Full windows OS Phones means we do not need middle of the Range crappy laptops

[mohgames]

i Don't see why they can't make a phone with an atom 4 Core CPU with the Tegra K1/X1 GPU and a full windows OS , the atom will use its GPU in 2D apps and in 3D app uses  the Tegra Chip , a curved 5.5inch phone with 4200 MAmp battery is very doable , also with a mini HDMI or with a Dock (screen + keyboard ) you can turn your phone into a full work PC that can do stuff , even play some games , cause the Tegra X1 GPU is faster than the PS3 and Xbox360 combined

 

3 to 5 watts

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-APQ8084-SoC.108360.0.html

2.2 watts

http://ark.intel.com/products/80274/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3735F-2M-Cache-up-to-1_83-GHz

[Kyuubixchidori]

issue is battery. a x86 chip will rip though any phone battery. Look at your phones battery, then look at a laptops. 

 

then next comes cooling, we are getting close, but not quite there yet. passive cooling is a huge step away from any kind of actual cooling. 

 

you cant just look at Mamp hours, because it changes based on voltage I believe. for example, a 3.7 volt phone battery 1200mah will be diffrent then a 12v 1200mah battery. 

[farhanorakzai]

battery and cooling issues. you wouldn't want your phone ro sound like a blow dryer 

[mohgames]

we already have atom Tablets that runs Full winnows OS  , why not phones

[mohgames]

http://www.ebuyer.com/664723-linx-7-windows-8-tablet-pc-linx7

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+Z3735G+%40+1.33GHz

[mohgames]

we already have atom Tablets that runs Full winnows OS  , why not phones

http://www.ebuyer.com/664723-linx-7-windows-8-tablet-pc-linx7

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+Z3735G+%40+1.33GHz

 

issue is battery. a x86 chip will rip though any phone battery. Look at your phones battery, then look at a laptops. 

 

then next comes cooling, we are getting close, but not quite there yet. passive cooling is a huge step away from any kind of actual cooling. 

 

you cant just look at Mamp hours, because it changes based on voltage I believe. for example, a 3.7 volt phone battery 1200mah will be diffrent then a 12v 1200mah battery. 

[Thebman712]

we already have atom Tablets that runs Full winnows OS  , why not phones

look at the size of phones- now look at the size of tablets

even the smallest like the dell venue 8 pro and the hp stream are alot larger than even the nexus 6

[mohgames]

heat seams the issue

[mohgames]

Then when we shrink to 14nm we should be able to make cooler more powerful atom Chips that can run on very low profile cooling , if we are at 4.4 watts now , we should say hit 3 watts on 14nm with 12% more horse Power , this should be as fast as many 250$ laptops out there

 

look at the size of phones- now look at the size of tablets

even the smallest like the dell venue 8 pro and the hp stream are alot larger than even the nexus 6

[CaptainWASD]

There is a fairly large market for mid range inexpensive laptops, believe it or not. Also I see battery being a HUGE issue for phones with those kinds of specs.

[Thebman712]

Then when we shrink to 14nm we should be able to make cooler more powerful atom Chips that can run on very low profile cooling , if we are at 4.4 watts now , we should say hit 3 watts on 14nm with 12% more horse Power , this should be as fast as many 250$ laptops out there

still, soo much of that will be eaten up by battery if you want specs like that.

tablets are near 4 times larger and thicker too

and 14nm wornt be that huge of a jump man, and its still a fair way out, plus a phone needs room for more gyroscopes, gps, and cellular devises than a tablet does

[trag1c]

We could most definitely run windows however the electrical energy to waste heat energy conversion ratio in a x86 based architecture is too high to be viable in limited form factor device since they will need a big battery and they will need either an active heat sink or a really big passive heat sink which would defeat the idea of limited form factor. 

[mohgames]

There is a fairly large market for mid range inexpensive laptops, believe it or not. Also I see battery being a HUGE issue for phones with those kinds of specs.

True but it would work on power saving mode if not plugged to a dock for example , the Z3735F is 4.4 watts full load , if two cores only used it is down to 2.2 watts .

a snap dragon s4 uses 4 watts so it is almost the same dude

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-APQ8064A-SoC.86878.0.html

http://ark.intel.com/products/80274/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3735F-2M-Cache-up-to-1_83-GHz

[mohgames]

Snap dragon 805 uses between 3 to 5 watts  so the Atom Z3735F that scores as good as a Celeron laptop CPU is not far of at 4.4 watts

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-APQ8084-SoC.108360.0.html

 

 

We could most definitely run windows however the electrical energy to waste heat energy conversion ratio in a x86 based architecture is too high to be viable in limited form factor device since they will need a big battery and they will need either an active heat sink or a really big passive heat sink which would defeat the idea of limited form factor. 

[mohgames]

Snap dragon 805 uses between 3 to 5 watts  so the Atom Z3735F that scores as good as a Celeron laptop CPU is not far of at 4.4 watts

http://www.notebookc...C.108360.0.html

still, soo much of that will be eaten up by battery if you want specs like that.

tablets are near 4 times larger and thicker too

and 14nm wornt be that huge of a jump man, and its still a fair way out, plus a phone needs room for more gyroscopes, gps, and cellular devises than a tablet does

[mohgames]

Cooling + Battery.

I don't see how this is true

 

3 to 5 watts

http://www.notebookc...C.108360.0.html

2.2 watts

http://ark.intel.com...-up-to-1_83-GHz

[mohgames]

issue is battery. a x86 chip will rip though any phone battery. Look at your phones battery, then look at a laptops. 

 

then next comes cooling, we are getting close, but not quite there yet. passive cooling is a huge step away from any kind of actual cooling. 

 

you cant just look at Mamp hours, because it changes based on voltage I believe. for example, a 3.7 volt phone battery 1200mah will be diffrent then a 12v 1200mah battery. 

This specific CPU consumes less than Snap Dragon 805 , battery is not a problem

 

3 to 5 watts

http://www.notebookc...C.108360.0.html

2.2 watts

http://ark.intel.com...-up-to-1_83-GHz

[mohgames]

I wonder if Linus thinks this is a good idea , he is crazy enough

i Don't see why they can't make a phone with an atom 4 Core CPU with the Tegra K1/X1 GPU and a full windows OS , the atom will use its GPU in 2D apps and in 3D app uses  the Tegra Chip , a curved 5.5inch phone with 4200 MAmp battery is very doable , also with a mini HDMI or with a Dock (screen + keyboard ) you can turn your phone into a full work PC that can do stuff , even play some games , cause the Tegra X1 GPU is faster than the PS3 and Xbox360 combined

 

3 to 5 watts

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-APQ8084-SoC.108360.0.html

2.2 watts

http://ark.intel.com/products/80274/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3735F-2M-Cache-up-to-1_83-GHz

[trag1c]

Snap dragon 805 uses between 3 to 5 watts  so the Atom Z3735F that scores as good as a Celeron laptop CPU is not far of at 4.4 watts

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-APQ8084-SoC.108360.0.html

That's a completely different architecture. ARM architecture d CPU's traditionally use less power and in turn output less heat but at the cost of performance where as x86 was the opposite. Also those numbers are also are an estimation in a perfect world scenario. I personally don't think we're far off though.