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Hello,

I built a PC for my friend with a gigabyte z97 p3d motherboard and a 4690k as CPU. I also bought an aftermarket cooler to keep tempratures low enhough when overclocking wich I did, I changed the multiplier to 41 and when I ran Prime95, the tempratures didn't go over 70 degrees celcius.

However, today my friend reported to me that his PC freezes when playing ACBF. He isnt even able to turn of the pc via the reset switch so he needed to unplug the power... Somethimes it just crashes but he is able to turn it off via windows itself.

I do not have the PC with me so I can not give you guys a lot of BIOS settings details but do you have any idea why it crashes?

Greetings

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Hello,

I built a PC for my friend with a gigabyte z97 p3d motherboard and a 4690k as CPU. I also bought an aftermarket cooler to keep tempratures low enhough when overclocking wich I did, I changed the multiplier to 41 and when I ran Prime95, the tempratures didn't go over 70 degrees celcius.

However, today my friend reported to me that his PC freezes when playing ACBF. He isnt even able to turn of the pc via the reset switch so he needed to unplug the power... Somethimes it just crashes but he is able to turn it off via windows itself.

I do not have the PC with me so I can not give you guys a lot of BIOS settings details but do you have any idea why it crashes?

Greetings

Sounds like a power issue, what PSU did you put in the system?

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Some games may hate overclocks. CS:GO for me hates 4.7Ghz so I just keep my CPU @ 4.5Ghz.

 

 

Try disabling the OC and play for a while. 

 

But first I would recommend updating the BIOS and other drivers.

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Sounds like symptoms I had OC'ing my FX processor. Initial stability tests were fine, but I had stability concerns later on. Try backing off the OC a little -- don't necessarily need to go all the way down to stock -- and see if that improves things. Depending on your PSU, you might need an upgrade in that department as well -- 500W with a GTX 770 and OC'd 4690k you might be coming close. I wouldn't up the voltage till you upgrade the PSU. Something in the 650W range might be more suitable.

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Is there a way to measure my total wattage?

 

There are power meters you can buy. I think the "Kill-A-Watt" is one I've seen recommended. Just put it between your PSU and the wall and watch it. Find one that has the ability to track a max wattage if the one I mentioned doesn't have that.

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If you have OCed it then try to declock it back a bit.

 

If that doesnt fix the problem if its back at stock speed and still has issues then that is bad! :(

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Oh, but isn't there a software application to measure it? I am really tight on budget so... yeah....

 

Only some Corsair PSUs that use USB connection have that ability. Otherwise there is no way to measure how much power PSU is using. You can try calculating from mobo sensors but those are as inaccurate as they can get. Furthermore, that PSU isn't meant for gaming PC and definitely for overclocking. It doesn't even have 80+ rating. It said to be for basic and mainstream PCs only.

 

Well, today my friend said that is seems to crash when the game tries to save... Could it be that the problem is caused by bad sata drivers?

 

More like bad HDD. Drivers don't cause crashes like that. And SATA drivers aren't that important in terms of stability either. They do more with speed of drive. Do you know if SATA mode is set to ACHI?

 

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Only some Corsair PSUs that use USB connection have that ability. Otherwise there is no way to measure how much power PSU is using. You can try calculating from mobo sensors but those are as inaccurate as they can get. Furthermore, that PSU isn't meant for gaming PC and definitely for overclocking. It doesn't even have 80+ rating. It said to be for basic and mainstream PCs only.

So... I am going to buy a new PSU today, is the cooler master g650m a good one for my hardware? I am very unexperienced with PSU's as you might know by now ;)

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So... I am going to buy a new PSU today, is the cooler master g650m a good one for my hardware? I am very unexperienced with PSU's as you might know by now ;)

 

Its better. With more watts and 80Plus rating.

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So... I guess we are in real trouble now... I installed the new PSU and it is still crashing... :/ what to do now?

 

Like I said earlier, it could be also bad HDD/SSD. Or even RAM. Depending on what kind of crashing it is. If its straight power off and reboot, it must be mobo that has problems handling power. BSODs will have error codes to troubleshoot further. Freezing is most likely RAM or drive issue.

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Like I said earlier, it could be also bad HDD/SSD. Or even RAM. Depending on what kind of crashing it is. If its straight power off and reboot, it must be mobo that has problems handling power. BSODs will have error codes to troubleshoot further. Freezing is most likely RAM or drive issue.

It is just a gray screen and I can not do anything... I am now running prime95 and valley benhmark on stock speed and the CPU is getting 78 degrees celcius so I guess it is the CPU that causes the crashes since it was around 90 degrees when on 4,2 ghz... I already reapplied the thermal compound so I guess just bad silicone?

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It is just a gray screen and I can not do anything... I am now running prime95 and valley benhmark on stock speed and the CPU is getting 78 degrees celcius so I guess it is the CPU that causes the crashes since it was around 90 degrees when on 4,2 ghz... I already reapplied the thermal compound so I guess just bad silicone?

 

That kind of crash isn't normal for overclocking instability. Those are most times BSODs with WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR showing on screen. Also thermal compound doesn't have any effect on crashing and you'd see thermal throttling long before crashing due high temps.

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That kind of crash isn't normal for overclocking instability. Those are most times BSODs with WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR showing on screen. Also thermal compound doesn't have any effect on crashing and you'd see thermal throttling long before crashing due high temps.

Yes, I know the thermal compount does not affect the crashes but it does affect the temps :)

I do not think it's the ram beacause it does not crash while running prime95 and valley benchmark at the same time... My friend is now again playing the game so we shall see I guess... :/

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