CAD/Rendering Rig

[JSind11]

A friend of mine needs a new CAD/ rendering machine, he has a budget of roughly £1000-1200.

This machine needs to be as powerful as possible within this price range.

Also needs Win 8.1 64bit

Maybe a 1Tb (other storage is already available)

And an SSD of say 120gb for windows to go onto.

This is just my first swing at spec'ing this thing out.....

( the PSU was supposed to be a 750w one didn't realise until after )

Any thoughts?

Would an i7 with multi-threading be better than the 8350?

Is the FirePro worth it compared to similarly price gaming GPU's?

Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks

[WoodenMarker]

What's the system being used for?

If you're referring to the 4790k, yes--it's better than the 8350.

Whether the FirePro is worth getting depends on what the system is being used for--basically the first question ↑

[FloRolf]

why would you put an 8350 in a "as powerful as possible" rig?

 

Edit:

i'd 100% go 4790k.

What are you rendering with? I mean the programme. If it uses Cuda acceleration i'd go with something like gtx970 instead of a fire pro tbh.

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[The_Warbird]

why would you put an 8350 in a "as powerful as possible" rig?

 

Edit:

i'd 100% go 4790k.

What are you rendering with? I mean the programme. If it uses Cuda acceleration i'd go with something like gtx970 instead of a fire pro tbh.

Yeah but he needs a CAD capable card and i dont think a GTX970 is that good of a choice for that. But for Rendering heck yeah get the 970

[FloRolf]

Yeah but he needs a CAD capable card and i dont think a GTX970 is that good of a choice for that. But for Rendering heck yeah get the 970

 

i used my 970 and my old 780 for CAD and it works fine. It's just nvidia/amd marketing bullshit. Unless you do really really high end CAD like a full functioning jet engine or something you are gonna be fine with a consumer grade card.

[The_Warbird]

i used my 970 and my old 780 for CAD and it works fine. It's just nvidia/amd marketing bullshit. Unless you do really really high end CAD like a full functioning jet engine or something you are gonna be fine with a consumer grade card.

Oh ok wasn't shure.

[JSind11]

Ok so the main program being used is this one,

ArchiCAD18

https://www.graphisoft.com/support/system_requirements/AC18/

So a decent 970 would do the trick you reckon?

Would the 3.5 + 0.5 make any difference at al?'

Thanks for the Quick replies ,

Yeah but he needs a CAD capable card and i dont think a GTX970 is that good of a choice for that. But for Rendering heck yeah get the 970

Mainly because of the budget being in mind,

I know 1200 is a good size but I wasn't sure if the GPU would need to something more expensive,

I Very little experience with this type of PC.

One other thing, is the speed of the RAM important at all? (Within reason)

[JSind11]

Marked as solved by mistake, have re-opened.

[The_Warbird]

Ok so the main program being used is this one,

ArchiCAD18

https://www.graphisoft.com/support/system_requirements/AC18/

So a decent 970 would do the trick you reckon?

Would the 3.5 + 0.5 make any difference at al?'

Thanks for the Quick replies ,

Mainly because of the budget being in mind,

I know 1200 is a good size but I wasn't sure if the GPU would need to something more expensive,

I Very little experience with this type of PC.

One other thing, is the speed of the RAM important at all? (Within reason)

So for CAD the vram is probably important (im not shure either) but i dont think the #ramgate wont affect it very much but judging by the KOPIUS AMOUNTS of ram the higher end quadros have, Vram seems to be a factor but i think it will only matter alot if you are like an engineer for Airbus or so.                                      

 

So yeah, like FloRolf said the 970 should be fine otherwise if youre friend does need more Vram in the future he can still take in a quadro or firepro as long as the psu and MOBO support it.

Also if he has like a 10bit (super high color fidelity)  monitor, i think to get the full color-range (10bit) you need a quadro or firepro. 

 

 

Long story short: See if he needs the extra CAD-performance and 10bit monitor support and if not then the 970 will do fine.

[The_Warbird]

So i checked their website and of course quadros are faster but the nvidia gtx cards they used were like a 750 as the newest an as high end as it got. So yeah.............................................. the 970 will be more than enough.

[WoodenMarker]

Ok so the main program being used is this one,

ArchiCAD18

https://www.graphisoft.com/support/system_requirements/AC18/

So a decent 970 would do the trick you reckon?

Would the 3.5 + 0.5 make any difference at al?'

Mainly because of the budget being in mind,

I know 1200 is a good size but I wasn't sure if the GPU would need to something more expensive,

I Very little experience with this type of PC.

One other thing, is the speed of the RAM important at all? (Within reason)

What kind of projects are you working on?--details on the scale of projects would help. 

The 970 is ill-fitted for ArchiCAD in terms of price/performance. A decent gpu with a good amount of vram would be fine. 

The speed of the ram generally affect performance for the most part and I think the same applies in this case.

[JSind11]

What kind of projects are you working on?--details on the scale of projects would help. 

The 970 is ill-fitted for ArchiCAD in terms of price/performance. A decent gpu with a good amount of vram would be fine. 

The speed of the ram generally affect performance for the most part and I think the same applies in this case.

So i've got a bit more information. 

 

He mainly designs large-scale projects such as large houses, shopping malls, warehouses etc. 

so I expect this would have a difference on the type of components needed. 

 

He has also mentioned that he can push this budget up to £2000 if we can get 2 decent monitors with it?

[WoodenMarker]

So i've got a bit more information. 

 

He mainly designs large-scale projects such as large houses, shopping malls, warehouses etc. 

so I expect this would have a difference on the type of components needed. 

 

He has also mentioned that he can push this budget up to £2000 if we can get 2 decent monitors with it?

That's pretty helpful.

I'd recommend something like this: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jk3Q99

It could be cheaper depending on how big of an issue money is: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/dR9ZK8

[JSind11]

That's pretty helpful.

I'd recommend something like this: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jk3Q99

It could be cheaper depending on how big of an issue money is: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/dR9ZK8

Ok that all seems pretty spot on to me,

Can I just ask what the reason for the 960 is as instead of any other cards?

Thanks again for the help.

[WoodenMarker]

Can I just ask what the reason for the 960 is as instead of any other cards?

It performs pretty well for AutoCAD and the vram should be useful when working on larger projects.  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-7.html

[JSind11]

It performs pretty well for AutoCAD and the vram should be useful when working on larger projects.  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-7.html

Thanks for your help with this, 

so after a bit more discussion with him, he has decided he wants an ultra wide monitor after testing one at work. 

and had some suggestions from what his colleagues have used. 

 

Hence why I have made some changes to the list you made. 

 

Could I just ask you opinion on this build?:

 

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TqGgmG

 

Thanks again!!

 

 

[WoodenMarker]

Thanks for your help with this, 

so after a bit more discussion with him, he has decided he wants an ultra wide monitor after testing one at work. 

and had some suggestions from what his colleagues have used. 

Hence why I have made some changes to the list you made. 

Could I just ask you opinion on this build?:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TqGgmG

Thanks again!!

What's with the larger case and louder cooler?

Why the 970? Is the system also for gaming?

If he's looking at ultrawide displays, at least get a better one: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/dell-monitor-u3415w

The ultrawide in the list has less space to work with than even one of the U2515H's.