M.2 Braket 90 Degrees solution?

[Chiobe]

Does anyone know if there exist a solution to get something like this to other motherboards?

Dont need to be a braket, a cable or 90 degree angle adapater works as well. I can always mod the rest.

[kichilron]

That's one weird way to mount an M.2

[Stefan1024]

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Not sure if something like this exists.

 

Don't you have a free PCI-E slot? PCI-E 2.0 is fine.

 

EDIT: Or you can get somethink like this and use SATA: http://www.microsatacables.com/1-8-inch-micro-sata-to-m-2-ngff-ssd-adapter

[REX.exe]

But why would you WANT to mount it like that?

[Chiobe]

Not sure if something like this exists.

 

Don't you have a free PCI-E slot? PCI-E 2.0 is fine.

The only free slot is hidden between 2 GPUs and would require a pci extender solution.

 

There are M.2 Extenders, but no idea how well they work:

[slightlyjaded]

This was one of the early ways around not having the space on board for an extra M.2 mount. It takes up a hell of a lot less real estate than a flat mounted M.2 drive on the board.

[Chiobe]

But why would you WANT to mount it like that?

For 2 reasons: First is to get it away from the water cooling and 2nd is to allow space for heat sink (since that seems to be a problem).

[REX.exe]

For 2 reasons: First is to get it away from the water cooling and 2nd is to allow space for heat sink (since that seems to be a problem).

It'll look like shit though.

[slightlyjaded]

Okay, just to debunk this before it gets started again. A Msata drive is a SSD in a M.2 form factor using the SATA express protocol. It is not a true M.2 drive. The difference is almost meaningless at the the low level, but when you get into the realm of the M.2 PCIe2.0x4, and above the difference starts to actually mean a serious amount of speed.

[Stefan1024]

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Up to 150mm of cabel length it should be fine.

 

Which SSD do you plane to use? Only the high end ones tend to overheat.

[Chiobe]

Okay, just to debunk this before it gets started again. A Msata drive is a SSD in a M.2 form factor using the SATA express protocol. It is not a true M.2 drive. The difference is almost meaningless at the the low level, but when you get into the realm of the M.2 PCIe2.0x4, and above the difference starts to actually mean a serious amount of speed.

Yeah, I'm going with a proper M.2 version. Hopefully a NVMe version.

 

 

Up to 150mm of cabel length it should be fine.

 

Which SSD do you plane to use? Only the high end ones tend to overheat.

This is where I got the heatsink idea: http://www.legitreviews.com/samsung-sm951-512gb-m-2-pcie-ssd-review_161689/3

 

150mm of cabel will allow me to mount it next to the motherboard, but then the question becomes: where can I find a proper cable that supports 4x gen 3?

[slightlyjaded]

Yeah, I'm going with a proper M.2 version. Hopefully a NVMe version.

 

 

This is where I got the heatsink idea: http://www.legitreviews.com/samsung-sm951-512gb-m-2-pcie-ssd-review_161689/3

 

150mm of cabel will allow me to mount it next to the motherboard, but then the question becomes: where can I find a proper cable that supports 4x gen 3?

Just watch out. To boot from a high end M.2 drive you need native UEFI support from the drive (I don't know your motherboard, so My best advice is to check compatibility on the M.2 drive's list)

[Chiobe]

Just watch out. To boot from a high end M.2 drive you need native UEFI support from the drive (I don't know your motherboard, so My best advice is to check compatibility on the M.2 drive's list)

Got Asus Rampage V Extreme, so I should be good on that end.

[slightlyjaded]

Got Asus Rampage V Extreme, so I should be good on that end.

Yeah that had support for most of the 2x4 drives on launch, should be good for it, and if it isn't a quick bios flash will get it up to date.

[Chiobe]

http://www.microsatacables.com/m-2-ngff-extender-cable-with-case-for-m-2-ngff-b-m-key-sata-ssd

That seems to work, but not sure what "High transmission up to 6GBs" means in terms of supported speeds.

[Stefan1024]

Yeah, I'm going with a proper M.2 version. Hopefully a NVMe version.

 

 

This is where I got the heatsink idea: http://www.legitreviews.com/samsung-sm951-512gb-m-2-pcie-ssd-review_161689/3

 

150mm of cabel will allow me to mount it next to the motherboard, but then the question becomes: where can I find a proper cable that supports 4x gen 3?

 

Oh yes the SM951 is toasty.

You made sure you have PIC-e 3.0 x 4 wired to the M.2 slot on the MoBo, did you?

 

The flat cabel on the extention you showed are actually pretty good for high speed signals. Better than the cheap ribon cabel based PCI-e riser for mining at least. And I got a 300 one of these working (but it's on the edge). But pay attention! M.2 solts with PCI-e x4 are very rare and it looks like the extention you found only supports SATA.

[Stefan1024]

http://www.microsatacables.com/m-2-ngff-extender-cable-with-case-for-m-2-ngff-b-m-key-sata-ssd

That seems to work, but not sure what "High transmission up to 6GBs" means in terms of supported speeds.

That is only SATA-3. PCI-E 3.0 x4 have in theory 32 GBit/s.

[Stefan1024]

@Chiobe

 

Intel 750 2.5 inch + Hyperkit?

[slightlyjaded]

http://www.microsatacables.com/m-2-ngff-extender-cable-with-case-for-m-2-ngff-b-m-key-sata-ssd

That seems to work, but not sure what "High transmission up to 6GBs" means in terms of supported speeds.

It means at it's best it's really SATA express.

[Chiobe]

That is only SATA-3. PCI-E 3.0 x4 have in theory 32 GBit/

So that one is out the window.

 

What about this one: http://www.mfactors.com/p12s-p12f-m-2-ngff-extender-board/

[Chiobe]

@Chiobe

 

Intel 750 2.5 inch + Hyperkit?

I dont want to give up a 16x slot for it:

[slightlyjaded]

So that one is out the window.

 

What about this one: http://www.mfactors.com/p12s-p12f-m-2-ngff-extender-board/

It's a PCIe (I assume) 2.0x1...It's actually slower than sata.

[slightlyjaded]

Okay with a 5960, or a 5930, you can have 2 graphics cards at 16x, and still have 8 lanes to play with (before you include the GEN2.0 lanes on the chipset) If you use a 5820k you can still get 3 graphics cards at 8x, and have 4 PCIe lanes. just stick an adapter card into one of the little slots. those are comman as horse...manure.

[Chiobe]

Okay with a 5960, or a 5930, you can have 2 graphics cards at 16x, and still have 8 lanes to play with (before you include the GEN2.0 lanes on the chipset) If you use a 5820k you can still get 3 graphics cards at 8x, and have 4 PCIe lanes. just stick an adapter card into one of the little slots. those are comman as horse...manure.

I got a 5930, so will have 8 lanes available.

But the problem is that I want to use both a PCI SSD and a M.2 SSD.

[slightlyjaded]

I got a 5930, so will have 8 lanes available.

But the problem is that I want to use both a PCI SSD and a M.2 SSD.

So put em both in, as far as I know the most high end M.2 drive still only uses PCIe3.0x4. btw sli is recognised with anything over x8 connectivity xfire requires x4.