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So I want to preface this by saying that I'm not extremely tech savvy but I want to build my first PC and am taking classes heading into a networking/IT field of work. To get ahead of the game I figured I'd build a PC get familiar with the windows OS and what not by having my own set up and be able to tinker and get to know everything first hand instead of just in class. Being able to game is a huge plus so why not kill two birds with one stone.

My budget is around 1200 for parts, OS and a mouse/keyboard. I already have a 55 inch LG 55LS4500 I want to use with HDMI. Less than 1200 is aways better but I am not one to skimp out if its important to have in the system.

I have a few questions as well if anyone could answer them. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to use my 55 inch and instead use a different monitor?

I would ideally prefer a 980ti in the build but is there a reason not to?

Also 32 or 16 GB of RAM, and preferably a skylake CPU but again please feel free to try to talk me ouf anything.

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$1,200 US?

 

TV's have higher input lag than monitors, your model is pretty good (35ms), but that is really large for PC use. 

 

8 16GB of RAM is more than enough for gaming,  More than 16 is typically for e-peen, VM, or software specific applications.

 

A 980 Ti on a $1200 1080p build is overkill.

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$1,200 US?

 

TV's have higher input lag than monitors, your model is pretty good (35ms), but that is really large for PC use. 

 

8GB of RAM is more than enough for gaming, 16+ is typically for e-peen, VM, or software specific applications.

 

A 980 Ti on a $1200 build is overkill.

 

 

id say 8gb is about the limit now, especially with high res gaming, 16gb is generally the norm. 

 

OP, what country are you in ? 

 

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id say 8gb is about the limit now, especially with high res gaming, 16gb is generally the norm. 

 

OP, what country are you in ? 

 

I personally haven't seen any affect on RAM usage on my system between 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p.

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 


Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.88 @ OutletPC) 



Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($649.99 @ B&H) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron) 


Total: $1205.31

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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i would like to put 16 gb of ram,but you can upgrade in the future, 8 gb is fine for now

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So I want to preface this by saying that I'm not extremely tech savvy but I want to build my first PC and am taking classes heading into a networking/IT field of work. To get ahead of the game I figured I'd build a PC get familiar with the windows OS and what not by having my own set up and be able to tinker and get to know everything first hand instead of just in class. Being able to game is a huge plus so why not kill two birds with one stone.

My budget is around 1200 for parts, OS and a mouse/keyboard. I already have a 55 inch LG 55LS4500 I want to use with HDMI. Less than 1200 is aways better but I am not one to skimp out if its important to have in the system.

I have a few questions as well if anyone could answer them. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to use my 55 inch and instead use a different monitor?

I would ideally prefer a 980ti in the build but is there a reason not to?

Also 32 or 16 GB of RAM, and preferably a skylake CPU but again please feel free to try to talk me ouf anything.

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/NBmzqs

 

This is without a keyboard/mouse.

PC Specs:

 
Core I5 4690K CPU
Gigabyte GTX 960 windforce 4GB GDDR5 GPU
Corsair 100R case
Seasonic 620W S12-II PSU
Kingston SSDNow 120GB SSD
Toshiba 1TB HDD
Asrock H97 Pro4 motherboard
8GB panram DDR3 1600 RAM
Windows 10 home 64 bit
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If you want to overclock

 
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($80.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron) 
Total: $1213.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I personally haven't seen any affect on RAM usage on my system between 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p.

 

 

Ok I have whilst playing GTAV at 4k, usage climbing up to 12GB and then getting low system memory crashes. Thats the reason I upgraded to 32GB 

 

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Ok I have whilst playing GTAV at 4k, usage climbing up to 12GB and then getting low system memory crashes. Thats the reason I upgraded to 32GB 

 

Ah, okay. I have never had my system use more than 7GB even with the little bit of 4K I play. Thanks for the information though, I will keep this in mind for future use.

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I'm in the US. Also why not DDR4? I see alot of people recommend DDR3 here why is that? I do agree that the 980 to might be overkill but I do want more longevity if possible. I am open to other suggestions/ buying a 1440p monitor in the future as well if that helps

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Toshiba 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($609.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Enermax Thorex ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.00 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 700W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.99 @ Directron)

Mouse: A4Tech D-500F Wired Optical Mouse ($8.79 @ Amazon)

Total: $1201.71

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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My rig:

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Celeronator (new main rig)

CPU: Intel Celeron (duh) N2840 2.16GHz Dual Core

RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz

HDD: Seagate 500GB

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 3000 Series

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CPU: Intel Atom N2600 1.6GHz Dual Core

RAM: 1GB DDR3-800

HDD: HGST 320GB

GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3600

 

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I'm in the US. Also why not DDR4? I see alot of people recommend DDR3 here why is that? I do agree that the 980 to might be overkill but I do want more longevity if possible. I am open to other suggestions/ buying a 1440p monitor in the future as well if that helps

 

Building a system that uses DDR3 is more cost effective. If you are looking toward 1440p then the 980 ti makes much more sense.

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do you want to overclock your cpu?

1200 in which currency?

what will you be using this pc for?

I will be using it mostly for gaming. I'm in the US so dollar's and I would rather not over clock but I would love to hear the pros/cons

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Building a system that uses DDR3 is more cost effective. If you are looking toward 1440p then the 980 ti makes much more sense.

Thanks for the reply that makes sense. I would ideally like to game on 1440p when I save up a bit more to buy a better monitor here in a month or two.

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Building a system that uses DDR3 is more cost effective. If you are looking toward 1440p then the 980 ti makes much more sense.

 

The cost of DDR3 and DDR4 are very similar. It isn't that much more expensive to build a Skylake system.

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The cost of DDR3 and DDR4 are very similar. It isn't that much more expensive to build a Skylake system.

 

It is if you are trying to fit a 980 Ti into a $1200 budget.

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It is if you are trying to fit a 980 Ti into a $1200 budget.

 

So Skylake is vastly more expensive ?  :rolleyes:

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So Skylake is vastly more expensive ?  :rolleyes:

 

~$100, when trying to stick to a $1200 budget that is quite a bit more. I personally would/could stretch the budget and go Skylake/DDR4 if I were doing a new build, but a build that uses DDR3 is still more cost effective.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($61.88 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.88 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ B&H)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Directron)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.82 @ Amazon)

Total: $1205.31

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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i would like to put 16 gb of ram,but you can upgrade in the future, 8 gb is fine for now

Why xeon and not i5?

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Why xeon and not i5?

The xeon has the performance of the i7 4790, but it does not have an integrated gpu. It performs better than the i5 

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~$100, when trying to stick to a $1200 budget that is quite a bit more. I personally would/could stretch the budget and go Skylake/DDR4 if I were doing a new build, but a build that uses DDR3 is still more cost effective.

Okay, so what would that look like if you stretched the budget a bit?

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Okay, so what would that look like if you stretched the budget a bit?

 

Including OS and going Skylake would be something like this:

 

 
Motherboard: MSI B150 PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($602.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Enermax Thorex ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.00 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($87.95 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($6.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1438.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Or this for an i5 - 
 
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($254.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B150 PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($602.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($87.95 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($6.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1388.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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~$100, when trying to stick to a $1200 budget that is quite a bit more. I personally would/could stretch the budget and go Skylake/DDR4 if I were doing a new build, but a build that uses DDR3 is still more cost effective.

 

Look at the price of the i5 4690K, 8GB DDR3 and the cheapest ATX Z97 board, and then compare it with the i5 6600K, 8GB DDR4 and the cheapest ATX Z170 board. The difference is about $38. 

 

I know there is no cooler with the i5 6600K but you would still need one to overclock. And don't forget you can overclock the non 'K' Skylake cpu's which would make it cheaper still.

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