New and Final build

[OAcesync]

I'm getting a new budget build for playing games at medium-high settings at 1080p 60fps, I don't really care about textures too much.

Just wanted to finally check if I could improve this and mainly wanted to know if I could make any improvement and if the PSU I chose is good: http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Supply/Smart_Series_/Smart_SE/C_00001965/Smart_SE_630W/design.htm

 

Budget: under 700 Pounds

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£84.53 @ Ebuyer) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£40.66 @ More Computers) 

Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£43.02 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£167.82 @ PC World Business) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.84 @ Amazon UK) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TRENDnet TEW-805UB 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£9.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Other: Windows 8.1 x64-bit Download (£99.99)

Other: NZXT CB-3P-Y Cable 2 Male to 1 Female (£2.44)

Other: Thermaltake 630W Hybrid Modular Power Supply (£47.56)

Total: £661.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-12 11:51 BST+0100

 

[Indus Monk]

it's perfect but u need a 750w PSU

[multifrag]

it's perfect but u need a 750w PSU

Is it a troll or are you serious? 630W is more than enough 

[rafazafar]

 

I'm getting a new budget build for playing games at medium-high settings at 1080p 60fps, I don't really care about textures too much.

Just wanted to finally check if I could improve this and mainly wanted to know if I could make any improvement and if the PSU I chose is good: http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Supply/Smart_Series_/Smart_SE/C_00001965/Smart_SE_630W/design.htm

 

Budget: under 700 Pounds

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£84.53 @ Ebuyer) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£40.66 @ More Computers) 

Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£43.02 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£167.82 @ PC World Business) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.84 @ Amazon UK) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TRENDnet TEW-805UB 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£9.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Other: Windows 8.1 x64-bit Download (£99.99)

Other: NZXT CB-3P-Y Cable 2 Male to 1 Female (£2.44)

Other: Thermaltake 630W Hybrid Modular Power Supply (£47.56)

Total: £661.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-12 11:51 BST+0100

 

i think for under 700 alot more can be done.

I will try to put up a suggestion later. also windows can be bought for much cheaper.

And please please try to use wired ethernet if you can. 

If you must use wireless, use a proper pci/e board.

[Castdeath97]

Why the z97 board? Save up and get a good H97M or H81 board and get a r9 280x.

[Bob Jim]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£168.18 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard: Asus H97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£77.55 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£38.90 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (£292.79 @ Aria PC) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1500 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.50 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£36.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TRENDnet TEW-805UB 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£9.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £703.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-12 12:12 BST+0100

 

This is best for non ovrclockers. If you want, you could get a lower spec GTX 970 and an SSD/Windows included in the £700. This is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than what you had, case fans are not needed. I added that wireless adapter into it, but running of an ethernet cable is better if you can. N extra case fans needed.

[Komplett]

Why the z97 board? Save up and get a good H97M or H81 board and get a r9 280x.

Z97 is better than H and B series.. -.-

[rafazafar]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.26 @ More Computers) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£40.66 @ More Computers) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.39 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (£155.99 @ Aria PC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.84 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£13.97 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Other: NZXT CB-3P-Y Cable 2 Male to 1 Female (£2.44)

Other: Windows 8.1 x64-bit Download (£35.00)

Total: £649.68

 

 

The z aniversary is cheaper than h97. so yeah.

But i would recommend this. Its pretty much an upgrade in every single way. 

Wayy faster SSD, more reliable wlan card, better cpu, better GPU (tho i like amd more, have to admit 960 will outperform 280 by far)

 

this build is only recommended beacause i see you want to do a blue-black build. Do note that those nzxt fans are bit noisy and they are white. dont know if it fits the style.

[manikyath]

Z97 is better than H and B series.. -.-

not if you're not OCing.

[OAcesync]

Why the z97 board? Save up and get a good H97M or H81 board and get a r9 280x.

Here UK stock is very limited for H87 and with H97 prices are no different from Z97

 

i think for under 700 alot more can be done.

I will try to put up a suggestion later. also windows can be bought for much cheaper.

And please please try to use wired ethernet if you can. 

If you must use wireless, use a proper pci/e board.

I can't run ethernet but I will take your advice and add PCIe instead 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£168.18 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard: Asus H97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£77.55 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£38.90 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (£292.79 @ Aria PC) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1500 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.50 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£36.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TRENDnet TEW-805UB 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£9.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £703.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-12 12:12 BST+0100

 

This is best for non ovrclockers. If you want, you could get a lower spec GTX 970 and an SSD/Windows included in the £700. This is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than what you had, case fans are not needed. I added that wireless adapter into it, but running of an ethernet cable is better if you can. N extra case fans needed.

 

I'm not sure about that, cheapest Windows I can find is around 60-70 Pounds (I could also use US but I might have to pay extra shipping) and it's a DVD that I would install off of a spare external DVD drive that I have lying around and I would rather download but I don't want to pirate or buy off of somewhere like Ebay, etc. If I can find a cheap 5GHZ PCIe,Windows 8 and SSD I can try and get that build but probably not because I'm only turning 15 without a job(not looking for one until after GCSEs) and I'm kind of on a strict budget under 700 Pounds and I haven't even taken into account shipping prices from the different sellers which can also bump up the price a lot as well. (Scan had like 10Pounds shipping for everything you order and if others are like that then the prices bumps up a lot).

[OAcesync]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.26 @ More Computers) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£40.66 @ More Computers) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.39 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (£155.99 @ Aria PC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.84 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£13.97 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  (£6.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Other: NZXT CB-3P-Y Cable 2 Male to 1 Female (£2.44)

Other: Windows 8.1 x64-bit Download (£35.00)

Total: £649.68

 

 

The z aniversary is cheaper than h97. so yeah.

But i would recommend this. Its pretty much an upgrade in every single way. 

Wayy faster SSD, more reliable wlan card, better cpu, better GPU (tho i like amd more, have to admit 960 will outperform 280 by far)

 

this build is only recommended beacause i see you want to do a blue-black build. Do note that those nzxt fans are bit noisy and they are white. dont know if it fits the style.

 

I kind of wanted a Semi modular since it's my first build and I know that the NZXT S340 although has great cable routing has limted space behind the mobo and PSU cover so I thought it would be a struggle

Not really sure I want to buy something off Ebay(because of principles) and my dad wouldn't let me anyways.

Why i5 with 960 that's overpowered

Also I know 2GB Vram is becoming more obsolete so I wanted at least 3GB and based on benchmarks pretty much 280/380=960 and a 4GB 960 is more expensive.

[Komplett]

not if you're not OCing.

You're so wrong, who said that to you?

 

" Z- or P- Prefixes: "Performance" Class. Although the P- series is now deprecated, Z- and P-prefixed chipsets are Intel's branding for "performance computing." This is what overclockers and not-quite-enthusiast-class enthusiasts opt for, making most of its demographic dedicated to gamers with an interest in OCing. The performance-series chipsets also make for great render/encoding machines, for those producing YouTube videos or other home footage with some regularity.

H- Prefixes: "Mainstream" computing. The H-series of chipsets is dedicated to non-K SKU CPUs, so it feels most at home when in an HTPC or other "living room" type of computer. Overclockers and enthusiasts should stick to Z and above, but anyone building a pure gaming machine with no interest to overclock at all (and no interest in multi-GPU arrays) should seriously consider H-class chipsets. We'll talk more about why below.

Q- or B- Prefixes: These are for biz-client users. Q-prefixed chips offer options for those working in professional environments that require specific features -- like identity protection -- while B-prefixed options are more budget-friendly, slimmed-down versions. "

 

"

Z87

The Z87 chipset is the most feature-rich chipset and is the only one to offer full CPU overclocking for supported (K-series) processors. This chipset can easily handle SLI/Crossfire configurations by allowing the 16 PCI-E lanes from the CPU to be divided into either a single x16 slot, dual x8 slots, or a single x8 plus two x4 slots. While this means that the Z87 chipset can support triple SLI/Crossfire configurations, we typically recommend against doing so except in isolated circumstances. In most cases a Socket 2011 system is a better option as the additional PCI-E 3.0 lanes will provide improved performance.

As far as its feature set goes, Z87 supports Rapid Storage Technology, Smart Response Technology (otherwise known as SSD Caching), six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports. In addition, Z87 also supports Lake Tiny which provides increased SSD power optimization features when using Smart Response Technology (SSD Caching). Finally, it supports two DIMMs per memory channel so it will be able to utilize up to four sticks of RAM.

The Z87 chipset is the chipset for the user that wants it all. CPU overclocking, support for triple SLI/Crossfire, plenty of SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 ports, and plenty of additional features.

H87

The H87 chipset is very similar to Z87, but lacks a few important features including CPU overclocking. In addition, this chipset is not able to divide up the PCI-E lanes from the CPU so it cannot handle SLI/Crossfire configurations.

Like Z87, H87 supports Rapid Storage Technology, Smart Response Technology (otherwise known as SSD Caching), six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports. Unlike Z87, it adds Small Business Advantage support, but removes support for Lake Tiny (SSD caching performance and power optimization). Finally, it supports two DIMMs per memory channel so it will be able to utilize up to four sticks of RAM.

H87 provides most of the same features as Z87 including plenty of SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0 ports. The only major features it lacks is CPU overclocking support and support for SLI/Crossfire configurations. Unfortunately, many motherboard manufactures attempt to push users to Z87 motherboards by limiting the number of ports and headers on their H87 motherboards. Because of this, Z87 motherboards are sometimes a better choice than H87 even when you do not need overclocking or SLI/Crossfire.

H81

The H81 chipset is the "budget" option and as such is very limited compared to the other consumer chipsets. It does not support SLI/Crossfire at all, has only two SATA 6Gb/s ports (plus four SATA 3Gb/s ports), and only two USB 3.0 headers. In addition, it does not support any of the major features found in the other chipsets like RST12 and Smart Response Technology. Finally, H81 only supports one DIMM per memory channel so it will be limited to a maximum of two sticks of RAM.

H81 is a great option for small form factor systems where you rarely have more than one discrete card and a couple of SATA drives. For larger desktop systems, we recommend avoiding the H81 chipset and using either Z87 or H87 instead to allow for the possibility of future upgrades.

 

B85

The B85 chipset is the "budget" business option and as such is very limited compared to the other business chipsets. As such, it does not support iSIPP or vPro. Like the Q85 chipset, it has four SATA 6Gb/s ports compared to the six found on Q87. The B85 chipset is a good option for systems that need only basic functionality without the various features found in the other business chipsets. "

[OAcesync]

Can someone tell me if PCIe wireless is much better than USB wireless because I want to buy a PCIe with Wireless AC as I have a 5GHZ broadband but they're slightly more expensive

Also I wanted intake fans for a completely balanced airflow with 2 exhausts and 2 intakes or would it not make much difference on temps.

[manikyath]

-snip-

good job copying wikipedia, but you're both right and wrong.

 

while indeed Z has more features, those features are completely wasted when not paired up with a K cpu.

[rafazafar]

Here UK stock is very limited for H87 and with H97 prices are no different from Z97

 

I can't run ethernet but I will take your advice and add PCIe instead 

 

I'm not sure about that, cheapest Windows I can find is around 60-70 Pounds (I could also use US but I might have to pay extra shipping) and it's a DVD that I would install off of a spare external DVD drive that I have lying around and I would rather download but I don't want to pirate or buy off of somewhere like Ebay, etc. If I can find a cheap 5GHZ PCIe,Windows 8 and SSD I can try and get that build but probably not because I'm only turning 15 without a job(not looking for one until after GCSEs) and I'm kind of on a strict budget under 700 Pounds and I haven't even taken into account shipping prices from the different sellers which can also bump up the price a lot as well. (Scan had like 10Pounds shipping for everything you order and if others are like that then the prices bumps up a lot).

just wanted to share my personal preffered build :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.26 @ More Computers) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97I AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£85.16 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£41.64 @ Dabs) 

Storage: Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (£74.64 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£249.98 @ Novatech) 

Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case  (£34.85 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro OEM (64-bit)  (£27.29) 

Total: £701.81

 

 

This build is kinda small put will pack a punch. If you dont wanna overclock the cpu (not worth the money to be honest), change to a cheaper H board. that will get u under 700gbp.

 

Wifi Ac is onboard. using SSHD instead of SSD. in gaming honestly enless you keep those large games on the SSD, difference is acceptable. (i can say this from experiance having used alot of SSDs)

get windows here

https://www.g2a.com/windows-8-professional-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html

 

Wifi Adapter info :http://www.pcworld.com/article/243226/the_desktop_wireless_adapter_difference_usb_vs_pci.html

[OAcesync]

You're so wrong, who said that to you?

 

" Z- or P- Prefixes: "Performance" Class. Although the P- series is now deprecated, Z- and P-prefixed chipsets are Intel's branding for "performance computing." This is what overclockers and not-quite-enthusiast-class enthusiasts opt for, making most of its demographic dedicated to gamers with an interest in OCing. The performance-series chipsets also make for great render/encoding machines, for those producing YouTube videos or other home footage with some regularity.

H- Prefixes: "Mainstream" computing. The H-series of chipsets is dedicated to non-K SKU CPUs, so it feels most at home when in an HTPC or other "living room" type of computer. Overclockers and enthusiasts should stick to Z and above, but anyone building a pure gaming machine with no interest to overclock at all (and no interest in multi-GPU arrays) should seriously consider H-class chipsets. We'll talk more about why below.

Q- or B- Prefixes: These are for biz-client users. Q-prefixed chips offer options for those working in professional environments that require specific features -- like identity protection -- while B-prefixed options are more budget-friendly, slimmed-down versions. "

 

"

Z87

The Z87 chipset is the most feature-rich chipset and is the only one to offer full CPU overclocking for supported (K-series) processors. This chipset can easily handle SLI/Crossfire configurations by allowing the 16 PCI-E lanes from the CPU to be divided into either a single x16 slot, dual x8 slots, or a single x8 plus two x4 slots. While this means that the Z87 chipset can support triple SLI/Crossfire configurations, we typically recommend against doing so except in isolated circumstances. In most cases a Socket 2011 system is a better option as the additional PCI-E 3.0 lanes will provide improved performance.

As far as its feature set goes, Z87 supports Rapid Storage Technology, Smart Response Technology (otherwise known as SSD Caching), six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports. In addition, Z87 also supports Lake Tiny which provides increased SSD power optimization features when using Smart Response Technology (SSD Caching). Finally, it supports two DIMMs per memory channel so it will be able to utilize up to four sticks of RAM.

The Z87 chipset is the chipset for the user that wants it all. CPU overclocking, support for triple SLI/Crossfire, plenty of SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 ports, and plenty of additional features.

H87

The H87 chipset is very similar to Z87, but lacks a few important features including CPU overclocking. In addition, this chipset is not able to divide up the PCI-E lanes from the CPU so it cannot handle SLI/Crossfire configurations.

Like Z87, H87 supports Rapid Storage Technology, Smart Response Technology (otherwise known as SSD Caching), six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports. Unlike Z87, it adds Small Business Advantage support, but removes support for Lake Tiny (SSD caching performance and power optimization). Finally, it supports two DIMMs per memory channel so it will be able to utilize up to four sticks of RAM.

H87 provides most of the same features as Z87 including plenty of SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0 ports. The only major features it lacks is CPU overclocking support and support for SLI/Crossfire configurations. Unfortunately, many motherboard manufactures attempt to push users to Z87 motherboards by limiting the number of ports and headers on their H87 motherboards. Because of this, Z87 motherboards are sometimes a better choice than H87 even when you do not need overclocking or SLI/Crossfire.

H81

The H81 chipset is the "budget" option and as such is very limited compared to the other consumer chipsets. It does not support SLI/Crossfire at all, has only two SATA 6Gb/s ports (plus four SATA 3Gb/s ports), and only two USB 3.0 headers. In addition, it does not support any of the major features found in the other chipsets like RST12 and Smart Response Technology. Finally, H81 only supports one DIMM per memory channel so it will be limited to a maximum of two sticks of RAM.

H81 is a great option for small form factor systems where you rarely have more than one discrete card and a couple of SATA drives. For larger desktop systems, we recommend avoiding the H81 chipset and using either Z87 or H87 instead to allow for the possibility of future upgrades.

 

B85

The B85 chipset is the "budget" business option and as such is very limited compared to the other business chipsets. As such, it does not support iSIPP or vPro. Like the Q85 chipset, it has four SATA 6Gb/s ports compared to the six found on Q87. The B85 chipset is a good option for systems that need only basic functionality without the various features found in the other business chipsets. "

Yeah I also wanted to upgrade soon to a i5 and OC so that's also another reason for Z97 and in UK practically no difference in pricing between H97 to Z97

[manikyath]

Can someone tell me if PCIe wireless is much better than USB wireless because I want to buy a PCIe with Wireless AC as I have a 5GHZ broadband but they're slightly more expensive

Also I wanted intake fans for a completely balanced airflow with 2 exhausts and 2 intakes or would it not make much difference on temps.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

 

its not the fact that wifi cards are usb or pci-e, its the fact the pci-e ones usually come with a decent antenna, while the USB ones usually have a small internal antenna, or no antenna at all. (it happens, i cri evritim..)

[OAcesync]

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

 

its not the fact that wifi cards are usb or pci-e, its the fact the pci-e ones usually come with a decent antenna, while the USB ones usually have a small internal antenna, or no antenna at all. (it happens, i cri evritim..)

Yeah thanks that's the one I changed to now

[Komplett]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/PLB3GX

 

This is what I would go for, maybe stretch it and get a 4690K..

No need for a modular PSU with the S340, It has a cover for that part..

[manikyath]

Yeah I also wanted to upgrade soon to a i5 and OC so that's also another reason for Z97 and in UK practically no difference in pricing between H97 to Z97

if you're going to OC, take in mind you'll also need a K cpu, and a beefy cpu cooler, both of which carry a bit of a price premium.

[OAcesync]

if you're going to OC, take in mind you'll also need a K cpu, and a beefy cpu cooler, both of which carry a bit of a price premium.

I would get the 4690K and Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO which I can get for 25Pounds which is cheap or should I get something more intense

[manikyath]

I would get the 4690K and Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO which I can get for 25Pounds which is cheap or should I get something more intense

the hyper 212 EVO is a pretty nice cooler from what i've heard.

[Komplett]

good job copying wikipedia, but you're both right and wrong.

 

while indeed Z has more features, those features are completely wasted when not paired up with a K cpu.

None of these were from Wikipedia..

 

The Z series give you overclocking paired with K CPUs, non K CPUs cant even be overclocked.

 

But Z motherboard will also be something you can upgrade your CPU in and the usually have higher quality components for that reason.

There is no reason not to go Z97, and you'll still be able to use some features with non K CPUs that H or B series cant do.

Imo, going for H or B is a dumb choice. Especially if you do it to save money, dont be dumb cheap.

[OAcesync]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/PLB3GX

 

This is what I would go for, maybe stretch it and get a 4690K..

No need for a modular PSU with the S340, It has a cover for that part..

Why a more expensive mobo, I would only be paying extra for M.2/Sata express and a extra heatsink which isn't really worth for the pricing

Why i5 with 380 that's kind of overpowered and 380 has little difference to 280 and more expensive, don't really need 4GB Vram with that lower powered card

No SSD

Would I struggle with cable management if I went with non modular or not because S340 has limited back space so I thought it would make sense to keep don't clutter at the back.

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I would get the 4690K and Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO which I can get for 25Pounds which is cheap or should I get something more intense

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/q6FkrH

 

This is quite a stretch, but you could save up some more money, that amount shoudnt take very long..

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/tpnvt6

 

This is with weaker graphics, but the 750Ti will get you 60fps in GTA V on High f.ex.

And from experience, its better to go with a good CPU and so, and a weaker GPU if you dont have enough money.

Its so much easier and cheaper to upgrade a GPU instead of CPU.

The 380 and the 4690k is the same price, so getting the 4690k from start is better, because it's easier to sell a used GPU. Its the same upgrade cost, but the GPU is much easier.

And as I said, the 750Ti is a really good card, and will get you good settings and fps, until you can upgrade.

I would go for the 750Ti version if I couldnt get the money for the 380 version.