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Jitter in games with second screen viewing youtube etc?

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I've got an Asus VG248QE main monitor and an Acer SL231hbid second (144Hz main, 60Hz alt, but my VG248QE is set to 120 for ULMB), and no matter what I do my games seem to jitter/lag/stutter even on non intensive pages (pandora, facebook), and it's only worse in youtube videos.

 

I never had this issue with my FX-4100 & HD7850 even with two screens, any ideas as to what's going on? Seems to be recent, either that or I just never noticed before.

I'm on the Omega (14.12?) drivers. FX-8320 CPU @ 4.5GHz & *XFX R9 290

 

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gpu? 

 

woops

 

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I have this happen with my VGA monitor. Are you using VGA?

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Yeah this happens with ny rig as well when playing more intensive games

Just open another blank tab and put it over video if you don't have to watch it.

 

Still get dips/jitter unfortunately, and all I play is Osu or League of Legends.

Sometimes I like watching streams while playing, too

:(

 

I have this happen with my VGA monitor. Are you using VGA?

 

DVI-D on main monitor, HDMI with second.

 

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Weird. I've never had this. Is your gpu overclocked? Are you using afterburner?

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Weird. I've never had this. Is your gpu overclocked? Are you using afterburner?

 

it was overclocked but i reverted it back to stock and uninstalled afterburner, no game i play needs it to be oc'd and nothing runs it very hot anyhow.

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Are you using Chrome?

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Are you using Chrome?

 

indeed

i'll try out using firefox (aurora) while gaming and see if there's a difference, good idea.

 

*i tried it out, there seems to be less jitter but still a pretty heavy dip in framerate. not a huge difference from chrome however.

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i'll try out using firefox (aurora) while gaming and see if there's a difference, good idea.

*i tried it out, there seems to be less jitter but still a pretty heavy dip in framerate. not a huge difference from chrome however.

How much ram do you have?

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How much ram do you have?

8gb @ 1866mhz, dual channel

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8gb @ 1866mhz, dual channel

 

Is hardware acceleration turned on in chrome? 

Can't seem to think what might be causing you to stutter 

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Is hardware acceleration turned on in chrome? 

Can't seem to think what might be causing you to stutter 

 

turned it off, still having the same issue. :9 it sucks

 

whenever anything is on my 2nd screen that actively moves/refreshes i instantly take dips in framerate and introduce jitter into my games

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I think I may know what's going on.

 

Since you got a game running on Full screen (GPU running at full 3D speeds), and a YouTube video  / stream running on a second monitor (lower 2D speeds), it may be getting confused and alternating back-and-fourth.

 

New GPUs will have three different "profiles" set into the BIOS. This applies to both AMD and NVidia GPUs.

Idle -- Very low Core and Memory frequency to save power (150MHz / 300MHz etc)

2D speed -- Almost like the half-way frequencies, enough so videos won't stutter (i.e. 400MHz / 500MHz)

3D speed -- Full work mode (1000MHz / 1200MHz)

 

Monitor your GPU activity, the Core clock and Memory clock on the GPU. If you notice it spiking up and down, then it's probably switching back-and-fourth between 2D and 3D.

 

Report back with your findings, and we can look deeper into this issue.

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Chrome does this. Fullscreen or windowed or borderless in the game does not matter. It's a problem inherently caused by chrome. I don't know if firefox causes it, because due to the fact that right clicking on firefox video freezes the browser, I refuse to use firefox.

 

Honestly? Try using IE and see if it works.

 

But I can guarantee chrome is the cause.

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I think I may know what's going on.

 

Since you got a game running on Full screen (GPU running at full 3D speeds), and a YouTube video  / stream running on a second monitor (lower 2D speeds), it may be getting confused and alternating back-and-fourth.

 

New GPUs will have three different "profiles" set into the BIOS. This applies to both AMD and NVidia GPUs.

Idle -- Very low Core and Memory frequency to save power (150MHz / 300MHz etc)

2D speed -- Almost like the half-way frequencies, enough so videos won't stutter (i.e. 400MHz / 500MHz)

3D speed -- Full work mode (1000MHz / 1200MHz)

 

Monitor your GPU activity, the Core clock and Memory clock on the GPU. If you notice it spiking up and down, then it's probably switching back-and-fourth between 2D and 3D.

 

Report back with your findings, and we can look deeper into this issue.

 

Also not quite the case. Stable core clock & memory clock, still have jitter.

Maybe with my 4790k this will go away, gonna be installing it later today granted UPS doesn't fail to deliver.

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4790k didn't change anything, i'm thinking it might just be a stutter issue with one monitor set at 144hz and the other at 60hz, while running something on the 60hz monitor it seems to make my main 144hz stutter/jitter

 

either way 4790k is a nice upgrade so i'm happy. i just don't want to tune my main monitor down just so i can watch stuff on my other monitor while gaming :C first world problems

 

time to get another vg248qe? :P

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4790k didn't change anything, i'm thinking it might just be a stutter issue with one monitor set at 144hz and the other at 60hz, while running something on the 60hz monitor it seems to make my main 144hz stutter/jitter

 

either way 4790k is a nice upgrade so i'm happy. i just don't want to tune my main monitor down just so i can watch stuff on my other monitor while gaming :C first world problems

 

time to get another vg248qe? :P

 

Chrome does this. Fullscreen or windowed or borderless in the game does not matter. It's a problem inherently caused by chrome. I don't know if firefox causes it, because due to the fact that right clicking on firefox video freezes the browser, I refuse to use firefox.

 

Honestly? Try using IE and see if it works.

 

But I can guarantee chrome is the cause.

Good lord you people can't read.

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Good lord you people can't read.

 

 

chrome isn't causing it, i already tried other browsers.

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Does IE do it? Does VLC do it? 

 

Yes to both. Any/everything on my second monitor that requires a frame update creates the jitter I'm talking about

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