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So the 4790k is 4 cores 8 threads

How would this compare to a 5960x

With hyperthreading disabled (8cores)

I'm guessing the 8 real cores would be the a lot better but at the same clock speed how would they compare for rendering and gaming ???

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I say that roughly a  i7 4 core with HT would compare to an i7 5 core without HT.

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The 5960X would outpace the 4790K.

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I say that roughly a i7 4 core with HT would compare to an i7 5 core without HT.

So hyperthreading adds roughly 25 percent performance per core proving the application supports multi core use ?

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Because the 5960X has REAL cores, it would be better than just 8 threads via 4 cores

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So hyperthreading adds roughly 25 percent performance per core proving the application supports multi core use ?

I would say around that, but depends on the application.

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So hyperthreading adds roughly 25 percent performance per core proving the application supports multi core use ?

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It just adds more weaker threads

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It just adds more weaker threads

Yes, but he asks the performance of 8 threads compared to the i7 without HT, so with only 4 threads.

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Yes, but he asks the performance of 8 threads compared to the i7 without HT, so with only 4 threads.

no 8 thread vs 8 cores

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While people have given a simple and generalized answers, let me put in my 2 cents.

  • Hyper-threading is a method implemented in CPUs to improve their capability to multitask.
  • Physical cores are actual physical cores in the CPU.

If there are 8 tasks that need to be operated in parallel, in a very simple analogy:

  • Each core of an 8 core CPU might be able to operate each task in parallel.
  • With the 4 core CPU, the 8 tasks might be paired off, so that there are 2 tasks assigned to each physical core.  The hyper-threading implementation within the CPU will manage it so that it appears as if each core is able to operate the 2 tasks assigned to it in parallel due to the virtual cores.

So a 4 Core 8 thread CPU and a 8 core 8 thread CPU with the same clock speed, the 8 core CPU will have better performance.

  • For most games, the amount of cores matters less than the clock speeds.
  • For rendering, physical cores play a larger role than the virtual threads.  So 8 core 8 threads will outpace a 4 core 8 thread, and a 8 core 16 thread CPU may have slightly better performance than the 8 core 8 thread CPU.

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no 8 thread vs 8 cores

Yes, I know.. Damn I am sleepy, but then you asked how much does the HT influences "So hyperthreading adds roughly 25 percent performance per core proving the application supports multi core use "

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no 8 thread vs 8 cores

Technically, it's still 8 threads on both CPUs. It's just that on the 4790K, each core is executing two threads, creating a 1:2 ratio, while the 5960X is executing 8 threads on 8 cores(in this instance), creating a 1:1 ratio.

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So a 4 Core 8 thread CPU and a 8 core 8 thread CPU with the same clock speed, the 8 core CPU will have better performance.

Assuming the architectures are the same.

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Assuming the architectures are the same.

 

I assumed that would already be implicit.

 

Oh and of course the application/programs running would need to be designed in such a away to take advantage of multi-cores and multi-threads.  If they are not, the CPU will be underutilized.

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