Boot times offset by controllers?

[PrimeSonic]

So I'm planning on building my new Z170 PC with:

An Intel 750 pcie ssd,

a couple of sata ssds, maybe in raid 0,

a spinning disk drive for backups.

I've read that nvme and raid 0 can increase boot times to the point of almost off setting the speed gain of the ssd.

Am I going to take that big a hit?

I've seen Windows 8 boot up in 12 seconds on an HP laptop with a hdd. I'd like to match that with this setup.

Any insights or things I should keep in mind as I prepare for this rig?

[Altecice]

Anything you add 'in the way' of booting will increase boot time. When you use your motherboard RAID controller it will need time during boot to initialize the disks that are part of the RAID. It does not take very long at all.... tbh though you only boot once a day so who cares?

[MegaDave91]

Surely you're using a 750 with greater intentions than improving boot time?

[PrimeSonic]

Surely you're using a 750 with greater intentions than improving boot time?

Yeah. To never see another loading screen ever again.

That, and bragging rights.

[PrimeSonic]

Anything you add 'in the way' of booting will increase boot time. When you use your motherboard RAID controller it will need time during boot to initialize the disks that are part of the RAID. It does not take very long at all.... tbh though you only boot once a day so who cares?

Fair enough. But now with that in mind, I'm wondering if I really should raid 0 the sata ssds or not.

[Altecice]

Fair enough. But now with that in mind, I'm wondering if I really should raid 0 the sata ssds or not.

 

I have RAID 0 SSD's the only reason I have that set up is so I can present it as a single disk to Windows instead of two disks. The performance increase is great in benchmarks but MEH irl tbh.... same with any RAID. My computer still boots in under 5 seconds.

[PrimeSonic]

I have RAID 0 SSD's the only reason I have that set up is so I can present it as a single disk to Windows instead of two disks. The performance increase is great in benchmarks but MEH irl tbh.... same with any RAID. My computer still boots in under 5 seconds.

That's what I was hoping to hear.

I'll likely be doing the same thing.

And the nvme drive will be there for absurd performance on key applications and games.

[AfonsoJR]

I cry :c I want a 750 too

[Blake]

So I'm planning on building my new Z170 PC with:

An Intel 750 pcie ssd,

a couple of sata ssds, maybe in raid 0,

a spinning disk drive for backups.

I've read that nvme and raid 0 can increase boot times to the point of almost off setting the speed gain of the ssd.

Am I going to take that big a hit?

I've seen Windows 8 boot up in 12 seconds on an HP laptop with a hdd. I'd like to match that with this setup.

Any insights or things I should keep in mind as I prepare for this rig?

Computers have 2 stages (more if you want to be anal about it).

1. BIOS/UFEI - POSTS the system then initialise all addon cards, NICs etc., then presents it to the OS

2. OS. Loads into the boot loader and then does its thing, generally different depending on which os is loading.

 

main thing to speed up 1? make sure your bios is running in UEFI mode, and all your addon cards support UEFI mode. BIOS systems load these devices sequentially, UEFI load them in parallel.

 

and for 2, you can change the media the os is loading from, or change the OS. windows 10 loads quicker then 8.1 which is quicker then 8, which is quicker then 7, which is quicker then vista, etc, etc. then there is linux, which is as quick as you configured it to be.