and then just get some white extensions. 

 

As for the PSU itself, the psu you chose is perfectly fine, I'm just giving my personal suggestion. I would either be go with a solid/cheap unit (like the Seasonic S12II 520w or XFX P1 550w -- $55~) or something really high end that will last through several builds/upgrades/SLI/crossfire (like the EVGA GQ/G2 750w/850w -- $100~).

[ZeusXI]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Are you set on the Define S? Maybe go with something that has a PSU shroud (like the Black/White H440) -- I personally really like cases with PSU shrouds. and then just get some white extensions. 

 

As for the PSU itself, the psu you chose is perfectly fine, I'm just giving my personal suggestion -- which would either be go with a solid/cheap unit (like the Seasonic S12II 520w or XFX P1 550w -- $55~) or something really high end that will last through several builds/upgrades (like SLI/crossfire) -- something like the EVGA GQ/G2 750w/850w -- $100~.

The psu i have selected is a gold certified and 5 star rating. im pretty set on the Define S. harddrives are in back, sound dampening, SSD cage in back, all cable managed (im kinda OCD about that stuff). ill check out the other 2 desktops you put in the message.

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

The psu i have selected is a gold certified and 5 star rating. im pretty set on the Define S. harddrives are in back, sound dampening, SSD cage in back, all cable managed (im kinda OCD about that stuff). ill check out the other 2 desktops you put in the message.

Like I said, the PSU you chose is a solid unit, it's just in an awkward spot imo -- I would either want to go cheap and solid ($50~) or high tier and expandable ($100~). Whereas the PSU you chose is perfect if you're confident you'll never get a second GPU, but it's priced kind of awkwardly between the two price points that would make me want to go one way or the other. 

[ZeusXI]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Like I said, the PSU you chose is a solid unit, it's just in an awkward spot imo -- I would either want to go cheap and solid ($50~) or high tier and expandable ($100~). Whereas the PSU you chose is perfect if you're confident you'll never get a second GPU, but it's priced kind of awkwardly between the two price points that would make me want to go one way or the other. 

I understand what you mean. ill take a little more time (im still waiting a little bit before my final decision) ill look more into the CPU cooler, and the PSU  and also the cases you proposed