Computer Keeps Crashing

[JakeMnz]

For the last six or seven months my computer has been crashing when I do certain tasks on it. Playing demanding videos games will cause the computer to just crash with no error message and it will sit on a black screen. Watching YouTube videos or Twitch for long periods of time will cause it to BSOD with the errors WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR or CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT. When my computer crashes from playing a video game, I can get on a less demanding game and have no issues. For example if my PC crashes while playing Warframe, I can easily reboot it and play CSGO with no problems. However if my computer crashes while watching Twitch and I get a BSOD, I can't watch Twitch or YouTube for a while or else it will BSOD again. I thought this was a GPU issue but other threads say that this issue is related to either the memory or the CPU and that I should run MemTest. When I ran it I didn't notice anything wrong with the RAM and it passed that super long test. Idk if this is a GPU, CPU or memory issue so posting here until I find out. I'll attach a picture of a WhoCrashed report because I can't upload dump files, please help.

[MageTank]

0x124 (WHEA UNCORRECTABLE) is more than likely your CPU. Clock Watchdog Timeout can be many things, but more than likely,CPU or memory. Are you overclocking by any chance?

[konteliss]

i think it isnt cpu nor gpu maybe it is your psu if you have not a enough good quality one

[JakeMnz]

0x124 (WHEA UNCORRECTABLE) is more than likely your CPU. Clock Watchdog Timeout can be many things, but more than likely,CPU or memory. Are you overclocking by any chance?

I've checked several times, nothing is overclocked so that's not it.

[MageTank]

I've checked several times, nothing is overclocked so that's not it.

I would still run a stress test and see if it can pass. You may need to feed it a little more vcore to keep it stable. 

[JakeMnz]

I would still run a stress test and see if it can pass. You may need to feed it a little more vcore to keep it stable. 

It passed MemTest and Passmark with no problems. I went to raise the vcore but for some reason no matter what I do the number won't save and it's stuck at 1.35v (Stock is supposed to be 1.375, I never changed it though.)

 

CPU is FX-8350 btw

[MageTank]

It passed MemTest and Passmark with no problems. I went to raise the vcore but for some reason no matter what I do the number won't save and it's stuck at 1.35v (Stock is supposed to be 1.375, I never changed it though.)

 

CPU is FX-8350 btw

What motherboard are you using? Some AM3 boards have bad voltage sagging, and can lead to exactly the problem you are having. The Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3's first revision comes to mind specifically when i think of this issue.

[JakeMnz]

What motherboard are you using? Some AM3 boards have bad voltage sagging, and can lead to exactly the problem you are having. The Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3's first revision comes to mind specifically when i think of this issue.

I'm kind of a noob when it comes down to CPU overclocking related things, so I have a question. If my vcore is set to 1.35v and CPU-Z shows it bouncing around 1.34x-1.38x, is that normal or should it always be 1.35v? My board is an ASUS m5a97 r2.0

[MageTank]

I'm kind of a noob when it comes down to CPU overclocking related things, so I have a question. If my vcore is set to 1.35v and CPU-Z shows it bouncing around 1.34x-1.38x, is that normal or should it always be 1.35v? My board is an ASUS m5a97 r2.0

Is it bouncing like that when you are doing nothing? Or when its under different kinds of load? It is normal for vcore to change depending on the different levels of load you throw at it. When idle, vcore can be lower than what you set it to, and a little higher if at full 100% load, depending on other motherboard voltage settings supplying additional offset voltage values. 

[JakeMnz]

Is it bouncing like that when you are doing nothing? Or when its under different kinds of load? It is normal for vcore to change depending on the different levels of load you throw at it. When idle, vcore can be lower than what you set it to, and a little higher if at full 100% load, depending on other motherboard voltage settings supplying additional offset voltage values. 

Yeah it's doing that when idle, but I guess that's normal. But when I game it doesn't change, it still bounces in that range.

[MageTank]

Yeah it's doing that when idle, but I guess that's normal. But when I game it doesn't change, it still bounces in that range.

I would try touching LLC (Load Line Calibration) settings and see if you can smooth it out. If that does not work, I would look into replacing the board. 

 

EDIT: It could also be the PSU, seeing as it only seems to happen when you ramp the system up with a demanding game. The Twitch/Youtube thing can be explained, since GPU acceleration can also crash the PSU. Maybe invest in a better PSU first, since it will probably be the cheaper option of the two. If that does not work, would look into buying a new board.

[JakeMnz]

I would try touching LLC (Load Line Calibration) settings and see if you can smooth it out. If that does not work, I would look into replacing the board. 

 

EDIT: It could also be the PSU, seeing as it only seems to happen when you ramp the system up with a demanding game. The Twitch/Youtube thing can be explained, since GPU acceleration can also crash the PSU. Maybe invest in a better PSU first, since it will probably be the cheaper option of the two. If that does not work, would look into buying a new board.

The only thing I can do with LLC is turn it off, on, or set it to auto. I've already tried all of those options and none worked. This is also the second PSU I've had in my system and I had these issues with both. First was Corsair CX600M and second is CX800M. I know neither are of great quality, but does the fact that it's happened with two make it seem more likely to be a board issue?

[JakeMnz]

I would try touching LLC (Load Line Calibration) settings and see if you can smooth it out. If that does not work, I would look into replacing the board. 

 

EDIT: It could also be the PSU, seeing as it only seems to happen when you ramp the system up with a demanding game. The Twitch/Youtube thing can be explained, since GPU acceleration can also crash the PSU. Maybe invest in a better PSU first, since it will probably be the cheaper option of the two. If that does not work, would look into buying a new board.

I just ran OCCT and found that my vcore dropped soon after I started the test. Does that help diagnose the issue?

[MageTank]

I just ran OCCT and found that my vcore dropped soon after I started the test. Does that help diagnose the issue?

 

Yeah, sagging somewhere. Either the PSU or board. Would do PSU first.

[JakeMnz]

Yeah, sagging somewhere. Either the PSU or board. Would do PSU first.

I went with a new mobo because that's what some friends suggested I do since the PSU is new and the problem was also around with the old PSU I had. Thanks for the help, I'll update when the mobo comes in. 

[JakeMnz]

Yeah, sagging somewhere. Either the PSU or board. Would do PSU first.

Just replaced the board yesterday. Got my vcore to 1.4v at 4.2 ghz. All was good until I played some H1Z1 and crashed again. When I ran OCCT it said there was an error in core #1 but won't say that again. Does that mean it's the CPU and not the board or PSU? Temps are stable btw.