no post after 2 RMAs

[flaer222]

ok so I'm 17 I don't know a whole lot about trouble shooting. On Amazon day(yeah remember that) I bought all the necessary parts to build a computer. I bought:

a MSI 970 ATX motherboard

A MSI R9 380 2G (i know its meh)

A refurbished EVGA 430W 80+ power supply (Yes i know its the wrong area to skimp out on but it has a 3 year warranty )

a FX-6300

16GB of corsair vengeance 1600 mhz DDR3 RAM

a kingston 120GB SSD

a 500GB samsung HDD

a 120mm aio coolermaster water cooler

and a bunch of fans

when it all arrived i built the system in the case without testing it for a post. then it didn't post. so eventually i sent back the motherboard to newegg and waited for the new one to arrive and they sent back the old board saying i forgot the sata cables and the back plate. so I put it all back in the box and sent it again and then when the new mother board came in i built the system on the mother board box with the stock cooler and still no post i then went to my high schools  A+ room and grabbed an old ATI graphics card and went home. with the "new" card i built the system again and a post finally so i sent back the graphics card this time with MSI's RMA team and waited for the card. when it came in the mail (today) I built the system outside the case again just see if it would post before i built the system outright..... no post...The CPU heat sink is warm to lukewarm to the touch while the graphics card and ram are not and i have run the system in single channel ram mode with both sticks separately and still no post i'm using a DVI out put to my monitor witch is a 1080p DVI or VGA input only monitor from acer it has worked with both inputs before this and i'm typing this on the monitor with a VGA connection off my lap top please help me and if you live in the dame county area i would love to meet if you think you have something physical that could help me. please man i just wanna play some games

[Mew]

The power supply isn't supplying enough power to your system. You need around 500W or more.

[Tedster]

Welcome to the Forum. Age has little relevance with things in the technology world as long as you're mature and have the knowledge - I'm 15.

 

Are you making sure that all power connectors are fine?

I'm not sure that the PSU could really handle an R9 380...

[flaer222]

all my connections are good and the CPU fan and case fans spin and the cards accent lights up along with the mother board lights

[KB_TheDireWolf]

Hey am 17 too!

I dare say that its your PSU thats failing you, that PSU is to low of a wattage, im building a FX-6300 and R9 380 system right now and PC part picker said it needed 400w and it is recommended to have 100w high then what is needed. Also its refurbished.....

Buy a SeaSonic 12II 520W 80 Plus Bronze. You will be happy that you did.

[don_svetlio]

The power supply isn't supplying enough power to your system. You need around 500W or more.

 

I dare say that its your PSU thats failing you, that PSU is to low of a wattage, im build a FX-6300 and R9 380 system right now and PC part picker said it needed 400w and it is recommended to have 100w high then what is needed. Also its refurbished.....

Buy a SeaSonic 12II 520W 80 Plus Bronze. You will be happy that you did.

 

all my connections are good and the CPU fan and case fans spin and the cards accent lights up along with the mother board lights

 

Welcome to the Forum. Age has little relevance with things in the technology world as long as you're mature and have the knowledge - I'm 15.

 

Are you making sure that all power connectors are fine?

I'm not sure that the PSU could really handle an R9 380...

I want to correct you all a bit - while 430W is plenty for a 380 and FX 6300, the EVGA W1 are terrible quality and considering it's a refurb, meaning it has been broken and repaired, it's likely a faulty PSU.

[KB_TheDireWolf]

I want to correct you all a bit - while 430W is plenty for a 380 and FX 6300, the EVGA W1 are terrible quality and considering it's a refurb, meaning it has been broken and repaired, it's likely a faulty PSU.

Ya 430w is enough, however its good to have overhead.

Again he should get the PSU I suggest, 9.7 on Johnnyguru.com and had not cons in his summery.

[don_svetlio]

Ya 430w is enough, however its good to have overhead.

Again he should get the PSU I suggest, 9.7 on Johnnyguru.com and had not cons in his summery.

the final rating in his reviews is not the thing you should be looking at - look at what the review says, the numbers and components as well as board design/build quality/soldering

A 380 pulls around 190W, a FX 6300 pulls around 125W - he has about 100W of overhead with a 430W PSU but the W1 are abysmal. A SeaSonic 430 Eco would be having a breeze powering this build - hell - even a 350W one from them might do the job. 380 is not remotely power hungry - it's the same draw as a 960.

[flaer222]

i'm thinking of heading out for best buy and buying a new PSU soon i just need to check my bank account 

[Mew]

the final rating in his reviews is not the thing you should be looking at - look at what the review says, the numbers and components as well as board design/build quality/soldering

A 380 pulls around 190W, a FX 6300 pulls around 125W - he has about 100W of overhead with a 430W PSU but the W1 are abysmal. A SeaSonic 430 Eco would be having a breeze powering this build - hell - even a 350W one from them might do the job. 380 is not remotely power hungry - it's the same draw as a 960.

 

His 380 might be an overclocked model which in turn would draw more power. Another thing is that everything else in his system draws power. And I'm pretty sure his psu doesn't output all 430w to the 12v. Without looking it up, I would assume it's a max of 400w if not less on the 12v.

[Mew]

i'm thinking of heading out for best buy and buying a new PSU soon i just need to check my bank account 

 

Don't buy it from best buy. It's best to look online and compare prices to see which place has a decent psu at a great value.

[don_svetlio]

His 380 might be an overclocked model which in turn would draw more power. Another thing is that everything else in his system draws power. And I'm pretty sure his psu doesn't output all 430w to the 12v. Without looking it up, I would assume it's a max of 400w if not less on the 12v.

A 380 OC, or no OC from the factory - power target is the same unless the vendor has changed it and that is usually disclosed somewhere - it would be his fault for not reading.

The rest of the system gets a generous and I mean generous 150W - that still puts him at about 350W max - not remotely close to 430W or even 400W.

[don_svetlio]

i'm thinking of heading out for best buy and buying a new PSU soon i just need to check my bank account 

Order online - I'd suggest the Antec High Current Gamer 520M or EVGA GS 550W

[KB_TheDireWolf]

the final rating in his reviews is not the thing you should be looking at - look at what the review says, the numbers and components as well as board design/build quality/soldering

A 380 pulls around 190W, a FX 6300 pulls around 125W - he has about 100W of overhead with a 430W PSU but the W1 are abysmal. A SeaSonic 430 Eco would be having a breeze powering this build - hell - even a 350W one from them might do the job. 380 is not remotely power hungry - it's the same draw as a 960.

Anyway, 12II has 10 bad eggs for mostly DOA's out of 100 reviews on Newegg.

[don_svetlio]

Anyway, 12II has 10 bad eggs for mostly DOA's out of 100 reviews on Newegg.

S12II? That's the lower end SeaSonic - it's group-regulated - some DoAs happen - S12G and above is where the party's at

[0x1e]

A 380 OC, or no OC from the factory - power target is the same unless the vendor has changed it and that is usually disclosed somewhere - it would be his fault for not reading.

The rest of the system gets a generous and I mean generous 150W - that still puts him at about 350W max - not remotely close to 430W or even 400W.

If I were to buy another power supply then I would get 100% more then what I need.

So My system draws around 380 watts, 450 when overclocked. So I would buy at least 800-900 watts.

Just for efficiency, upgradeability, piece of mind and longevity. 

[don_svetlio]

If I were to buy another power supply then I would get 100% more then what I need.

So My system draws around 380 watts, 450 when overclocked. So I would buy at least 800-900 watts.

Just for efficiency, upgradeability, piece of mind and longevity. 

That is beyond overkill - you can run 3x 380s on a 800W PSU

[0x1e]

That is beyond overkill - you can run 3x 380s on a 800W PSU

I have bought three PSUs in my computer life.

600 watts (many moons ago) that blew from me asking too much.

1050 watts which now runs a system that uses around 200 watts after leaving mine. I've had that PSU for around 6 years and will most likely have it for 6 more.

860i which I've had for around 1-2 years which I intend to keep for another 20-50 years.

 

So it's an investment! 

[don_svetlio]

I have bought three PSUs in my computer life.

600 watts (many moons ago) that blew from me asking too much.

1050 watts which now runs a system that uses around 200 watts after leaving mine. I've had that PSU for around 6 years and will most likely have it for 6 more.

860i which I've had for around 1-2 years which I intend to keep for another 20-50 years.

 

So it's an investment! 

True enough - but the rate at which quality capacitors degrade is slower than that at which our bodies degrade - you'll die of old age sooner than a good quality PSU's wattage degrades that much

[Benji_w]

ok so I'm 17 I don't know a whole lot about trouble shooting. On Amazon day(yeah remember that) I bought all the necessary parts to build a computer. I bought:

a MSI 970 ATX motherboard

A MSI R9 380 2G (i know its meh)

A refurbished EVGA 430W 80+ power supply (Yes i know its the wrong area to skimp out on but it has a 3 year warranty )

a FX-6300

16GB of corsair vengeance 1600 mhz DDR3 RAM

a kingston 120GB SSD

a 500GB samsung HDD

a 120mm aio coolermaster water cooler

and a bunch of fans

when it all arrived i built the system in the case without testing it for a post. then it didn't post. so eventually i sent back the motherboard to newegg and waited for the new one to arrive and they sent back the old board saying i forgot the sata cables and the back plate. so I put it all back in the box and sent it again and then when the new mother board came in i built the system on the mother board box with the stock cooler and still no post i then went to my high schools  A+ room and grabbed an old ATI graphics card and went home. with the "new" card i built the system again and a post finally so i sent back the graphics card this time with MSI's RMA team and waited for the card. when it came in the mail (today) I built the system outside the case again just see if it would post before i built the system outright..... no post...The CPU heat sink is warm to lukewarm to the touch while the graphics card and ram are not and i have run the system in single channel ram mode with both sticks separately and still no post i'm using a DVI out put to my monitor witch is a 1080p DVI or VGA input only monitor from acer it has worked with both inputs before this and i'm typing this on the monitor with a VGA connection off my lap top please help me and if you live in the dame county area i would love to meet if you think you have something physical that could help me. please man i just wanna play some games

 

 

The power supply isn't supplying enough power to your system. You need around 500W or more.

 

This, very much this. 

[flaer222]

Update i just went to a local store and bought a Thermaltake smart series 650W 80+Bronze PSU I'm about to remove the old one

[flaer222]

last update PROBLEM SOLVED I HAS A POST  WHEEEEW thank you to everybody that helped me with the problem you where all really helpful

[KB_TheDireWolf]

S12II? That's the lower end SeaSonic - it's group-regulated - some DoAs happen - S12G and above is where the party's at

Well am in Canada, so everything cost more money...

My build am doing ATM

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($137.89 @ Vuugo)

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($130.72 @ Newegg Canada)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.11 @ NCIX)

Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($46.84 @ DirectCanada)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.24 @ Vuugo)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($283.47 @ NCIX)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.72 @ DirectCanada)

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($128.10 @ shopRBC)

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($41.96 @ NCIX)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($12.30 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $1071.33

That is with 5% GST btw....

Can$ is f'ing crap...

[KB_TheDireWolf]

last update PROBLEM SOLVED I HAS A POST WHEEEEW thank you to everybody that helped me with the problem you where all really helpful

Hey show pictures!!!, Will be trying to boot my system in a little bit. Will show it off.

[flaer222]

ok i tried but my phone won't let me use flash cause its battery is low and it looks like crap without it and tomorrow my leds will come in. on saterday i'll have awesome pics with my whole setup just wait and i can't wait for the picks of your setup