Upgrade fx8320 to?

[OxygenNapalm]

Hey guys, just a question. my sibling wants me to build them a pc at some point so i thought maybe id upgrade a bit. my question is what do you all think about a dual Xeon x5650 pc, Id use this for a mix of gaming, video editing and hosting servers for me and my friends(mostly minecraft). I know the xeon has to have 1333 ram if im correct? currently my system is on 16gb of 1333 anyhow so that wouldnt be a problem. What do you all reccomend and whats a good motherboard for this dual xeon build? also how should i cool them, If I give up my 8320 i will give the CM seidon 120 up also, would dual hyper 212 evo's be good? let me know what you all think.

Thanks,

Oxygen

[Jumper118]

Hey guys, just a question. my sibling wants me to build them a pc at some point so i thought maybe id upgrade a bit. my question is what do you all think about a dual Xeon x5650 pc, Id use this for a mix of gaming, video editing and hosting servers for me and my friends(mostly minecraft). I know the xeon has to have 1333 ram if im correct? currently my system is on 16gb of 1333 anyhow so that wouldnt be a problem. What do you all reccomend and whats a good motherboard for this dual xeon build? also how should i cool them, If I give up my 8320 i will give the CM seidon 120 up also, would dual hyper 212 evo's be good? let me know what you all think.

Thanks,

Oxygen

dual socket are super expensive, you can run memory speeds of 2000mhz+.  a 5820K wouldn't perform much worst and might even work out cheaper. 

[SkywardKkalox]

A single 1231v3 xeon would be more than enough, from your purpose of using this PC you will have absolutely 0 use of a 2nd xeon.

[SeanBond]

Hey guys, just a question. my sibling wants me to build them a pc at some point so i thought maybe id upgrade a bit. my question is what do you all think about a dual Xeon x5650 pc, Id use this for a mix of gaming, video editing and hosting servers for me and my friends(mostly minecraft). I know the xeon has to have 1333 ram if im correct? currently my system is on 16gb of 1333 anyhow so that wouldnt be a problem. What do you all reccomend and whats a good motherboard for this dual xeon build? also how should i cool them, If I give up my 8320 i will give the CM seidon 120 up also, would dual hyper 212 evo's be good? let me know what you all think.

Thanks,

Oxygen

Sounds like quite the power house you want but do those cpu's really cost 500+? You could build two systems with a 5820k in them and save money and use one as your server. Not only save money but they would be a lot faster with some OC. 

[manikyath]

i want to mention a few things:

- i doubt dual xeon is very cost effective in this use case.

- hosting servers on the same pc as you're playing the games isnt a very good idea.

 

it might be a better idea to build yourself an i5 or i7 system, and making a second, pentium-based system as a server, that can be controlled over the network.

 

^ this may end up a tad more expensive, but has a lot of advantages, like the abilty of having network storage, disattached from your own system, and above all, it'll be a learning experience of building a server, and installing (and using) management software. (also: linux might be in place here)

[OxygenNapalm]

dual socket are super expensive, you can run memory speeds of 2000mhz+.  a 5820K wouldn't perform much worst and might even work out cheaper. 

i can get 2 xeon's for 140ish on ebay. can you recommend a dual cpu board that supports the 5650's? 

 

A single 1231v3 xeon would be more than enough, from your purpose of using this PC you will have absolutely 0 use of a 2nd xeon.

that single cpu is way more expensive than i would like to spend, on newegg thats about 250ish, Id like to spend 250ish on a pair plus mobo. 

[Jumper118]

Sounds like quite the power house you want but do those cpu's really cost 500+? You could build two systems with a 5820k in them and save money and use one as your server. Not only save money but they would be a lot faster with some OC. 

the cpu's are cheap. the motherboard would be expensive and very hard to find. 

i can get 2 xeon's for 140ish on ebay. can you recommend a dual cpu board that supports the 5650's? 

 

that single cpu is way more expensive than i would like to spend, on newegg thats about 250ish, Id like to spend 250ish on a pair plus mobo.

this is the only motherboard that is good for dual 1366 xeons http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVGA-SR-2-SR2-270-WS-W555-A2-LGA-1366-2-x-Xeon-L5639-6c-2-13-Ghz-24GB-DDR3-/301570949223?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4637078067

[OxygenNapalm]

Sounds like quite the power house you want but do those cpu's really cost 500+? You could build two systems with a 5820k in them and save money and use one as your server. Not only save money but they would be a lot faster with some OC. 

im looking at 5650's on ebay and a pair goes for near 140 USD.. thats waay less than a 5820k, which i would need to buy an expensive x99 board to go with. 

 

i want to mention a few things:

- i doubt dual xeon is very cost effective in this use case.

- hosting servers on the same pc as you're playing the games isnt a very good idea.

 

it might be a better idea to build yourself an i5 or i7 system, and making a second, pentium-based system as a server, that can be controlled over the network.

 

^ this may end up a tad more expensive, but has a lot of advantages, like the abilty of having network storage, disattached from your own system, and above all, it'll be a learning experience of building a server, and installing (and using) management software. (also: linux might be in place here)

I see what you mean but Im on a tight budget, I dont see how cpu power would be a problem by hosting on the same machine? 

[SkywardKkalox]

i can get 2 xeon's for 140ish on ebay. can you recommend a dual cpu board that supports the 5650's? 

 

that single cpu is way more expensive than i would like to spend, on newegg thats about 250ish, Id like to spend 250ish on a pair plus mobo. 

Still overall cost of motherboard + CPUs is WAY much more than a 1230v3 and an h97 motherboard.

dual socket motherboards tend to cost over a grand.

[manikyath]

I see what you mean but Im on a tight budget, I dont see how cpu power would be a problem by hosting on the same machine? 

to be honest, i think if you're on a budget a dual xeon machine is counter-productive.

 

i'll make you a pair of pcpartpicker lists, one with the gaming rig cpu, mobo and cooler, and one with a server mobo and cooler (low power cpu doesnt really require a large cooler)

[OxygenNapalm]

Still overall cost of motherboard + CPUs is WAY much more than a 1230v3 and an h97 motherboard.

dual socket motherboards tend to cost over a grand.

do they still cost that much? the 5650 is a lga 1366 socket?

[Arcanekitten]

to be honest, i think if you're on a budget a dual xeon machine is counter-productive.

 

i'll make you a pair of pcpartpicker lists, one with the gaming rig cpu, mobo and cooler, and one with a server mobo and cooler (low power cpu doesnt really require a large cooler)

true he shouldn't buy two xeon's 

[SkywardKkalox]

do they still cost that much? the 5650 is a lga 1366 socket?

Considering the 980x stills cost about a grand yea.

[manikyath]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sxLTt6

 

this would be a pretty decent upgrade for a gaming/editing rig, still cheaper than the dual-cpu mobo's on PCPP

[OxygenNapalm]

to be honest, i think if you're on a budget a dual xeon machine is counter-productive.

 

i'll make you a pair of pcpartpicker lists, one with the gaming rig cpu, mobo and cooler, and one with a server mobo and cooler (low power cpu doesnt really require a large cooler)

thanks, would I be safe buying something like a HP z800 workstation mobo though? Ive looked around on ebay and I can get dual cpu's for 150 give or take 10 and an HP z800 dual cpu lga 1366 for under 100 bucks. so 240 thats 240 right there?

[SkywardKkalox]

do they still cost that much? the 5650 is a lga 1366 socket?

Also the 1366 socket is an ancient one at this point there is no reason to go with it.

[manikyath]

thanks, would I be safe buying something like a HP z800 workstation mobo though? Ive looked around on ebay and I can get dual cpu's for 150 give or take 10 and an HP z800 dual cpu lga 1366 for under 100 bucks. so 240 thats 240 right there?

to be honest, i really dont like second hand hardware if you dont know where it came from, also what @SkywardKkalox said.

[SkywardKkalox]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sxLTt6

 

this would be a pretty decent upgrade for a gaming/editing rig, still cheaper than the dual-cpu mobo's on PCPP

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($241.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $303.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-11 15:58 EDT-0400

 

 

 

Even cheaper.

[manikyath]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Zy9Lk

 

this'll be a pretty decent server to toss linux on, and put in a corner somewhere to forget about.

 

from my testing, the G3250 should be capable of running a minecraft server for ~30 people without even having a hiccup,

or even running two at once, two cores -> two servers that dont interfere on each other's performance.

[OxygenNapalm]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Zy9Lk

 

this'll be a pretty decent server to toss linux on, and put in a corner somewhere to forget about.

 

from my testing, the G3250 should be capable of running a minecraft server for ~30 people without even having a hiccup,

or even running two at once, two cores -> two servers that dont interfere on each other's performance.

alright thanks for all the help, I think ill just wait and upgrade to 4790k or even set up that server you made, thank you very much

[manikyath]

alright thanks for all the help, I think ill just wait and upgrade to 4790k or even set up that server you made, thank you very much

i was actually planning to get a pentium G3250 based server myself, but sadly in europe things are quite a bit more expensive. 

 

the thing about the G3250 that shouts home server is that its the single core pefromance of haswell refresh, packed in a low-power, cheap processor.

[TheGamingBarrel]

Sounds like quite the power house you want but do those cpu's really cost 500+? You could build two systems with a 5820k in them and save money and use one as your server. Not only save money but they would be a lot faster with some OC. 

They cost like £70 each here in the UK

[SeanBond]

They cost like £70 each here in the UK

I'll take 4.

[TheGamingBarrel]

I'll take 4.

Well, on ebay taken out of working servers