New camera for new shooter?

[Williamchan87]

I'm buying the lenses new. Just wondering if this is the way to go.

I guess it's fine starter set.

[IBIubbleTea]

I guess it's fine starter set.

If I buy the lenses refurbished directly from Nikon, I can get the lenses for much cheaper. So I have a bit of a larger budget for lenses at regular price. $1100. Any other suggestions?

[Williamchan87]

If I buy the lenses refurbished directly from Nikon, I can get the lenses for much cheaper. So I have a bit of a larger budget for lenses at regular price. $1100. Any other suggestions?

is this counting the 35 1.8 and 70-300, or you want a to see what other one or avail in the $1100 budget?

[IBIubbleTea]

is this counting the 35 1.8 and 70-300, or you want a to see what other one or avail in the $1100 budget?

No without the 35 and 70-300. Just see what I can get with 1100 compared to the 800 from last time.

[Williamchan87]

well if you are lucky you can try for a setup like this:

-Sigma Art 18-35 1.8 + nikon 70-300 4.5-5.6

-nikon 35 1.8 + nikon 50 1.8 + 70-300 4.5-5.6

-nikon 70-200 F4 + nikon 50 1.8 (if you are lucky)

-rokinon 12 f2 (manual) + 50 1.4 + 70-300 4.5-5.6

-nikon 60 2.8Micro AF-s + rokinon wide angle of sort + 70-300 4.5-5.6

-Tamron 150-600 5-6.3 (perfect for budget lens for birding and planes)

-tamron 70-200 2.8 macro AF + 50 1.8 + 35 1.8

-Tamron 70-200 2.8 macro AF + Tamron 10-24 3.5-4.5

-Tamron 70-200 2.8 macro AF + Tamron 17-50 2.8

-Tamron 70-200 2.8 macro AF + Sigma 10-20 4-5.6

-Tamron 70-200 2.8 macro AF + Sigma 17-50 2.8

-Sigma 150-500 5-6.3 + 50 1.8 + 35 1.8

 

 

 

you can use this as a basis and try mix and match other combinations just to be clear pretty much all F2.8 in this setup sheet is APS-C lens, and the large focal zooms like 150-500 or 600 are full frame, and quite huge lens. All 50 or 35mm lens quoted are nikons, all Rokinon(can be replacced by Samyang/Bower as they are same company) are manual. Some items are based on common sales of the lens.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Williamchan87

[IBIubbleTea]

well if you are lucky you can try for a setup like this:

Sigma Art 18-35 + nikon 70-300 4.5-5.6

What about just nikon lenses? The refurbished lenses from Nikon can/are quite cheap

[Williamchan87]

sorry I actually edited my quote quite a few times if you read above, well I'm just getting some combinations out, and do you have the refurbished page link?

To be honest I think of all APS-C lens no other lens has been my favourite then the Sigma 18-35 1.8 a zoom range eq. to 27-50mm at 1.8 would mean you got a wide angle a standard 35 and a standard 50mm at 1.8 in one super sharp lens.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Williamchan87

[Williamchan87]

I just looked at the Nikon USA refurbished site, and seems like the pricing isn't that great, it's like brand new lens with discount they have quite often. 

[IBIubbleTea]

I just looked at the Nikon USA refurbished site, and seems like the pricing isn't that great, it's like brand new lens with discount they have quite often. 

I have been talking to a Nikon Canada rep and s/he said...

 

70-200mm f/4: $1249.96 + tax

24-70mm f/2.8: $1299.96 + tax

AF-S 35mm f/1.8G DX: $169.96 + tax 

AF-S 70-300mm VR: $299.96 + tax

 

 

Well some lenses aren't that bad for the pricing.

[Williamchan87]

I have been talking to a Nikon Canada rep and s/he said...

 

70-200mm f/4: $1249.96 + tax

24-70mm f/2.8: $1299.96 + tax

AF-S 35mm f/1.8G DX: $169.96 + tax 

AF-S 70-300mm VR: $299.96 + tax

 

 

Well some lenses aren't that bad for the pricing.

I still think the Sigma art 18-35 1.8 and the nikon 70-300 AF-S is your best bet, but if you want to just get nikon 35mm 1.8 DX 70-300 4.5-5.6 and a 60mm 2.8 Micro could be good

[Brandonberg]

I have been talking to a Nikon Canada rep and s/he said...

 

70-200mm f/4: $1249.96 + tax

24-70mm f/2.8: $1299.96 + tax

AF-S 35mm f/1.8G DX: $169.96 + tax 

AF-S 70-300mm VR: $299.96 + tax

 

 

Well some lenses aren't that bad for the pricing.

 

All of those except the 35mm f/1.8 DX are full frame lenses hence the price. They are wasted money (edit: for a crop sensor camera) for a beginner unless you intend to hold on to them for a long time and go full frame in the near future.

 

IMO, A prime lens (35mm or 50mm) should only compliment a wide/near angle zoom lens. Buying just the 35mm f/1.8 and the 70-300 is going to make it very hard to take photos inside. You have to remember your looking at crop sensor camera and you have less frame to shoot with, not everything will be at the perfect 35mm distance.

 

I have an 18-140, 18-55, 55-300, 35mm prime and 50mm prime. I find I use the 18-140 the most, the primes for specific lighting situations, and basically never use the 55-300 zoom unless i am outdoors, indoors you need to be quite far away from the subject even at 55mm on a APS-C camera and this isn't always practical in a confined space.

 

You talk alot about prime lenses? I wouldn't even suggest a prime until you have the rest of your focal range covered with appropriate zoom lenses. Why do you feel you need a prime when starting out?

[IBIubbleTea]

All of those except the 35mm f/1.8 DX are full frame lenses hence the price. They are wasted money (edit: for a crop sensor camera) for a beginner unless you intend to hold on to them for a long time and go full frame in the near future.

 

IMO, A prime lens (35mm or 50mm) should only compliment a wide/near angle zoom lens. Buying just the 35mm f/1.8 and the 70-300 is going to make it very hard to take photos inside. You have to remember your looking at crop sensor camera and you have less frame to shoot with, not everything will be at the perfect 35mm distance.

 

I have an 18-140, 18-55, 55-300, 35mm prime and 50mm prime. I find I use the 18-140 the most, the primes for specific lighting situations, and basically never use the 55-300 zoom unless i am outdoors, indoors you need to be quite far away from the subject even at 55mm on a APS-C camera and this isn't always practical in a confined space.

 

You talk alot about prime lenses? I wouldn't even suggest a prime until you have the rest of your focal range covered with appropriate zoom lenses. Why do you feel you need a prime when starting out?

Idk I played with the 35mm prime for a bit at a camera store and didn't have to be that far to take portrait of 1-2 people. Should I get a 18-140 with the prime or something? As of right now I plan on getting a full frame in the furture but that's a bit to early...

[Williamchan87]

All of those except the 35mm f/1.8 DX are full frame lenses hence the price. They are wasted money (edit: for a crop sensor camera) for a beginner unless you intend to hold on to them for a long time and go full frame in the near future.

 

IMO, A prime lens (35mm or 50mm) should only compliment a wide/near angle zoom lens. Buying just the 35mm f/1.8 and the 70-300 is going to make it very hard to take photos inside. You have to remember your looking at crop sensor camera and you have less frame to shoot with, not everything will be at the perfect 35mm distance.

 

I have an 18-140, 18-55, 55-300, 35mm prime and 50mm prime. I find I use the 18-140 the most, the primes for specific lighting situations, and basically never use the 55-300 zoom unless i am outdoors, indoors you need to be quite far away from the subject even at 55mm on a APS-C camera and this isn't always practical in a confined space.

 

You talk alot about prime lenses? I wouldn't even suggest a prime until you have the rest of your focal range covered with appropriate zoom lenses. Why do you feel you need a prime when starting out?

Everyone has their own preference how they like to get the shot done, and everyone preference different lens setup, like i never owned a zoom lens that is below FF 200mm. and I never bought a APS-C lens despite I use to use one.

[Captain_Slow]

I have the D7100 personally, 

 

everyone talks about 50mm being a really good focal length, know that they are talking about full-frame cameras, not crops. the D7100 with a 50mm primes gets 75mm of focal length, which I found to be a bit too long for a lot of indoor shooting. 

 

that being said, 50mm is still great for outdoors. 

 

My favorite prime lens for the d7100 was actually the 40mm f2.8. f2.8 is 2 stops of light less than f1.4 and 1 1/3 stops less than an f1.8, but it's just that bit wider and it offers macro photography option by having that close focus distance. Plus it's probably the sharpest DX lens period. 

 

the 18-140 lens is a really versatile, but you get quite a bit of vignetting and barrel distortion, the images aren't going to be usable unless you put them through lightroom.

 

if you end up buying the camera with 18-140, I would not bother with zoom lenses, since there arn't any zoon lenses under $1500 cad that are going to be remotely as sharp as any of the primes. Zooms are for 1. lazy people, and 2. travelling photographers that need to carry less number of lenses

 

and if you end up getting a d7100 and up you can go with AF lenses that dont have an autofocus motor, they cost less and give just as good images, but they wont give you weather proofing. 

[IBIubbleTea]

I have the D7100 personally, 

 

everyone talks about 50mm being a really good focal length, know that they are talking about full-frame cameras, not crops. the D7100 with a 50mm primes gets 75mm of focal length, which I found to be a bit too long for a lot of indoor shooting. 

 

that being said, 50mm is still great for outdoors. 

 

My favorite prime lens for the d7100 was actually the 40mm f2.8. f2.8 is 2 stops of light less than f1.4 and 1 1/3 stops less than an f1.8, but it's just that bit wider and it offers macro photography option by having that close focus distance. Plus it's probably the sharpest DX lens period. 

 

the 18-140 lens is a really versatile, but you get quite a bit of vignetting and barrel distortion, the images aren't going to be usable unless you put them through lightroom.

 

if you end up buying the camera with 18-140, I would not bother with zoom lenses, since there arn't any zoon lenses under $1500 cad that are going to be remotely as sharp as any of the primes. Zooms are for 1. lazy people, and 2. travelling photographers that need to carry less number of lenses

 

and if you end up getting a d7100 and up you can go with AF lenses that dont have an autofocus motor, they cost less and give just as good images, but they wont give you weather proofing. 

I was planning on getting a 35mm and a 70-300mm for now. When I get a job and when I'm actually good at photography, I plan on getting like a 24-70 2.8 or something along those lines.

 

 

Edit: I currently have about $800 to spend on lenses soo yenno...

[Captain_Slow]

I was planning on getting a 35mm and a 70-300mm for now. When I get a job and when I'm actually good at photography, I plan on getting like a 24-70 2.8 or something along those lines.

 

 

Edit: I currently have about $800 to spend on lenses soo yenno...

 

the 70-300 pulls in around 9 mpix of detail, where as the 40mm f2.8 pulls in 15 mpix.

 

the 35mm f1.8 dx lens pulls in around 12 mpix,

 

you won't find many situations where you'll need a 70-300 (105-450mm equivalent). the 18-140 (27-210 eqv.) should be all the zoom you need and it's sharper than the 70-300

[IBIubbleTea]

the 70-300 pulls in around 9 mpix of detail, where as the 40mm f2.8 pulls in 15 mpix.

the 35mm f1.8 dx lens pulls in around 12 mpix,

you won't find many situations where you'll need a 70-300 (105-450mm equivalent). the 18-140 (27-210 eqv.) should be all the zoom you need and it's sharper than the 70-300

So with $800, I should get a 35mm and a 18-140?

I am planning on doing some sports like badminton, I don't mind bumping up the ISO and I should mention that I have a trip to China next year. I know I should bring something like a mirror less but idk about them, I just like dslr more... Some more lenses suggestion? If $800 can't get good lenses, I can try $1100.

[Captain_Slow]

So with $800, I should get a 35mm and a 18-140?

I am planning on doing some sports like badminton, I don't mind bumping up the ISO and I should mention that I have a trip to China next year. I know I should bring something like a mirror less but idk about them, I just like dslr more... Some more lenses suggestion? If $800 can't get good lenses, I can try $1100.

 

 I would get the 40 mm and 18-140 and pick up a 50mm f1.8d for low light scenes.