Are SSHD's worth it?

[PierreCCesario]

I'm trying to get a fast hard drive but ssd's are just out of my budget. Unless 7200RPM hdd's are good in doing daily tasks(such as opening programs at a quick speed and loading maps in games)are SSHD's worth it? I'm worried that a 7200RPM hdd isn't fast because my crappy laptop has a 5400rpm hdd(or is just the crappy cpu that's making it slow?).

 

Hope you understand what I mean.

[You_are_a_cunt]

no

[FunkyFeatures]

A SSHD will only speed up frequently used programs such as Windows, autostart programs and such. That is how the 8GB of SSD space is being used. 

A 7200 RPM drive will be plenty fast, much faster than most laptop drives. I have a WD red 2TB hard drive, and I find it to be fast enough for most use, but prefer having an SSD for windows.

[Oshino Shinobu]

SSHDs use a small amount of Solid State storage to cache the HDD. So frequently used programs will load up faster. After the cache has been filled, it's pretty much just a plain HDD. 

 

Whether it's worth it or not will depend on the cost. If it's only a small amount more than a normal HDD, then sure, but if there's a larger gap in price, then you would be better off buying a 32GB SSD to cache a normal hard drive. 

[rafazafar]

I'm trying to get a fast hard drive but ssd's are just out of my budget. Unless 7200RPM hdd's are good in doing daily tasks(such as opening programs at a quick speed and loading maps in games)are SSHD's worth it? I'm worried that a 7200RPM hdd isn't fast because my crappy laptop has a 5400rpm hdd(or is just the crappy cpu that's making it slow?).

 

Hope you understand why i'm asking this question.

yeah its worth it especially when you dont have a room or budget or time to migrate to the SSD be it small or big.

If the price is just like 20usd extra, i would say its plenty worth it as normal ssd at 20usd are horrible to even use as SSD Cache (and not all motherboard supports this)

[Mug]

If it's got an optical bay, you could replace that with a gard drive and your 5400rpm drive with an ssd because I don't reckon SSHDs are that great, they're barely faster and aren't as smart as I'd like.

[TheKDub]

No, they are not worth it.

 

All they do is add a small SSD (which is another point of failure for the drive) to use for storing commonly accessed files, it's not large enough to be of much use, and you might as well just go with a separate SSD and HDD, or if its in a laptop and there is only one drive location, then either an SSD or HDD.

[antoainb]

It will be faster than an HDD but it's no SSD. An HDD is fine for all intents and purposes, but once you go SSD you will notice a difference. However, since you're currently using a slow HDD why not get an HDD for now and save enough money to get an SSD later on? A two drive solution is the best IMO, gives you the cheap mass storage of a HDD while also giving you the speed of a SSD. But hey, if you really can't afford an SSD and don't think you will be able to anytime soon (this year, for example) then go ahead, get an SSHD.

[PierreCCesario]

A SSHD will only speed up frequently used programs such as Windows, autostart programs and such. That is how the 8GB of SSD space is being used. 

A 7200 RPM drive will be plenty fast, much faster than most laptop drives. I have a WD red 2TB hard drive, and I find it to be fast enough for most use, but prefer having an SSD for windows.

 

 

SSHDs use a small amount of Solid State storage to cache the HDD. So frequently used programs will load up faster. After the cache has been filled, it's pretty much just a plain HDD. 

 

Whether it's worth it or not will depend on the cost. If it's only a small amount more than a normal HDD, then sure, but if there's a larger gap in price, then you would be better off buying a 32GB SSD to cache a normal hard drive. 

Ah I see... I'll just get the tried and true WD Blue.

[rafazafar]

Ah I see... I'll just get the tried and true WD Blue.

 

I dont know if these people recommending have tried themselves a SSHD or not. I recommend you to just go check out youtube videos of comparisons.

I personally have used the seagate 1tb sshd(8gb ssd). and for everyday use it worked well. very well. But where i was living the price was too high.

 

Do note that these vids are using older SSHDs that arent as fast as the new ones.

 

 

 

 

SSHDs are almost as fast in app launching after few runs (high end ssd are still faster), the first boot/run will still be slow, but after that its fast.

just take that into account when watching the vid below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo&ab_channel=TheUgster

[PierreCCesario]

It will be faster than an HDD but it's no SSD. An HDD is fine for all intents and purposes, but once you go SSD you will notice a difference. However, since you're currently using a slow HDD why not get an HDD for now and save enough money to get an SSD later on? A two drive solution is the best IMO, gives you the cheap mass storage of a HDD while also giving you the speed of a SSD. But hey, if you really can't afford an SSD and don't think you will be able to anytime soon (this year, for example) then go ahead, get an SSHD.

Yeah, I guess i'll have to that.

[PierreCCesario]

I dont know if these people recommending have tried themselves a SSHD or not. I recommend you to just go check out youtube videos of comparisons.

I personally have used the seagate 1tb 8gb ssd. and for everyday use it worked well. very well.

 

Do note that these vids are using older SSHDs that arent as fast as the new ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo&ab_channel=TheUgster

Hmm... Thanks for sharing the videos. I still don't know what to pick. I guess I'll just decide on the day I purchase the drive.

[BillytheSkids]

I'm trying to get a fast hard drive but ssd's are just out of my budget. Unless 7200RPM hdd's are good in doing daily tasks(such as opening programs at a quick speed and loading maps in games)are SSHD's worth it? I'm worried that a 7200RPM hdd isn't fast because my crappy laptop has a 5400rpm hdd(or is just the crappy cpu that's making it slow?).

 

Hope you understand what I mean.

 

PierreCCesario,

     A ton of tests have shown that in majority of applications they only perform about on par with the RPM of the drive itself.  You will notice a difference in write speeds on a 7200 rpm versus a 5400 rpm.  Keep in mind that total disk usage is a factor in speed on platter systems as the center hub of the drive actually rotates faster then the outside edge.  However the current generation of SSHD's are optimized for power usage and they have lowered their speeds down to 5400 rpm.  If you have to have a platter system I would recommend getting a 7200 rpm specific drive which will cause a considerable battery run time reduction, With SSD's touching the $150 for 500 GB however it is a much better investment in performance (<2 times the price for 5-8 times the speed).  You will lose some battery run time theoretically as amp usage can spike over 1 amp on must SSD's versus the 0.5 amp on HDD's.  Most users say they notice no change however.  I'd suggest either save your money till you can afford an SSD or stick with the drive you have as spending $80-$90 on an SSHD will net you negligible difference.

 

Hope this helps.

[rafazafar]

PierreCCesario,

     A ton of tests have shown that in majority of applications they only perform about on par with the RPM of the drive itself.  You will notice a difference in write speeds on a 7200 rpm versus a 5400 rpm.  Keep in mind that total disk usage is a factor in speed on platter systems as the center hub of the drive actually rotates faster then the outside edge.  However the current generation of SSHD's are optimized for power usage and they have lowered their speeds down to 5400 rpm.  If you have to have a platter system I would recommend getting a 7200 rpm specific drive which will cause a considerable battery run time reduction, With SSD's touching the $150 for 500 GB however it is a much better investment in performance.  You will lose some battery run time theoretically as amp usage can spike over 1 amp on must SSD's versus the 0.5 amp on HDD's.  Most users say they notice no change however.  I'd suggest either save your money till you can afford an SSD or stick with the drive you have as spending $80-$90 on an SSHD will net you negligible difference.

 

Hope this helps.

https://youtu.be/uEiNZamKAEE?t=16s

 

2.5" comparison

 

all depends on the price tho. And ease of use.

[BillytheSkids]

https://youtu.be/uEiNZamKAEE?t=16s

 

2.5" comparison

 

all depends on the price tho. And ease of use.

 

rafazar,

     One thing that I would point out is that this is an older video when the SSHD's ran at 7200 rpm as opposed to their current models which have been reduced down to 5400 rpm.  On top of that while booting and certain commonly used applications may speed up 8GB is very small portion of space for increased speed and will fill up quickly.   Past that once it is full your standard use (opening a word or excel document, CAD model, playing a different game, etc) will show no improvement.

 

Hope this helps.

[rafazafar]

Yup its only usefull for normal usage. , not for cad or big data. for those u need ssd. for 85% of the time it will work just fine

and for games unless you are having loading its fine aswell

[PierreCCesario]

rafazar,

     One thing that I would point out is that this is an older video when the SSHD's ran at 7200 rpm as opposed to their current models which have been reduced down to 5400 rpm.  On top of that while booting and certain commonly used applications may speed up 8GB is very small portion of space for increased speed and will fill up quickly.   Past that once it is full your standard use (opening a word or excel document, CAD model, playing a different game, etc) will show no improvement.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

PierreCCesario,

     A ton of tests have shown that in majority of applications they only perform about on par with the RPM of the drive itself.  You will notice a difference in write speeds on a 7200 rpm versus a 5400 rpm.  Keep in mind that total disk usage is a factor in speed on platter systems as the center hub of the drive actually rotates faster then the outside edge.  However the current generation of SSHD's are optimized for power usage and they have lowered their speeds down to 5400 rpm.  If you have to have a platter system I would recommend getting a 7200 rpm specific drive which will cause a considerable battery run time reduction, With SSD's touching the $150 for 500 GB however it is a much better investment in performance (<2 times the price for 5-8 times the speed).  You will lose some battery run time theoretically as amp usage can spike over 1 amp on must SSD's versus the 0.5 amp on HDD's.  Most users say they notice no change however.  I'd suggest either save your money till you can afford an SSD or stick with the drive you have as spending $80-$90 on an SSHD will net you negligible difference.

 

Hope this helps.

Oh, this is interesting... I'll probably get a 7200rpm then. I wanna save some money and the hdd's are fast enough according to a recent post.

[BillytheSkids]

Oh, this is interesting... I'll probably get a 7200rpm then. I wanna save some money and the hdd's are fast enough according to a recent post.

 

PierreCCasario,

     That is 100% your choice, you may be able to find an older Momentus XT which while will lack the extra 4 GB of cache will have the higher RPM.   Another option to consider if storage is a major concern is the WD Black2 which I will include a link below.   This is essentially a small SSD with a larger hard drive for your main storage.  Still more expensive then a platter system but far less expensive then a larger capacity SSD.

 

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1190

 

Hope this helps.

 

Edit:

     Full disclosure, this is a constant debate for myself as I have a less expensive, smaller laptop/netbook (Inspiron 11 3000 I got for $299) I have for work.  While I know the huge performance potential I can not justify myself spending any money for less then an SSD and spending almost half of the whole computer cost on a HDD just seems silly to me as I have an inexpensive computer just is case it's damaged, dropped, or lost.

[rafazafar]

PierreCCasario,

     That is 100% your choice, you may be able to find an older Momentus XT which while will lack the extra 4 GB of cache will have the higher RPM.   Another option to consider if storage is a major concern is the WD Black2 which I will include a link below.   This is essentially a small SSD with a larger hard drive for your main storage.  Still more expensive then a platter system but far less expensive then a larger capacity SSD.

 

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1190

 

Hope this helps.

ah this is the special stuff

i guess if he has an extra slot, ssd+hdd

if just one, that black2 or sshd or ssd+external hdd will work.

either way may the pricing be with you.