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Javascript != Java. These are two very different languages and no offense but IMO: if you dont know the difference between the two your opinion on Java going away or not is not relevant. If you don't know the difference between the two, you probably dont know the advantages and disadvantages of both.

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Javascript is not going way it is current and with everything going web it is more useful

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Just now, Brenz said:

I don't think the comment of 1 person in a thread really requires a whole new thread?

People keep on saying this, yet ignore when people reply to them saying Java is not JavaScript.

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1 minute ago, TheGamingBarrel said:

People keep on saying this, yet ignore when people reply to them saying Java is not JavaScript.

True and yes Java(not script) is going away

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Yeah well.. 
Javascript != Java. These are two very different languages and no offense but IMO: if you dont know the difference between the two your opinion on Java going away or not is not relevant. If you don't know the difference between the two, you probably dont know the advantages and disadvantages of both.

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Java != JavaScript

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2 minutes ago, TheGamingBarrel said:

People keep on saying this, yet ignore when people reply to them saying Java is not JavaScript.

Neither are decreasing in popularity. Java currently sits at #1 and is the fastest growing language right now. Javascript is #8 in the list.

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1 minute ago, Brenz said:

No it isn't. Stop spreading misinformation.

its less popular then JS is

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Neither are decreasing in popularity. Java currently sits at #1 and is the fastest growing language right now. Javascript is #8 in the list.

Java web browser stuff and Android is moving away from it, if that is what I can remembeer correctly

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1 minute ago, TheGamingBarrel said:

Java web browser stuff and Android is moving away from it, if that is what I can remembeer correctly

everything is going web bassed 

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1 minute ago, pantsRoptional said:

its less popular then JS is

Nope. As I stated Java is currently the most popular language, the lowest position it has ever been is #2. Javascript peaked at #6 last year.

Just now, TheGamingBarrel said:

Java web browser stuff and Android is moving away from it, if that is what I can remembeer correctly

Java is still heavily used in enterprise applications.

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I never meant to say java isn't useful I use it I just think JS is better to learn now.

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6 minutes ago, pantsRoptional said:

I never meant to say java isn't useful I use it I just think JS is better to learn now.

I'm not talking about the usefulness of either language but you explicitly stated that Javascript is more popular than Java which is totally incorrect

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Just now, Brenz said:

I'm not talking about the usefulness of either language but you explicitly stated that Javascript is more popular than Java which is totally incorrect

Actual popularity was not what I meant I don't really care about that. I care about what the people I'm working with are using.

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21 minutes ago, pantsRoptional said:

Actual popularity was not what I meant I don't really care about that. I care about what the people I'm working with are using.

So don't state it on a forum that includes people you don't work with. Most software engineering departments will focus on a few specific languages, it doesn't mean any others are 'less popular' or 'going away'. Nobody else cares about what your company uses as a language when trying to learn about software engineering in general.

In fact language usage and specialization can vary by city where companies that require engineers specializing in a specific language will move closer to other companies using the same language causing whole areas to favour a language over others.

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1 hour ago, pantsRoptional said:

Javascript is not going way it is current and with everything going web it is more useful

Yeah, sure, it's probably not going away for a while but eventually something may come along to replace it (plenty of people are trying to make it happen). Until then it's going to remain an important aspect of web development.

 

1 hour ago, pantsRoptional said:

True and yes Java(not script) is going away

Saying that Java is going away is also pretty pointless. Sure, it may happen eventually (again, plenty of people are trying to make it happen) but it's probably not going anywhere in the near future either.

Just like JavaScript has alternatives (Coffeescript, Typescript, etc), Java also has alternatives (Scala, Groovy, Clojure, etc). Even though many people use these alternatives, the original languages are still being used quite a lot.

 

46 minutes ago, pantsRoptional said:

I never meant to say java isn't useful I use it I just think JS is better to learn now.

This is relative to what you're working on. For Android apps, most people will pick Java over JavaScript. If you're a backend web dev or developing a desktop app, you can use JavaScript but there are plenty of other languages you may choose instead (including Java). 

While you can learn and use JavaScript for a variety of things, it doesn't mean everyone is going to choose it. 

 

37 minutes ago, pantsRoptional said:

Actual popularity was not what I meant I don't really care about that. I care about what the people I'm working with are using.

"My coworkes and I use language x" isn't an argument for why someone else should also learn said language. Use whatever language makes sense for you/your company/your project/etc.

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7 hours ago, pantsRoptional said:

I never meant to say java isn't useful I use it I just think JS is better to learn now.

Dude people have said Java != JS so many times, do you not know what that means? They aren't used for the same thing for the most part or ever. (Speaking from what I have seen and learned so far.)

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2 minutes ago, pureGold said:

Dude people have said Java != JS so many times, do you not know what that means? They aren't used for the same thing. 

!=  means not equal 

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10 hours ago, pantsRoptional said:

!=  means not equal 

I think he knows that. He is saying they are not only not the same thing, they are in entirely different leagues. To compare the two like you have is to be completely ignorant of the different circumstances in which they are used, what they are for, the benefits and drawbacks they both have etc.

There is no absolute "more useful" or "better" language. Language choice is entirely dependent on your own skills, as well as the requirements of your project and what you want to achieve. You can't, for example, go to a systems programmer who uses C and say "oh, you should be using JavaScript it is more current and useful". For one, you'd be laughed at. For two, you'd be wrong.

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