Z97 or X99

[Moondrelor]

Z97 or X99

 

That's my question pretty much. 

Is the jump from a 4790k to a 5820k worth it?

 

Gaming wise.

 

Also account for the board features.

[Samppa221]

Gaming wise No. Rendering wise Yes.

[Litargirio]

Is the jump from a 4790k to a 5820k worth it?

 

Gaming wise.

 

No it makes absolutely no difference.

[ThinkWithPortals]

-snip-

What do you do? Gaming? No, keep the 4790K. Heavy rendering, 3D modelling, editing, etc.? Sure, get the 5820K, the extra two cores will help, or alternatively wait for Broadwell-E to come out.

[Moondrelor]

What about motherboard functionality? 

[KemoKa]

No difference that you'll ever notice. Z97 is fine.

[Moondrelor]

What do you do? Gaming? No, keep the 4790K. Heavy rendering, 3D modelling, editing, etc.? Sure, get the 5820K, the extra two cores will help, or alternatively wait for Broadwell-E to come out.

 

Broadwell-E? Something I'm going to have to research or perhaps you can give me some pro's on what it's intended for?

[Samppa221]

What about motherboard functionality? 

Generally nothing else than more PCI-E lanes on the X99 side so better SLI'ing 

[KemoKa]

What about motherboard functionality? 

You get more 12 more PCIe lanes on the CPU. That's about it. If that's what you need, then great.

[ShadowCaptain]

for gaming its utterly pointless

[ThinkWithPortals]

Broadwell-E? Something I'm going to have to research or perhaps you can give me some pro's on what it's intended for?

Basically the successor to Haswell-E.

[Moondrelor]

Generally nothing else than more PCI-E lanes on the X99 side so better SLI'ing 

 

You get more 12 more PCIe lanes on the CPU. That's about it. If that's what you need, then great.

 

Yeah, maybe I should of included that. I do plan on using a m.2 which will be 4 lanes and future sli.

Would 2 GPU's and a M.2 be worth going to X99 platform? 

[Moondrelor]

Basically the successor to Haswell-E.

 

Coming with Pascal?

[KemoKa]

Yeah, maybe I should of included that. I do plan on using a m.2 which will be 4 lanes and future sli.

Would 2 GPU's and a M.2 be worth going to X99 platform? 

Yep. Because otherwise your GPUs will be 8x 4x with a 4x reserved for M.2.

Skylake would be better for consumer M.2 connectivity because it has DMI 3.0. But if you want raw lanes, X99 is where it's at.

[ThinkWithPortals]

Coming with Pascal?

Some time in 2016. Two six cores (3.4GHz 6800K and 3.6GHz 6850K) an eight core (3.3GHz 6900K) and a ten core (3.0GHz 6950X) all with hyperthreading.

[Elehat]

If you only want 4 more lanes then going z170 with an i7-6700k could be a good option; you get 16+4 lanes, 4 from the chipset to use with an M.2, then you can run the 2 cards in x8/x8. Including mobo cost, It'll be a decent amount cheaper than x99, and will be better if all you want to do is game. 

[Moondrelor]

If you only want 4 more lanes then going z170 with an i7-6700k could be a good option; you get 16+4 lanes, 4 from the chipset to use with an M.2, then you can run the 2 cards in x8/x8. Including mobo cost, It'll be a decent amount cheaper than x99, and will be better if all you want to do is game. 

 

I thought the 6700k has 16 lanes?

[KemoKa]

I thought the 6700k has 16 lanes?

It does, but the DMI has been updated from the Bridges and Wells to DMI 3.0. Now you get an additional 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes wired to the PCH for peripherals.

[Moondrelor]

Oh I see. Hmm, so if I did a Z170 build I could be x8/x8 for my gpu's and x4 for my m.2

Is there any setup required for me to do?

How could I tell if I was at x8/x8 for my gpu's?

[CalebTheEternal]

It's not worth it for gaming. It might last a little longer in your pc than the 4790K. I only did my upgrade because it was all on sale and it was basically a free upgrade. If it was a free upgrade I would say go for the 2 extra cores. Or if you only need to spend $100. If not then don't go for it in my mind.

[Moondrelor]

It does, but the DMI has been updated from the Bridges and Wells to DMI 3.0. Now you get an additional 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes wired to the PCH for peripherals.

 

Does it require any form of setup? Or just build straight out the box bam, 20 lanes?

[KemoKa]

Does it require any form of setup? Or just build straight out the box bam, 20 lanes?

pretty much just plug and play.

[Lays]

It does, but the DMI has been updated from the Bridges and Wells to DMI 3.0. Now you get an additional 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes wired to the PCH for peripherals.

 

 

No, it has 16 lanes on the CPU, and 20 on the chipset. 

 

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/462341-skylake-haswell-e-pcie-lane-misconception/page-1

[KemoKa]

No, it has 16 lanes on the CPU, and 20 on the chipset. 

 

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/462341-skylake-haswell-e-pcie-lane-misconception/page-1

I was led to believe that the DMI ran on 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes and that's what you hooked peripherals up to.

[Lays]

I was led to believe that the DMI ran on 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes and that's what you hooked peripherals up to.

 

According to anandtech, the 4 lane DMI is only the link between the CPU & PCH/Chipset.  The Z170 chipset itself has 20 lanes.