Intel 6700K worth It?

[AsrielDreemurr]

So, let's talk about what this chip brings from the 4790k. Better benches. Better rendering times, better temps, smaller manufacturing process and more. But some people say that it falls behind in gaming. All the things I listed are things I do. So, coupled with a gtx 980 from msi (the twin frozr edition), is it a worthy upgrade from the 4790K? Especially the delta of $360/370? (*USD) Or am I better off waiting for Intel's next best thing? (lol i don't know, maybe like i9 or Intel 7th gen ;3;)

[Rune]

Get it from microcenter. Then it is worth it. The platform makes the difference.

[Morgan MLGman]

Nope, 4790k is a better bang for the buck, if you have more to spend get i7-5820k cause it costs around the same as 6700k and it's 30% faster.

[EmeraldKiwi]

It might be worth it starting from a scratch build, but not as an upgrade from a 4790k.

[ashypanda]

if you have DDR3 laying around get the 4790k if you don't have any memory laying around the 6700k.

[Guest]

4790k if you still have DDR3

Skylake if you feel like blowing 410+ dollars and some on RAM

5820k if you want an upgrade from the 4790k thats cheaper then skylake

[BrightCandle]

Haswell is obsolete, it might be cheaper that is to clear stock of what is an 2 year old CPU. Skylake has shown some fairly reasonable improvements in performance in games over Haswell, and while many might not consider its price premium worth it there is no doubt its faster.

[daniellearmouth]

So, let's talk about what this chip brings from the 4790k. Better benches. Better rendering times, better temps, smaller manufacturing process and more. But some people say that it falls behind in gaming. All the things I listed are things I do. So, coupled with a gtx 980 from msi (the twin frozr edition), is it a worthy upgrade from the 4790K? Especially the delta of $360/370? (*USD) Or am I better off waiting for Intel's next best thing? (lol i don't know, maybe like i9 or Intel 7th gen ;3;)

 

Is the 6700K a good option for brand new builds? Yes.

It has improved performance for each of its four cores, can run DDR4 RAM, the Z170 platform runs more PCIe lanes, and overall, the improved performance is - in my humble opinion - worth it.

 

However...

 

Is the 6700K a good option for people upgrading from the 4790K? No.

£300 is a lot, especially when you can get a 6-core processor from Intel on the same line-up.

Hell, I would say it's not really worth upgrading to it unless you are running a Nehalem-based CPU.

[MageTank]

Nope, 4790k is a better bang for the buck, if you have more to spend get i7-5820k cause it costs around the same as 6700k and it's 30% faster.

Please be sure to specify what it is 30% faster in. It is not 30% faster in gaming or general use. Such a number will only pop up in scenario's such as compression, rendering, and maybe the most extreme multi tasking. The average consumer will not even see a 5% difference between the two, and might even see a performance loss with the 5820k over the 6700k due to X99's terrible IMC. 

[AsrielDreemurr]

Please be sure to specify what it is 30% faster in. It is not 30% faster in gaming or general use. Such a number will only pop up in scenario's such as compression, rendering, and maybe the most extreme multi tasking. The average consumer will not even see a 5% difference between the two, and might even see a performance loss with the 5820k over the 6700k due to X99's terrible IMC. 

X99's imc is that bad? 

[MageTank]

X99's imc is that bad? 

Indeed. It has the benefit of Quad Channel, so its raw bandwidth will still be higher than Z170, but its IMC is so weak, people have trouble overclocking the memory, and its tertiary timings suffer greatly. If you were to run X99 in dual channel, and run Z170 in dual channel, and compare bandwidth and latency, Z170 mops the floor with it. Latency on X99 is just bad. 

[Morgan MLGman]

Please be sure to specify what it is 30% faster in. It is not 30% faster in gaming or general use. Such a number will only pop up in scenario's such as compression, rendering, and maybe the most extreme multi tasking. The average consumer will not even see a 5% difference between the two, and might even see a performance loss with the 5820k over the 6700k due to X99's terrible IMC. 

30% in raw power. It's just 30% faster across all cores.

[MageTank]

30% in raw power. It's just 30% faster across all cores.

I am gonna need a source, because I do not see that anywhere.

[Morgan MLGman]

I am gonna need a source, because I do not see that anywhere.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K/3502vs2579

29% OC multi core speed

[AsrielDreemurr]

I don't OC memory though.

[MageTank]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K/3502vs2579

29% OC multi core speed

Oh my... You are one of those people that believe float performance is a direct 100% translation of IRL performance? That might explain where this random number is coming from. You let me know when that "29% OC multi core speed" number translates into 29% more gaming performance, because load scaling is hardly ever linear.

[MageTank]

I don't OC memory though.

If you don't OC memory, avoid DDR4 period. Stock DDR4, or even XMP DDR4 is awful. It is still too new and unrefined to be considered worth using over DDR3. You really have to tweak DDR4 before it shines. 4790k would be a better choice over the 6700k considering all other factors. You already have it, DDR3 is already refined, so their XMP profiles are not as bad as DDR4's, and you won't notice a difference at all in gaming or general usage tasks.

[AsrielDreemurr]

If you don't OC memory, avoid DDR4 period. Stock DDR4, or even XMP DDR4 is awful. It is still too new and unrefined to be considered worth using over DDR3. You really have to tweak DDR4 before it shines. 4790k would be a better choice over the 6700k considering all other factors. You already have it, DDR3 is already refined, so their XMP profiles are not as bad as DDR4's, and you won't notice a difference at all in gaming or general usage tasks.

Thanks for the tip ;D

[MageTank]

Thanks for the tip ;D

Let me give you a comparison of my memory at stock vs highly refined tweaking.

 

Stock XMP of 2133 CL13-13-13-35-CR2:

 

Overclocked 3200mhz CL15-15-15-30-CR1

 

If you do not take the time to overclock, stock DDR4 XMP profiles can be much worse than stock XMP DDR3 profiles. Notice how huge that difference is between the two.

[AsrielDreemurr]

Oh my goodness. The difference is. Just. Bad. Thanks for the warning