Ram compatibility, questions, help!

[acercon]

so I want to get 8 more gbs of DDR3 ram but the ones i have is no longer available. I found this new ram and i want to be sure if it is compatible with my current one.

   

     Current ram (link, http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136 )

 

CAS Latency CL9

Error Checking Non-ECC

Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB

Number of Pins 240-pin

Signal Processing Unbuffered

Limited Warranty Lifetime

Form Factor DIMM Length 5.3"

Memory Speed 1600 MHz

Memory Size 8 GB

Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM

Memory Standard DDR3-1600/PC3-12800

Width 1.2"

Green Compliant Yes

Green Compliance Certificate/Authority REACH RoHS WEEE

ProductId 1020276087

 

New ram (link: http://www.ncix.com/detail/kingston-hyperx-fury-memory-black-5e-95956-1283.htm )

 

CAS Latency CL10

Error Checking Non-ECC

Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB

Number of Pins 240-pin

Signal Processing Unbuffered

Form Factor DIMM

Memory Speed 1600 MHz

Memory Size 8 GB

Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM

Memory Voltage 1.50 V

ProductId 1027334409

[acercon]

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[TheN00bBuilder]

Yes, it will work.

[Juanse]

Will work

[slightlyjaded]

 

so I want to get 8 more gbs of DDR3 ram but the ones i have is no longer available. I found this new ram and i want to be sure if it is compatible with my current one.

   

     Current ram (link, http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136 )

 

CAS Latency CL9 Error Checking Non-ECC Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB Number of Pins 240-pin Signal Processing Unbuffered Limited Warranty Lifetime Form Factor DIMM Length 5.3" Memory Speed 1600 MHz Memory Size 8 GB Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM Memory Standard DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 Width 1.2" Green Compliant Yes Green Compliance Certificate/Authority REACH RoHS WEEE ProductId 1020276087

 

New ram (link: http://www.ncix.com/detail/kingston-hyperx-fury-memory-black-5e-95956-1283.htm )

 

CAS Latency CL10 Error Checking Non-ECC Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB Number of Pins 240-pin Signal Processing Unbuffered Form Factor DIMM Memory Speed 1600 MHz Memory Size 8 GB Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM Memory Voltage 1.50 V ProductId 1027334409

 

Okay, speeds, are the same, but the CAS timings are different. I'm not saying you will run into problems at whatever speed they're actually running in your system, but I would recommend finding a CL9 kit instead at least, if not trying to find a set of the same you already have in your system

[acercon]

Yes, it will work.

 

 

Will work

will anything be effected? or it will just run smoothly

[acercon]

Okay, speeds, are the same, but the CAS timings are different. I'm not saying you will run into problems at whatever speed they're actually running in your system, but I would recommend finding a CL9 kit instead at least, if not trying to find a set of the same you already have in your system

i tried finding the ones i won but they don't sell them anymore. Will the different CAS cause it to crash?

[gazabi]

 

so I want to get 8 more gbs of DDR3 ram but the ones i have is no longer available. I found this new ram and i want to be sure if it is compatible with my current one.

   

     Current ram (link, http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136 )

 

CAS Latency CL9 Error Checking Non-ECC Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB Number of Pins 240-pin Signal Processing Unbuffered Limited Warranty Lifetime Form Factor DIMM Length 5.3" Memory Speed 1600 MHz Memory Size 8 GB Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM Memory Standard DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 Width 1.2" Green Compliant Yes Green Compliance Certificate/Authority REACH RoHS WEEE ProductId 1020276087

 

New ram (link: http://www.ncix.com/detail/kingston-hyperx-fury-memory-black-5e-95956-1283.htm )

 

CAS Latency CL10 Error Checking Non-ECC Number of Modules 2 x 4 GB Number of Pins 240-pin Signal Processing Unbuffered Form Factor DIMM Memory Speed 1600 MHz Memory Size 8 GB Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM Memory Voltage 1.50 V ProductId 1027334409

 

When mixing RAM, just match the frequency, cas latency and voltage. The ram you gave doesn't have the same latency as your old one so it may make your computer unstable. 

[TheN00bBuilder]

OH. I thought you wanted to replace it.

[Juanse]

will anything be effected? or it will just run smoothly

It is reccomended to keep same memory model for being sure that compatibility won't be an issue, but they are almost the same, but the latency difference could cause problems

[acercon]

Okay, speeds, are the same, but the CAS timings are different. I'm not saying you will run into problems at whatever speed they're actually running in your system, but I would recommend finding a CL9 kit instead at least, if not trying to find a set of the same you already have in your system

 

 

When mixing RAM, just match the frequency, cas latency and voltage. The ram you gave doesn't have the same latency as your old one so it may make your computer unstable. 

will this one work better? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-x-f3-12800cl9d-8gbxl-8gb-ff-57953-1283.htm )

[gazabi]

will this one work better? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-x-f3-12800cl9d-8gbxl-8gb-ff-57953-1283.htm )

Yup that one will work.

[acercon]

Yup that one will work.

its so ugly tho ... lol

[slightlyjaded]

i tried finding the ones i won but they don't sell them anymore. Will the different CAS cause it to crash?

These guy have them in stock

 

http://vcv.ca/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=43670

 

Mismatched CAS timings won't cause your system to crash at idle most of the time. What can happen if your motherboard can't correct on the fly is that under load, when the ram starts getting pushed hard, then the instructions that are supposed to be synchronized come in at different times. It's not so much about performance, but stability.

[acercon]

These guy have them in stock

 

http://vcv.ca/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=43670

 

Mismatched CAS timings won't cause your system to crash at idle most of the time. What can happen if your motherboard can't correct on the fly is that under load, when the ram starts getting pushed hard, then the instructions that are supposed to be synchronized come in at different times. It's not so much about performance, but stability.

yea, but its 100 dollars and the reason i want 8 more gbs is because they are cheap right now only at 65 bucks

[acercon]

Yup that one will work.

i dont see the CAS Latency on that ram, where did you find it?

[gazabi]

its so ugly tho ... lol

You can try newegg (Canadian dollars), I found a set of blue kingston rams that would work with your system. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104432

[gazabi]

i dont see the CAS Latency on that ram, where did you find it?

In the title it says cl9-9-9-24

[acercon]

In the title it says cl9-9-9-24

i am guessing theses will work as well then? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/adata-xpg-v1-0-8gb-ddr3-1600-45-93607-1382.htm )

[slightlyjaded]

will this one work better? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-x-f3-12800cl9d-8gbxl-8gb-ff-57953-1283.htm )

Yes, should be good. sorry for the delay. had to delve into kingston's archives for a better answer. Your current kit has the exact same timings of 9-9-9.....please not just because both are CL9, did not mean the timings were the same.

 

http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KHX1600C9D3B1K2_8GX.pdf

[gazabi]

i am guessing theses will work as well then? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/adata-xpg-v1-0-8gb-ddr3-1600-45-93607-1382.htm )

Yup

[acercon]

Yes, should be good. sorry for the delay. had to delve into kingston's archives for a better answer. Your current kit has the exact same timings of 9-9-9.....please not just because both are CL9, did not mean the timings were the same.

 

http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KHX1600C9D3B1K2_8GX.pdf

oh, thank you for doing that! so theses will work as well right? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/adata-xpg-v1-0-8gb-ddr3-1600-45-93607-1382.htm)

[slightlyjaded]

oh, thank you for doing that! so theses will work as well right? ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/adata-xpg-v1-0-8gb-ddr3-1600-45-93607-1382.htm)

yup, same speed, same timing.... different manufacturer (it doesn't matter as much as it used to) Be aware if you try pushing your ram past what it's rated for you may run into issues.