Which GPU to KILL CONSOLES! -And news

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

To make a console killer pc of second hand components. Wanna be able to play dragon age on max details on at least 30 fps max detail (aa off ) 1080p .
Any news to console killer pcs ? Cause consoles are getting better support and better graphics due to optimization. More and more games run on 1080p and dx12 might make xbone overkill. :-D for the price. Win 10 brings cross platform gaming ??

[SwaggMcSwaggySwag]

Probably the r9 280x 

[Gaben the Great]

Depends on your budget. 

 

Low= 260x

Medium= 280x/290

High= 970

 

Anything below a 260 is not worth the money.

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

Depends on your budget. 

 

Low= 260x

Medium= 280x/290

High= 970

 

Anything below a 260 is not worth the money.

Oh come on, you don't need 970 gtx just to run it on high settings with no AA. 1080p 30 fps.

My Hd 6990 can run it 40+ avg on 50 fps. Maxed out.

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

Probably the r9 280x 

that's basically a 7970 right? (which is what you would find easier second hand)

[No Nrg]

GTX 960

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

GTX 960

second hand... Older cards..

[Phase]

To make a console killer pc of second hand components. Wanna be able to play dragon age on max details on at least 30 fps max detail (aa off ) 1080p .

Any news to console killer pcs ? Cause consoles are getting better support and better graphics due to optimization. More and more games run on 1080p and dx12 might make xbone overkill. :-D for the price. Win 10 brings cross platform gaming ??

 

I think a good "console killer" gpu would be the GTX 750 TI. It should put out >30 fps at 1080p and perform noticeably better than PS4.    

 

For a budget console killer PC, I like the Intel Pentium G3258 Anniversary edition (CPU), H81 motherboard, GTX 750 TI (GPU), 8 GB RAM, and inexpensive case.  This would get you decent performance at 1080p and give you room to upgrade for <$400 (not including windows license).

[Najuno]

I think a good "console killer" gpu would be the GTX 750 TI. It should put out >30 fps at 1080p and perform noticeably better than PS4.    

 

For a budget console killer PC, I like the Intel Pentium G3258 Anniversary edition (CPU), H81 motherboard, GTX 750 TI (GPU), 8 GB RAM, and inexpensive case.  This would get you decent performance at 1080p and give you room to upgrade for <$400 (not including windows license).

Indeed I have a GTX750Ti in a HTPC here and 1080p with med to high in most games with 35-50FPS are no problem.

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

Sounds nice, however that dual core CPU can't run new Next gen games that well, so a quad core should be better right ? Most new games are at least quad supported right ? or am I completely off ?

[Najuno]

Sounds nice, however that dual core CPU can't run new Next gen games that well, so a quad core should be better right ? Most new games are at least quad supported right ? or am I completely off ?

Quad core is if you can afford it definitely better. I´d go for an i5 4440. Cheap but good CPU.

[chopdok]

Please, stop this "kill the console" nonsense. Since when consoles, with their subpar performance, have become a benchmark for PC hardware? You shouldn't aim to match console levels of performance, because then you basically aim for crap. Get the best GPU you can afford, and don't even look at consoles. They are unimpressive, weak, and nowhere near what an average gaming PC in 2015 looks like.

 

This whole "consoles are getting better optimisation" is a song people should really stop singing. Consoles are basically PCs. The difference between developing for Windows and for PS4 is the same as developing for Windows and for Linux. They have different API, and while consoles have slight differences, mainly in form of several auxiliary chips that handle stuff like h.264 encoding, audio processing, and such - in the end, I can find 2 PC and the difference between them will be bigger than between PC and PS4. The only real advantage they had was slightly better API. But DX12, Vulcan are around the corner - so no big deal.

 

If you are shopping for used hardware - HD79xx GPUs can be sometimes found for 150$ or less.

[Najuno]

Please, stop this "kill the console" nonsense. Since when consoles, with their subpar performance, have become a benchmark for PC hardware? You shouldn't aim to match console levels of performance, because then you basically aim for crap. Get the best GPU you can afford, and don't even look at consoles. They are unimpressive, weak, and nowhere near what an average gaming PC in 2015 looks like.

 

This whole "consoles are getting better optimisation" is a song people should really stop singing. Consoles are basically PCs. The difference between developing for Windows and for PS4 is the same as developing for Windows and for Linux. They have different API, and while consoles have slight differences, mainly in form of several auxiliary chips that handle stuff like h.264 encoding, audio processing, and such - in the end, I can find 2 PC and the difference between them will be bigger than between PC and PS4. The only real advantage they had was slightly better API. But DX12, Vulcan are around the corner - so no big deal.

You are absolutely right and that´s why a highend gaming PC should look like either one of the 2 I have in my sig and here at home .

[chopdok]

You are absolutely right and that´s why a highend gaming PC should look like either one of the 2 I have in my sig and here at home .

Well, I would classify what you have as way above high-end. That is "enthusiast grade", above and beyond what average gamer can and should afford. You have some amazing rigs, but you don't need to have that much to enjoy quality gaming with high FPS. Today's high-end gaming PC is i5, 8 gigs of RAM, and GTX 970 or R9 290/290X. For 1440p/1080p that is. You can get a good, mid-high end gaming PC for ~700$, and enjoy 1080p, high fidelity graphics and good performance, 60 FPS or more in all AAA titles.

 

Even 500$ PC, with i3 or FX6300, 8 GB of VRAM, and 750 Ti or R9 270X can deliver very enjoyable gaming experience. The whole idea of PC gaming is that you can spend less on games, by having sales and big library of cheap but still great AAA titles of past years, and spend more on hardware. You of course, know this, but some people don't.

[Najuno]

Well, I would classify what you have as way above high-end. That is "enthusiast grade", above and beyond what average gamer can and should afford. You have some amazing rigs, but you don't need to have that much to enjoy quality gaming with high FPS. Today's high-end gaming PC is i5, 8 gigs of RAM, and GTX 970 or R9 290/290X. For 1440p/1080p that is. You can get a good, mid-high end gaming PC for ~700$, and enjoy 1080p, high fidelity graphics and good performance, 60 FPS or more in all AAA titles.

 

Even 500$ PC, with i3 or FX6300, 8 GB of VRAM, and 750 Ti or R9 270X can deliver very enjoyable gaming experience. The whole idea of PC gaming is that you can spend less on games, by having sales and big library of cheap but still great AAA titles of past years, and spend more on hardware. You of course, know this, but some people don't.

Yeah I know my stuff is indeed enthusiast grade. You are correct here most people don´t play higher than 1080p or max 1440p and with cards like GTX970, R9 290X or here and there a GTX980 this is usually as good as it gets. And I do not mean that negative. This is a lot of gaming raw computing power. Combinde with an i5 or consumer grade i7 these system can easily satisfy gamers needs.

Honestly if I wasn´t that crazy about hardware and hadn´t the desire to be on the bleeding edhe of technology I think I would go with a consumer grade i7 and a GTX980 and call it a day.

[arnavvr]

Radeon HD 7950, the console killer GPU, can be found used for $85-100

[arnavvr]

Yeah I know my stuff is indeed enthusiast grade. You are correct here most people don´t play higher than 1080p or max 1440p and with cards like GTX970, R9 290X or here and there a GTX980 this is usually as good as it gets. And I do not mean that negative. This is a lot of gaming raw computing power. Combinde with an i5 or consumer grade i7 these system can easily satisfy gamers needs.

Honestly if I wasn´t that crazy about hardware and hadn´t the desire to be on the bleeding edhe of technology I think I would go with a consumer grade i7 and a GTX980 and call it a day.

 

But you have a 5960X with two Titan X's in SLI

[-iSynthesis]

that's basically a 7970 right? (which is what you would find easier second hand)

Yeah, its basicly a 7970 GHZ edition.

[-iSynthesis]

Radeon HD 7950, the console killer GPU, can be found used for $85-100

As usual, in germany everything is freaking expensive... I was looking for a 7950 but theres no way im paying 120€+ for a used one...

[Najuno]

But you have a 5960X with two Titan X's in SLI

Just because I´m so much into hardware that I want to be on the cutting edge of what´s possible. And this is just possible with enthusiast grade hardware.

[Doughnutnator]

If you want console-like stuff then you're aiming at 720p gaming.

That's extremely easy with low end GPU's, 750Ti, 260x and stuff.

Put an i5 4440 to that and there you go, a console crusher.

If you want 1080p, get a 7950(280) used, like some users said before.

Easy, not very expensive and very powerful.

I think that you don't always need to run your games at Ultra, sure, it's nice, but don't get obsessed about it. At the end of the day you play for fun, not for FPS and numbers.

[FinestRyeBread]

Gtx 960 & 970

R9 280 & 290

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

If you want console-like stuff then you're aiming at 720p gaming.

That's extremely easy with low end GPU's, 750Ti, 260x and stuff.

Put an i5 4440 to that and there you go, a console crusher.

If you want 1080p, get a 7950(280) used, like some users said before.

Easy, not very expensive and very powerful.

I think that you don't always need to run your games at Ultra, sure, it's nice, but don't get obsessed about it. At the end of the day you play for fun, not for FPS and numbers.

But most/many games on PS4 actually DO run on 1080p now?

Also Xbox one will probably start running them at 1080p too, when direct x 12 is implemented.

So I guess, definitely not looking at 720p. So in a way, consoles are actually getting pretty good price for performance, considering 1080p games on mere 500$ ?

A used xfx 7950 costs 145.8 USD here. Still a bit expensive

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

Gtx 960 & 970

R9 280 & 290

Finding used 280 & 290 is possible, but difficult.

However 960 gtx (cheapest from Galax) 218 $ and Galax 970 is 365 USD. Cheapest again.