computer degrees?

[jdmilion]

What are some degrees for computer tech (hardware only i dunz care about software) that there are too get? can u range on a scale from lots of math to not a lot of math? Thanks lololol. Im trying to figure out what my options are.

Also would computer enginering be making processors and stuff?

[Arty]

What are some degrees for computer tech (hardware only i dunz care about software) that there are too get? can u range on a scale from lots of math to not a lot of math? Thanks lololol. Im trying to figure out what my options are.

Also would computer enginering be making processors and stuff?

Personaly Im looking into cad (no math) and computer science (some math)

[nj4ck]

I'm pretty sure any kind of computer-related degree involves software. Lots of it, usually. AFAIK there is no degree in putting together components and jobs in developing the hardware will mostly require some type of engineering degree that involves A LOT of math.

[jdmilion]

Personaly Im looking into cad (no math) and computer science (some math)

pardon but what does cad stand for?

[Arty]

pardon but what does cad stand for?

computer aided design

Programs like autodesk inventor 

https://www.google.com/search?q=cad&safe=off&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=isLrVLCgKpSvyAS53YLYCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=899

[nj4ck]

pardon but what does cad stand for?

computer-aided design

 

nvm, too slow

[jdmilion]

Personaly Im looking into cad (no math) and computer science (some math)

So computer science is like, learning how cpus and gpus etc. work? And how to make more efficiant and powerful cpus and gpus etc.?

[Arty]

So computer science is like, learning how cpus and gpus etc. work? And how to make more efficiant and powerful cpus and gpus etc.?

A lil

Thiers a lot of bracnchs

https://www.cs.mtu.edu/~john/whatiscs.html

[jdmilion]

A lil

Thiers a lot of bracnchs

What would computer science be?

And what would be making more efficiant hardware? Computer enginering?

[Arty]

What would computer science be?

And what would be making more efficiant hardware? Computer enginering?

https://www.cs.mtu.edu/~john/whatiscs.html

[Jarsky]

If you dont like math, don't do CompSci - it involves understanding the fundementals of computers, and how logic gates work (what makes up a processor), computer architecture, operating system operation, software engineering (basic programs, shims, etc...) and how that ties into hardware, etc....essentially its Math and Software - two things you said you don't want.

 

If you're talking about a job designing graphics cards with better power delivery systems, core architecture etc...you're getting more into engineering where comp sci will only be part of the equation. You have to have an exceptional understanding of circuit design, processors, etc..and strong math to make it in this field. Its also a very niche market.

 

Apart from industrial machines and such you'll find it very hard to not have to learn software. Even much of the industrial machinery used in the likes of power plants, have their own proprietary software.

 

I guess the big thing is....what are you trying to achieve? Do you want to design your own hardware like some of the start ups you see at CES? Do you want to get involved in Datacentres? Do you want to do computer repair? etc...

[KE2012]

I'm currently doing electronics and computer engineering degree at uni, and I can tell you that 99% of my work is software related. If you want any idea of what you would be doing if you did a electronics degree look up VHDL.

[GoodBytes]

If you want to make hardware (chips,circuit board), it's all software. Nvidia, AMD, Intel, all build on software. They build a simulator of the chip they try to produce. It involves a lot of research, experimentation and building tests, and measuring performance. Once all is done, the simulator translate all that to a chip plan, which they use at the manufacturing stages. From there, the chip isn't done, it usually come out not working, and it's all about investigating, correcting, adjusting, and the specs of a processor can change at this stage, all depending on how good the simulator they built is. So there is that too. Once all is good, and the chip produce is good, then it starts the mass manufacturing process.

[Pomfinator]

Computer Science or Engineering has everything to do with math.  Math is the backbone of how everything computer related works, so you can't avoid it.  Most CS programs will make you take at least Linear Algebra and Discrete Math in order to declare.

 

And Computer Engineering is pretty much CS classes intermixed with EE, which in itself is physics which is based on math as well.  Anyway, you can't be in a STEM field and not do math.

[jdmilion]

If you dont like math, don't do CompSci - it involves understanding the fundementals of computers, and how logic gates work (what makes up a processor), computer architecture, operating system operation, software engineering (basic programs, shims, etc...) and how that ties into hardware, etc....essentially its Math and Software - two things you said you don't want.

If you're talking about a job designing graphics cards with better power delivery systems, core architecture etc...you're getting more into engineering where comp sci will only be part of the equation. You have to have an exceptional understanding of circuit design, processors, etc..and strong math to make it in this field. Its also a very niche market.

Apart from industrial machines and such you'll find it very hard to not have to learn software. Even much of the industrial machinery used in the likes of power plants, have their own proprietary software.

I guess the big thing is....what are you trying to achieve? Do you want to design your own hardware like some of the start ups you see at CES? Do you want to get involved in Datacentres? Do you want to do computer repair? etc...

Computer repair would be cool. and i am willing to do math if i get to desighn gpus and ssd and cpus

[jdmilion]

If you dont like math, don't do CompSci - it involves understanding the fundementals of computers, and how logic gates work (what makes up a processor), computer architecture, operating system operation, software engineering (basic programs, shims, etc...) and how that ties into hardware, etc....essentially its Math and Software - two things you said you don't want.

If you're talking about a job designing graphics cards with better power delivery systems, core architecture etc...you're getting more into engineering where comp sci will only be part of the equation. You have to have an exceptional understanding of circuit design, processors, etc..and strong math to make it in this field. Its also a very niche market.

Apart from industrial machines and such you'll find it very hard to not have to learn software. Even much of the industrial machinery used in the likes of power plants, have their own proprietary software.

I guess the big thing is....what are you trying to achieve? Do you want to design your own hardware like some of the start ups you see at CES? Do you want to get involved in Datacentres? Do you want to do computer repair? etc...

Also what exactly is computer science? If it is teaching how cpus work thats what i really want.

[zappian]

My IT degree is 95% based around making software lol.

[Thorium19]

Also what exactly is computer science? If it is teaching how cpus work thats what i really want.

Computer science is the theory and development of software for use in different systems, from calculators and washing machines to high end supercomputers like IBMs Watson. For in theory hardware based, but not necessarily only or mainly, look at electrical and electronic engineering, or an electronics and computer science joint degree.

[jdmilion]

Computer science is the theory and development of software for use in different systems, from calculators and washing machines to high end supercomputers like IBMs Watson. For in theory hardware based, but not necessarily only or mainly, look at electrical and electronic engineering, or an electronics and computer science joint degree.

What about hardware engineering?

[GoodBytes]

What about hardware engineering?

Computer Engineer you mean. That is a mix of Computer Science (which you learn at an overview level), with electric engineer.

You learn how to do circuitry and integrated circuits (so electric engineer) with computer science elements such as algorithm and data structures, and programming. You also learn, much like computer science assembly code (usually some very old Intel CPU, or some simplified assembly code, to get the idea behind it, as it is VERY CPU focused. The moment you finish the class a new CPU, even if it based on the same architecture will most likely have new features which means new assembly code to do things better), and other such course. Design of algorithms and compiler design and AI are all courses you don't cover (but you can probably take as electives, depending on your university program). As I said, overview of Computer Science.

[LasersPewPew]

So computer science is like, learning how cpus and gpus etc. work? And how to make more efficiant and powerful cpus and gpus etc.?

That would be Computer Engineering then. Computer Science mainly focuses on the fundamentals of software development. IE. How compilers work, understanding and developing algorithms, understanding how Operating Systems work kind of thing and most importantly, programming and developing code. There are usually no hardware involved. 

 

Computer Engineers would be the combination of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering. Leaning how hardware is made and then developing software to communicate with hardware. 

[MuffinTopMike]

What about hardware engineering?

Hardware engineering in my opinion involves less maths than computer science, but it also involves quite a bit of physics (electricity). Hardware engineering involves the design and production of computers and components, whereas computer science involves more software based jobs.

[LasersPewPew]

 

Hardware engineering in my opinion involves less maths than computer science, but it also involves quite a bit of physics (electricity). Hardware engineering involves the design and production of computers and components, whereas computer science involves more software based jobs.

 

 

I would say Computer Science involves less Math than Computer Engineering. Computer Science normally requires calculus, linear algebra and discreet mathematics. Computer Engineering students would take those + Physics (which is essentially another math course)