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I actually think I fixed it.

 

https://bluebluewave.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/memory-leak-in-windows-8-1-with-killer-e2200-and-windows-network-data-usage-monitoring/

 

Found this on a tom's hardware thread where someone was having the same issues as me.

 

I have a killer e2200 and the same drivers, I bet this is the cause!!!!

I have done the fix, if it happens again then I know it's not that.  For now I will mark solved!

I've had a random memory leak for awhile now, I have no idea what program is causing it, or what.

I can restart my PC and it goes away, but comes back slowly overtime.

 

Hopefully someone can help me out.

 

 

System specs:

 

Windows 8.1 64 bit

i7 4770k

Z97 SOC Force

G.Skill TridentX 2 x 4GB 2400 CAS 9

840 pro 256 GB

MX100 256GB 

2TB Seagate barracuda

 

 

 

Just everyday use causes it, nothing in particular, I've even tried not using some of the programs to see if it fixes it, but sooner or later my memory gets topped out, even when I close everything, then I end up having big performance dips and stutters/ general lag.   Only solution is to restart, then a couple hours later it'll do it again.

 

 

I'll do a malwarebytes scan and some other shit, but I doubt I have any viruses, I'm extremely cautious of what I download.

 

 

 

 

List of programs I use on a regular basis:

 

 

Spotify / Chrome / Steam / Telegram desktop / Spotify / Origin / League of Legends / Gigabyte App center & System Information viewer

 

My chrome has about 5 plugins as well.

 

 

 

Games I play on a regular basis:

 

h1z1, BF4, battlefront beta, LoL

 

 

 

What I don't understand, is when I look in my task manager at memory use, it doesn't add up to anywhere near 90-100% of my memory like it tells me it's using.

 

Right now I'm literally doing nothing but talking to friends on Telegram Desktop & listening to music on Spotify while I type this thread on Chrome.

 

 

It tells me I'm using 7.5 out of 7.9 GB right now, yet the biggest use of memory is 120mb on that first chrome tab..? Makes no sense..

 

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Should check and see how much it says "system" is using.

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you can try reinstalling programs one by one to see if it fixes it, start with your most used programs 

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Should check and see how much it says "system" is using.

 

 

The programs in the picture are sorted by memory use, system is using 0.2 MB

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I've had a random memory leak for awhile now, I have no idea what program is causing it, or what.

I can restart my PC and it goes away, but comes back slowly overtime.

 

Hopefully someone can help me out.

 

 

System specs:

 

Windows 8.1 64 bit

i7 4770k

Z97 SOC Force

G.Skill TridentX 2 x 4GB 2400 CAS 9

840 pro 256 GB

MX100 256GB 

2TB Seagate barracuda

 

 

 

Just everyday use causes it, nothing in particular, I've even tried not using some of the programs to see if it fixes it, but sooner or later my memory gets topped out, even when I close everything, then I end up having big performance dips and stutters/ general lag.   Only solution is to restart, then a couple hours later it'll do it again.

 

 

I'll do a malwarebytes scan and some other shit, but I doubt I have any viruses, I'm extremely cautious of what I download.

 

 

 

 

List of programs I use on a regular basis:

 

 

Spotify / Chrome / Steam / Telegram desktop / Spotify / Origin / League of Legends / Gigabyte App center & System Information viewer

 

My chrome has about 5 plugins as well.

 

 

 

Games I play on a regular basis:

 

h1z1, BF4, battlefront beta, LoL

 

 

 

What I don't understand, is when I look in my task manager at memory use, it doesn't add up to anywhere near 90-100% of my memory like it tells me it's using.

 

Right now I'm literally doing nothing but talking to friends on Telegram Desktop & listening to music on Spotify while I type this thread on Chrome.

 

 

It tells me I'm using 7.5 out of 7.9 GB right now, yet the biggest use of memory is 120mb on that first chrome tab..? Makes no sense..

 

 

Scan For viruses. That's the only possible thing.

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Scan For viruses. That's the only possible thing.

That's not the only possible thing..... It could be drivers, programs, many things.

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Scan For viruses. That's the only possible thing.

 

Malwarebytes came back completely clean, and I'm EXTREMELY cautious with what I download.

 

I have almost zero programs on my PC that aren't from steam / origin / spotify / skype and trusted things.  If I ever have to download something from a third party website, it gets double checked before anything else happens. 

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This isn't a memory leak IMO just normal windows behaviour where it just put stuff in the RAM for use later on. If this happens when your system is freshly booted and not used then after say an hour you get the same issue then ok i would agree. My Chrome carries my normal RAM usage from 2.8gb to 4.4gb, i have about 3-5 plugins and 6 apps attached.

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This isn't a memory leak IMO just normal windows behaviour where it just put stuff in the RAM for use later on. If this happens when your system is freshly booted and not used then after say an hour you get the same issue then ok i would agree. My Chrome carries my normal RAM usage from 2.8gb to 4.4gb, i have about 3-5 plugins and 6 apps attached.

 

 

It shouldn't be causing lag and near lockups to my PC though..

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It shouldn't be causing lag and near lockups to my PC though..

How often does that happen? Could be bad memory. 

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How often does that happen? Could be bad memory. 

 

 

Only happens when RAM usage is through the roof due to whatever is using all of the RAM.

 

Rest of the time it's perfectly fine, benchmark scores are all normal, even really intensive memory benchmarks that last quite a long time run fine.

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Well you could first try Driver Verifier, here's instructions via Microsoft.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff545448(v=vs.85).aspx#where_can_i_download_driver_verifier_

If that doesn't work you should check RamMap and take a screenshot of the graph.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff700229.aspx

A lot of my friends had this issue and it's not bad ram or anything, I have 16gbs and it said I was using 15.5gb on idle of ram and only a restart would fix it, if not I couldn't do anything.

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Only happens when RAM usage is through the roof due to whatever is using all of the RAM.

 

Rest of the time it's perfectly fine, benchmark scores are all normal, even really intensive memory benchmarks that last quite a long time run fine.

Memtest?

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This isn't a memory leak IMO just normal windows behaviour where it just put stuff in the RAM for use later on. If this happens when your system is freshly booted and not used then after say an hour you get the same issue then ok i would agree. My Chrome carries my normal RAM usage from 2.8gb to 4.4gb, i have about 3-5 plugins and 6 apps attached.

You do know how ram works right.... Ram doesn't "put stuff in the RAM for later use" hence the name random access memory. If that's the case and nothing's changed and your ram usage slowly increases that's a memory leak.

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Well you could first try Driver Verifier, here's instructions via Microsoft.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff545448(v=vs.85).aspx#where_can_i_download_driver_verifier_

If that doesn't work you should check RamMap and take a screenshot of the graph.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff700229.aspx

A lot of my friends had this issue and it's not bad ram or anything, I have 16gbs and it said I was using 15.5gb on idle of ram and only a restart would fix it, if not I couldn't do anything.

 

 

I restarted, bam back to 10-20% usage..

 

In a few hours when it's back to like 90%, I will use that RAM MAP thing and take a screenshot for ya.

 

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I restarted, bam back to 10-20% usage..

In a few hours when it's back to like 90%, I will use that RAM MAP thing and take a screenshot for ya.

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Should probably check your drivers first, with Microsofts built in Driver Verifier.

If your system starts to get boggled down by the ram again you can attempt to find the specific program, here's step by step instructions if you decide to try out RamMap.

Launch RAMMap and it displays your RAM details in a tabbed interface. There’s a lot of jargon here, but a good place to start is by looking at the "Active" column, which details memory which is currently in use, then scanning down the list of categories to see which is consuming the most.

If the "Process Private" figure is top of the "Active" list, for instance, then this means most of your system’s RAM consumption is due to memory allocated by a single process. Click the Processes tab, then the Private column header to spot the most resource-hungry programs.

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Try use RAMMAP or ProcessHacker 2 or Process Explorer.

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Should probably check your drivers first, with Microsofts built in Driver Verifier.

If your system starts to get boggled down by the ram again you can attempt to find the specific program, here's step by step instructions if you decide to try out RamMap.

Launch RAMMap and it displays your RAM details in a tabbed interface. There’s a lot of jargon here, but a good place to start is by looking at the "Active" column, which details memory which is currently in use, then scanning down the list of categories to see which is consuming the most.

If the "Process Private" figure is top of the "Active" list, for instance, then this means most of your system’s RAM consumption is due to memory allocated by a single process. Click the Processes tab, then the Private column header to spot the most resource-hungry programs.

 

 

System is basically grinding to a hault, all I have open is 2 chrome windows, one with netflix and one with this page.  It's taking really long to open and load things, lags pretty bad too.  Also disk usage is super high, it's spiking all over the place yet I'm not writing/reading from the drives I don't understand why?

 

What exactly is "non paged pool"?

 

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@Fluffinator 

 

 

I restarted and now it looks like this and it's performing like normal, snappy and fast:

 

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I actually think I fixed it.

 

https://bluebluewave.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/memory-leak-in-windows-8-1-with-killer-e2200-and-windows-network-data-usage-monitoring/

 

Found this on a tom's hardware thread where someone was having the same issues as me.

 

I have a killer e2200 and the same drivers, I bet this is the cause!!!!

I have done the fix, if it happens again then I know it's not that.  For now I will mark solved!

Stuff:  i7 7700k @ (dat nibba succ) | ASRock Z170M OC Formula | G.Skill TridentZ 3600 c16 | EKWB 1080 @ 2100 mhz  |  Acer X34 Predator | R4 | EVGA 1000 P2 | 1080mm Radiator Custom Loop | HD800 + Audio-GD NFB-11 | 850 Evo 1TB | 840 Pro 256GB | 3TB WD Blue | 2TB Barracuda

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FireStrike 980 ti @ 1800 Mhz http://hwbot.org/submission/3183338 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11574089

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