CPU socket types

[Biggerboot]

X99 would be better for editing because of the CPU available for it, the i7 Haswell-E series, which gives you 6 cores and 12 threads.  Media production software loves more cores.

 

The skylake i7 has slightly better performance to the thread, but only 4 cores/8 threads on the i7.  This is slightly better for gaming.

 

Either way you'll be good for both gaming and editing, but more recommendations tend to go towards the x99 for its value for the performance.  Skylake on the other hand, is a newer and shinier platform with more potential to be upgraded down the road.

[Gentlekatt]

Just now, Biggerboot said:

X99 would be better for editing because of the CPU available for it, the i7 Haswell-E series, which gives you 6 cores and 12 threads.  Media production software loves more cores.

 

The skylake i7 has slightly better performance to the thread, but only 4 cores/8 threads on the i7.  This is slightly better for gaming.

 

Either way you'll be good for both gaming and editing, but more recommendations tend to go towards the x99 for its value for the performance.  Skylake on the other hand, is a newer and shinier platform with more potential to be upgraded down the road.

i want just gaming skylake cpu and only z170 supports overclocking but i just want to figure out once and for all which is best for gaming how do i determine and what do i need to look at?

[connorpiper]

2 minutes ago, Gentlekatt said:

i want just gaming skylake cpu and only z170 supports overclocking but i just want to figure out once and for all which is best for gaming how do i determine and what do i need to look at?

Just gaming, go with a 6700K on Z170 or a 4690K or Z97.

 

[Gentlekatt]

Just now, connorpiper said:

Just gaming, go with a 6700K on Z170 or a 4690K or Z97.

 

but you see i want to know what you know like i really want to know how do i determine it?

[Biggerboot]

1 minute ago, Gentlekatt said:

i want just gaming skylake cpu and only z170 supports overclocking but i just want to figure out once and for all which is best for gaming how do i determine and what do i need to look at?

You would get the i7 6700k.

 

If you want to learn more about why the i7 is the best for gaming, or what makes a cpu better for gaming in general, it requires some research.  Go look at some reviews on Tomshardware or Linus's own videos.

[Gentlekatt]

Just now, Biggerboot said:

You would get the i7 6700k.

 

If you want to learn more about why the i7 is the best for gaming, or what makes a cpu better for gaming in general, it requires some research.  Go look at some reviews on Tomshardware or Linus's own videos.

ok 

[Biggerboot]

6 minutes ago, Gentlekatt said:

ok 

Just as an intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcVBqwlnmlM

 

And looking up "i7 6700k review" (or whatever cpu) in google typically gives you not only a review on the cpu, but it's relevant performance to other chips with in-game benchmarks.

[connorpiper]

12 minutes ago, Gentlekatt said:

but you see i want to know what you know like i really want to know how do i determine it?

Z means the chipset can overclock. And theK at the end of the CPU name means that it is unlocked and can be overclocked. 

 

[TidaLWaveZ]

17 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

No.

 

You get a 4790k on a B75 board at 4.0ghz, 4.4 boost, its going to offer the same performance as a 4790k on a Z97 board at 4.0 ghz, 4.4ghz boost.

 

I don't know what you're getting at with that, but for those two different boards to support the same CPU they must have the same socket support.

 

I'm talking about boards of different cpu classes. For example to cater to Haswell-e CPUs, an X99 motherboard has meet certain standards for the CPU, making it perform better than one of it's predecessors (X79, X58).

 

 

[connorpiper]

14 minutes ago, Gentlekatt said:

but you see i want to know what you know like i really want to know how do i determine it?

-snip-

 

[connorpiper]

14 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

You would get the i7 6700k.

 

If you want to learn more about why the i7 is the best for gaming, or what makes a cpu better for gaming in general, it requires some research.  Go look at some reviews on Tomshardware or Linus's own videos.

It is more than enough for gaming. Most games will only use 2-4 cores of a CPU. And the i7 with its 8 threads and increased price currently makes it a bad buy if the computer is just going to be used for gaming. 

[Gentlekatt]

4 minutes ago, connorpiper said:

Z means the chipset can overclock. And theK at the end of the CPU name means that it is unlocked and can be overclocked. 

 

thats more like it here we go thank  you for your answer this is what i wanted

 

[Biggerboot]

1 minute ago, connorpiper said:

It is more than enough for gaming. Most games will only use 2-4 cores of a CPU. And the i7 with its 8 threads and increased price currently makes it a bad buy if the computer is just going to be used for gaming. 

 

I agree with what you're saying, an i5 would be sufficient.  But he specifically asked for the best so I was answering his question.  An i7 gives all around better performance for games, even if it's a marginal improvement for some scenarios.

 

This is why I suggested that he needs to do research.  But some are only interested in having the best.

[connorpiper]

1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

 

I agree with what you're saying, an i5 would be sufficient.  But he specifically asked for the best so I was answering his question.  An i7 gives all around better performance for games, even if it's a marginal improvement for some scenarios.

 

This is why I suggested that he needs to do research.  But some are only interested in having the best.

Then the 4790K, because it is not having a price hike, rather a price drop.

[Biggerboot]

1 minute ago, connorpiper said:

Then the 4790K, because it is not having a price hike, rather a price drop.

Again, he asked for the best CPU for gaming, any why, not the best value.

 

If the question was rephrased to best value, I would suggest other options.

[connorpiper]

2 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Again, he asked for the best CPU for gaming, any why, not the best value.

 

If the question was rephrased to best value, I would suggest other options.

The 4790K is actually the same as the 6700K in basically every game. 

And I am guessing this person does not have unlimited funds, so why not get then a good deal why I am at it?

[Biggerboot]

12 minutes ago, connorpiper said:

The 4790K is actually the same as the 6700K is basically every game. 

And I am guessing this person does not have unlimited funds, so why not get then a good deal why I am at it?

Currently yes, I agree that he's not going to see much of a difference, and if it were me I'd wait on skylake unless it's an i3.  Even if he went with a 4690k, I bet he would be plenty happy with it.

 

But once again, you have to look at the questions he's been asking.  Some people aren't concerned with saving 50 bucks here or there if they can have the best.  He's talking about overclocking before even knowing about the fundamentals, so I only want to give him what he needs to know to have the fastest cpu today for gaming.

[FruitBasketSilex]

1 hour ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

I don't know what you're getting at with that, but for those two different boards to support the same CPU they must have the same socket support.

 

I'm talking about boards of different cpu classes. For example to cater to Haswell-e CPUs, an X99 motherboard has meet certain standards for the CPU, making it perform better than one of it's predecessors (X79, X58).

 

 

*facepalm* no shit. They're entirely different generations. And they're not necessarily better, they just have different setups for the new architecture. Unless we're talking about a change like PCIE 2-->3, which is something different entirely.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 hour ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

*facepalm* no shit. They're entirely different generations. And they're not necessarily better, they just have different setups for the new architecture. Unless we're talking about a change like PCIE 2-->3, which is something different entirely.

You literally said performance isn't altered by the motherboard. That's a huge generalization, especially when the topic is about the difference between two completely different chipsets and socket types. 

 

Secondly, you'd be wrong to say that about all motherboards of the same chipset also. If that were the case, performance results would be exactly the same across every motherboard of a chipset. Motherboards all have different setups with different features, including cooling and power phasing (which both directly effect performance).

[FruitBasketSilex]

18 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

You literally said performance isn't altered by the motherboard. That's a huge generalization, especially when the topic is about the difference between two completely different chipsets and socket types. 

 

Secondly, you'd be wrong to say that about all motherboards of the same chipset also. If that were the case, performance results would be exactly the same across every motherboard of a chipset. Motherboards all have different setups with different features, including cooling and power phasing (which both directly effect performance).

*sigh* you're technically correct, however, if you weren't a smartass and understood what I was actually saying, then maybe you would see my point, eh?

[FruitBasketSilex]

23 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

You literally said performance isn't altered by the motherboard. That's a huge generalization, especially when the topic is about the difference between two completely different chipsets and socket types. 

 

Secondly, you'd be wrong to say that about all motherboards of the same chipset also. If that were the case, performance results would be exactly the same across every motherboard of a chipset. Motherboards all have different setups with different features, including cooling and power phasing (which both directly effect performance).

We're talking CPU performance, genius.

 

And I make general statements because I have a short amount of time to write out responses on my phone.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

*sigh* you're technically correct, however, if you weren't a smartass and understood what I was actually saying, then maybe you would see my point, eh?

Yeah, but being a smart ass is one of my defining qualities. 

 

Also not to be a prick but I'm assuming the original poster is from a non English speaking country or is 5 years old by the way that they talked in every post, so I didnt want them to take the original statement literally.

[FruitBasketSilex]

Just now, TidaLWaveZ said:

Yeah, but being a smart ass is one of my defining qualities. 

 

Also not to be a prick but I'm assuming the original poster is from a non English speaking country or is 5 years old by the way that they talked in every post, so I didnt want them to take the original statement literally.

My friend is a smartass, there's a reason I find him really god damn annoying.