Problems activating Windows 10? /Help

[DEDRICK]

I dont get it thinking about a clean reinstall later, if everybody has the same key to enter...

 

I missed something I guess

 

You don't need a key to reinstall if you have already upgraded and activated on that PC

[spyder]

I dont get it thinking about a clean reinstall later, if everybody has the same key to enter...

 

I missed something I guess

Windows now verifies via hardware ID over entering a key. 

[Maldorhan]

You don't need a key to reinstall if you have already upgraded and activated on that PC

 

I know mate, that is not what I meant.

 

I was talking about, lets say, your SSD or HDD whatever, crash in a few months, for exemple, and you have to reinstall W10 from scratch. (MS said it was doable from scratch after the first mandatory upgrade).

 

The USB / DVD install will prompt you asking for a key, as before, but this time, which one do you use ? Since the W7 / W8 keys arent valid (I've tried), and the update process turns your W7 / W8 key into a new generic one (identical for everyone).

 

So how will it work ? What key do you use when you reinstall from scratch ?

[Maldorhan]

Windows now verifies via hardware ID over entering a key. 

Oh ok. Simple as that. Until now, when your hardware changed, you had to call the bot support and give your identification key (very long list of numbers), I imagine that now, it wont be linked to a visible key... 

 

That's still very blurry... this new generic key, to me at least

[spyder]

Oh ok. Simple as that. Until now, when your hardware changed, you had to call the bot support and give your identification key (very long list of numbers), I imagine that now, it wont be linked to a visible key... 

 

That's still very blurry... this new generic key, to me at least

When your hardware changes then your kind of in a sticky situation, most probably have to explain to MS support. 

[Maldorhan]

When your hardware changes then your kind of in a sticky situation, most probably have to explain to MS support.

Actually to make it short, I wonder how they know now which CD key we have, if we have all the same then it would be just common to all of the upgraders, and the standalone keys you buy 100-300 bucks will keep being unique as before,

but then they have to identify us in a way or another, else everybody could use this generic key, except if, with the upgrade, they bind our machine ID with the generic key, to flag it as legit,

but then again, if we change let's say a CPU, the machine ID change, so how do they identify us when calling the support center, maybe the long number we gave before and still do (displayed by the command slic 4 I think) will become the new key.

But the stored key in the modern BIOS is still the CD key...

Maybe it's time for me to get some sleep I'm totally lost with all this mess

[Clemens123]

I had activating issues too, but the keep trying tip helped (i don't think you have to click like mad, just keep trying, maybe the issue is now gone i don't know)

I used my USB Stick to upgrade (created with media creation tool), and runned the setup.exe while running win7 (on that way i only have to download it twice for my seven pc's (home and pro))(i did not reserve anywhere)(and i have boot medium for clean install as well!).

 

What negatively suprised me...two control panels, why MS?

What positively suprised me: updates can also with the home edition be shared in the local network.

 

Only thing that don't work is logitech gaming software 5.10 for my driving force gt...but I hope logitech will fix the setup of that, it is just the OS check that fails.

Unfortunately, the current version of logitech gaming software (which works on win10) does not include the wheel drivers...

[Maldorhan]

I understand better how it works now, the first time you have to do it on your existing activated W7 or W8 to let it bind your machine ID with the new W10 generic key for upgraders because it has to check if your W7/8  key is valid.

 

As soon as your ID is flagged as OK, you can install from scratch with the generic key as long as you dont change your main computer parts (mobo or cpu).

 

On a side note, W7 loaders, (loaders are bad, you have to buy an official licence), seems to activate perfectly well on 10, and they dont need loaders anymore since they bind your machine ID with the generic key, seeing W7 is activated with a apparently OK key (the old W7 manufacturers key trick). Just works on W7, not 8. 

 

I have, and same at my work place, (IT department), all original keys obviously. And yesterday we couldnt activate it as said before, smashing the activate helped yesterday, today when I arrived at work, everything was already activated by itself.

 

So it was just the MS activation servers fault yesterday.