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Hello, just a theoretical question as of yet:

 

So im helping a friend pick out parts, and the list contains ATM an H81 mobo and a Haswell refresh CPU. Now i knew before and of course pcpartpicker says that some mobos need a BIOS update for that to work. I'm guessing its not very common when it needs, but worst case scenario it does need a BIOS refresh. How does that work? like i mean will the pc at least start up enough to get into bios to do the update, or will i need a compatible cpu first? Could someone explain to me how risky and complicated this could be? Would be the best bet to just go with an H97 board?Cheers in advance.

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id say to go with a h97 or z97 board because i dont think there that much more expensive and because of more stabillety not that it will be a problem but just because i think it will be better

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H97 usually only 10$ more, get it.

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Hello, just a theoretical question as of yet:

 

So im helping a friend pick out parts, and the list contains ATM an H81 mobo and a Haswell refresh CPU. Now i knew before and of course pcpartpicker says that some mobos need a BIOS update for that to work. I'm guessing its not very common when it needs, but worst case scenario it does need a BIOS refresh. How does that work? like i mean will the pc at least start up enough to get into bios to do the update, or will i need a compatible cpu first? Could someone explain to me how risky and complicated this could be? Would be the best bet to just go with an H97 board?Cheers in advance.

 

Call the retailer and inquire to any particular board.  Ask them if the bios is revised to Haswell Refresh specification... or go with the H97/Z97 boards.

 

Don't take that chance.  Verify, or buy the right board.

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Rarely you will get an old mobo sitting in the warehouse for a couple years and you would have to buy a compatible CPU and upgrade the bios yourself.

 

However the chance is so slim so I really wouldnt worry about it. If you are really scared about it you can contact the seller or read the description to find out if the BIOS is updated.

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Rarely you will get an old mobo sitting in the warehouse for a couple years and you would have to buy a compatible CPU and upgrade the bios yourself.

 

However the chance is so slim so I really wouldnt worry about it. If you are really scared about it you can contact the seller or read the description to find out if the BIOS is updated.

 

I really don't understand how you guys talk like this.  You recommend a risk that would mean the PC would not even post to bios.  Taking educated chances might seem okay to you, but when you are giving advice to others you really should not take unnecessary chances like this.

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I really don't understand how you guys talk like this.  You recommend a risk that would mean the PC would not even post to bios.  Taking educated chances might seem okay to you, but when you are giving advice to others you really should not take unnecessary chances like this.

 

Buying a PC has a risk that your components can fail or come DOA. So according to your logic, don't buy a PC because there is a chance your computer parts will come broken?

 

Why are you recommending people to buy a motherboard when it can FAIL.

 

Your logic makes no sense. 

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Buying a PC has a risk that your components can fail or come DOA. So according to your logic, don't buy a PC because there is a chance your computer parts will come broken?

 

Why are you recommending people to buy a motherboard when it can FAIL.

 

Your logic makes no sense. 

lol, you are a smart one.

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