i need help to build a 500 dollar gaming desktop (Console killer)

[kiicki]

Where I live a PS4 costs around 430 dollars so I can set the budget to 500 dollars.
What I don't need is:
SSD(HDD
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse

I have been using a console for a long time now because the games I play runs good with it. No big frame drop issues or lag.
I own a gaming laptop that I bought in 2012 and I have GTX 560M, i7 2630QM and 8GB ram. I know it's not any good now.
This was a high end Laptop at that time. Even though laptops performs worse than a desktop I still can't figure out why this laptop will not run battlefield 3 on low settings (1600x900) without any issues.
Issues like frame drops and FPS around 12, when my old console PS3 (a 10 year old console) still plays Battlefield 3 much better.

Even though I have a 3-4  year old laptop, it shouldn't perform any worse than a 10 year old console.
Now I have a PS4 that runs GTA V good, but can I build a PC with the same budget as a PS4 without any issues?
I'm going to play on 1080p and probably on medium settings with 60 FPS.

Is it possible to build a 500 dollar desktop that plays GTA V on medium settings, 1080P with 60 FPS?
If not I'm probably going to stick with the PS4 where I actually can get to play it. Even though the game will probably run at 30 FPS on console. I'm not sure, correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole idea is to build a PC that can run all games that is available on a console, for the same price. Without any lag issues. Since i haven't actually experience any lag issues when it comes to console gaming. I have heard thousands of times that you should build a PC, rather then wasting time on a console since a PC is cheaper and performs better.


 

[kiicki]

If you can get your hands on a ps3 motherboard, you're in luck. It has usb and ssd ports installed, and comes with a free 2gb of RAM. it has 1 fan that spins at 15 RPM. Glad i could help

I didn't even understand you sarcasm. All I want is to build a desktop that costs the same as a console, and it should play all games just as good as the console.

not like my laptop that plays old games with low settings with 12 FPS

[Guest Console Peasant]

I didn't even understand you sarcasm. All I want is to build a desktop that costs the same as a console, and it should play all games just as good as the console.

not like my laptop that plays old games with low settings with 12 FPS

I dont get it either and i know alot about pcs

 

i can tell you about pcpartpicker, they do really good budgets builds for just about damn everything,

 

trying this in google "pcpartpicker $500 pc build"

 

Good luck mate

[TristanK]

I didn't even understand you sarcasm. All I want is to build a desktop that costs the same as a console, and it should play all games just as good as the console.

not like my laptop that plays old games with low settings with 12 FPS

I wish you good luck because I dont belive that for the same money as console you will build a pc + buy the mouse, keyboard and monitor. If you only buy a PC without those 3 things you might make it but you have to buy some used parts because if you buy from stores you will not make a gaming PC that cheap that is worth much. Or if you get some crappy CPU and spend everything else on GPU. That might me your ticket to 400$ gaming rig. But some games nowdays also demand a more powerful CPU sooo yeah. I think the sweetspot for a gaming rig is 600$ if you want something decent and above if you have the money

[kiicki]

I wish you good luck because I dont belive that for the same money as console you will build a pc + buy the mouse, keyboard and monitor. If you only buy a PC without those 3 things you might make it but you have to buy some used parts because if you buy from stores you will not make a gaming PC that cheap that is worth much. Or if you get some crappy CPU and spend everything else on GPU. That might me your ticket to 400$ gaming rig. But some games nowdays also demand a more powerful CPU sooo yeah. I think the sweetspot for a gaming rig is 600$ if you want something decent and above if you have the money

Thanks, but I mentioned that I didn't need keyboard, monitor, mouse and SSD. I just hear people that you get much for your money when building a PC rather the buying a console. In this case, I actually don't know if that's true. You can build a PC that is much better then a console, but for the same money as the console I'm not sure. 

[kiicki]

I dont get it either and i know alot about pcs

 

i can tell you about pcpartpicker, they do really good budgets builds for just about damn everything,

 

trying this in google "pcpartpicker $500 pc build"

 

Good luck mate

Thanks!

[Guest Console Peasant]

Thanks!

No probs, chuck us a message if anything else

[TristanK]

Thanks, but I mentioned that I didn't need keyboard, monitor, mouse and SSD. I just hear people that you get much for your money when building a PC rather the buying a console. In this case, I actually don't know if that's true. You can build a PC that is much better then a console, but for the same money as the console I'm not sure. 

Ohh I am sorry I misread as if you needed those parts . Well than you just might make it. Like Linus and Luke in Scrapyard wars . If you do that you can get quite a beastly Gaming rig for 400$ because used HW loses price fast and you can get quite good used HW for 400$ and if you dont need those thing you said well that it really isnt that hard to find everything else for 400$ . Just check for parts in your local craigslist if you can and perhaps ebay but be careful of scammers.

 

If you re buying it from stores try finding the cheapest i5 4/4 or some AMD CPU equiveland to that i5 and some cheap HDD and cheap out on everything else so you re left with a lot of money for GPU....which is the most important for gaming rig

[TristanK]

Hmm, perhaps something like this

 

Component   Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where   CPU

Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

157.74€       157.74€ NCIX US Buy Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-H81M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

35.64€       35.64€ SuperBiiz Buy Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

40.99€   FREE   40.99€ Newegg Buy Storage

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

44.55€     44.55€ Amazon Buy Video Card

XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card

151.51€ -17.83€ FREE   133.68€ Newegg Buy

17.83€ mail-in rebate

  Case

Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case

20.49€ -4.46€ 5.34€   21.37€ Newegg Buy

4.46€ mail-in rebate

  Power Supply

CoolMax 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply

32.97€ -8.91€ 0.88€   24.94€ Newegg Buy

8.91€ mail-in rebate

  Base Total: 483.89€     Mail-in Rebates: -31.19€     Shipping: 6.22€     Total: 458.91€

I dont know much about AMD cpu's. It could be cheaper but i cant put it together for you since i dont know them

[Sir Asvald]

Hmm, perhaps something like this

Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where CPU

Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor157.74€ 157.74€ NCIX US Buy Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-H81M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard35.64€ 35.64€ SuperBiiz Buy Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory40.99€ FREE 40.99€ Newegg Buy Storage

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive44.55€ 44.55€ Amazon Buy Video Card

XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card151.51€ -17.83€ FREE 133.68€ Newegg Buy

17.83€ mail-in rebate

Case

Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case20.49€ -4.46€ 5.34€ 21.37€ Newegg Buy

4.46€ mail-in rebate

Power Supply

CoolMax 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply32.97€ -8.91€ 0.88€ 24.94€ Newegg Buy

8.91€ mail-in rebate

Base Total: 483.89€ Mail-in Rebates: -31.19€ Shipping: 6.22€ Total: 458.91€

I dont know much about AMD cpu's. It could be cheaper but i cant put it together for you since i dont know them

Please don't recommend that PSU. It is most likely a rubbish crap, that doesn't provide the right wattage.

[Nup]

Kyle at awesome sauce network recently made one. Also I think there is a thread for this kinda stuff. I'll try dig it out

[michaelocarroll007]

i have a similar laptop same pro and a GT 555m and i can run most games except the ones that are coming out late 2014 early 2015  at 1080p low/medium  battlefield defiantly 1080 medium/high above 30fps or anything around 2011 up till 2013 at that type of settings. i was playing metro 2033 redux averaging around 50fps on 1080p medium just last night.

 

i did however have crazy thermal throttle that i did not realize till i started attempting gaming on it for the first time in at least two years and games weren't running good at all till i cleaned it out really well and now im able to get a great overclock on it without hitting the thermal limit it is old and your not going to be running anything that's coming out at 1080 but  but i wouldn't say its no good anymore completely at least still can play most of the greatly discounted games that you can pick up during the steam summer sales and such i am replacing it soon and keeping it as a secondary computer so i do understand wanting to replace it but id save up a little more  and use what you have for a bit longer and get something that really one ups the counsels and what you have now and double check your not getting throttled and clean it well.

[kiicki]

i have a similar laptop same pro and a GT 555m and i can run most games except the ones that are coming out late 2014 early 2015  at 1080p low/medium  battlefield defiantly 1080 medium/high above 30fps or anything around 2011 up till 2013 at that type of settings. i was playing metro 2033 redux averaging around 50fps on 1080p medium just last night.

 

i did however have crazy thermal throttle that i did not realize till i started attempting gaming on it for the first time in at least two years and games weren't running good at all till i cleaned it out really well and now im able to get a great overclock on it without hitting the thermal limit it is old and your not going to be running anything that's coming out at 1080 but  but i wouldn't say its no good anymore completely at least still can play most of the greatly discounted games that you can pick up during the steam summer sales and such i am replacing it soon and keeping it as a secondary computer so i do understand wanting to replace it but id save up a little more  and use what you have for a bit longer and get something that really one ups the counsels and what you have now and double check your not getting throttled and clean it well.

Yeah, I sometimes get good FPS when playing Battlefield, and the throttling is probably the issue. I think I just need a new thermal paste since that is the only think I haven't done yet. I have cleaned. 

[kiicki]

Could anyone help me with this. I'm using a website that have benchmark results on almost every GPU.
I saw that the GTX 780 scored pretty high and it was cheap. But the price was so different. What is the difference between this cards?
 

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Classified ACX HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

85 Dollars

 

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

157 Dollars

 

Gainward GeForce GTX 780 Phantom HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

400 Dollars

[michaelocarroll007]

 

Could anyone help me with this. I'm using a website that have benchmark results on almost every GPU.

I saw that the GTX 780 scored pretty high and it was cheap. But the price was so different. What is the difference between this cards?

 

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Classified ACX HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

85 Dollars

 

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

157 Dollars

 

Gainward GeForce GTX 780 Phantom HDMI DP 2xDVI 3GB

400 Dollars

 

Im not update to date on what exactly it goes for but no way does a 780 sell for 85 or 157 dollars i would tell you to buy it ASAP if you could i think they sell for around 300 newegg has them refurbished/re-certified at $300.00  reasoning is that i think its somewhat close to a 970 which sells for low to mid $300s. anyone can correct me if im wrong since like i said im not on top of older cards selling prices