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contacts on the ram stick or on the mobo? or both.. becaue i don't think i can clean inside the ram slots with a erasor (or something else for that matter...

 

On the stick... Blow off any debris from the slot...

 

Do the same for the graphics card...

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hey guys,

been working on this seemingly broken system, from a few year back..

 

specs;

 

mobo: ASUS P5Q-E

Cpu: Core 2 duo something... (not quite sure, any way to know this for sure without it posting?)

Psu; Antec EA 500D (have tried with a different (confiremd working) psu so its very unlikely this is the issue)

Ram: it originally had a dual channel 4gb kit (CM2X2048-6400C4DHX) but i've tried switching this with another (8GB) kit (KVR400D2D8R3K2/4G)

I dont have any other hardware connected at the momen as im just trying to get it to post.

 

The exact issue;

nothing shows up on the monitor (vga on a HD 3650 512mb from asus)

the power led (on the front header) blinks about 2 times a second

all fans work

lights on the power and reset buttons on the mobo light up (so it is getting power)

no beeps at all

when the pc is "on" the cpu does heat up a bit but doesn't get extremely hot

gpu stays cold.

 

What i have tried;

 

replace ram

change gpu to different slot

change monitor to second output on the gpu

remove every unnecessary piece of hardware

place the whole system outside of the case

reseat the cpu

reset cmos (replace/ remove battery)

 

I am really out of ideas, does this mean its deffinetly a broken board or cpu? if so, is there any way to be sure which is the problem?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Pepe

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iI think it's a broken GPU... Try booting without the graphics card...

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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GPU is fucked imo.

 

Try using the onboard and check if flickering/vga works.

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iI think it's a broken GPU... Try booting without the graphics card...

 

 

GPU is fucked imo.

 

Try using the onboard and check if flickering/vga works.

the board doesnt have onboard graphis... so thats not possible i'll check with a different gpu (though this gpu did work in the system it was in before i think...)

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iI think it's a broken GPU... Try booting without the graphics card...

 

 

GPU is fucked imo.

 

Try using the onboard and check if flickering/vga works.

nope, the other gpu (that works 100%) didnt change anything... 

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nope, the other gpu (that works 100%) didnt change anything... 

 

pull out all the RAM, and GPU... boot... listen to beeps...

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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pull out all the RAM, and GPU... boot... listen to beeps...

looong short short loong short short

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pull out all the RAM, and GPU... boot... listen to beeps...

 

 

looong short short loong short short

this is "no memory detected" according to the manual...

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looong short short loong short short

 

 

this is "no memory detected" according to the manual...

 

Clean the contacts with a rubber eraser...

 

Put one stick in... boot and listen for beeps...

 

Test other stick the same way..

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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Clean the contacts with a rubber eraser...

 

Put one stick in... boot and listen for beeps...

 

Test other stick the same way..

contacts on the ram stick or on the mobo? or both.. becaue i don't think i can clean inside the ram slots with a erasor (or something else for that matter...

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contacts on the ram stick or on the mobo? or both.. becaue i don't think i can clean inside the ram slots with a erasor (or something else for that matter...

 

On the stick... Blow off any debris from the slot...

 

Do the same for the graphics card...

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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Clean the contacts with a rubber eraser...

 

Put one stick in... boot and listen for beeps...

 

Test other stick the same way..

which ever stick i use (tried both orginal ones and both replacements) there are no beeps whatshowever... i am using slot A1 (first yellow slot from the cpu)

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On the stick... Blow off any debris from the slot...

 

Do the same for the graphics card...

I AM ETERNALLY GRATEFULL!!! somehow this fixed it...

duno what exatly the issue was, but blowing in all the connectors and rubbing my nice eraser on everything made it post again... did take its time though...

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which ever stick i use (tried both orginal ones and both replacements) there are no beeps whatshowever... i am using slot A1 (first yellow slot from the cpu)

 

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I AM ETERNALLY GRATEFULL!!! somehow this fixed it...

duno what exatly the issue was, but blowing in all the connectors and rubbing my nice eraser on everything made it post again... did take its time though...

 

Np... I had the same problem on a P4 system... and the eraser trick fixed it...

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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Np... I had the same problem on a P4 system... and the eraser trick fixed it...

do you by any chance know if its possible to use 2.1V and 1.8V ram at the same time (2 dual kits) becasue i plan on using it as a server so more ram would be great

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do you by any chance know if its possible to use 2.1V and 1.8V ram at the same time (2 dual kits) becasue i plan on using it as a server so more ram would be great

 

unfortunately not... best create a thread for that in the proper section...

 

There are plenty more knowledgeable people in this forum...

 

My only advice would be checking the motherboard for compatibility...

Mutsuki:

CPU: AMD A8 5600K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 (rev. 1.0) | RAM: 2 x Kingston Low Profile 4GB 1333MHz | GPU: Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB DDR5 2xDVI | HDD0: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 3.5" (SATA II) | HDD1: WD Elements (WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA II) connected via USB 2.0 | HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm (SATA II) | DVD: Samsung DVD+RW combo drive | PSU: FSP Hexa 600W | Case: Aerocool PGS V | Cooling: DeepCool Gammaxx S40 (stock fan), 2x 120mm Aerocool fan 1xDeepCool 120mm fan from a scrapped heatsink

eMachines D732Z | CPU: Intel Pentium D P6100 | GPU: Intel HD 3000 | RAM: 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 1066MHz SODIMM | HDD: Hitachi 320GB 5600RPM

Acer ES13 | CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 | GPU:  Intel HD 505 | RAM: 1x 4GB (unidentified) DDR3L | HDD: (unidentified) 500GB 5600RPM

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unfortunately not... best create a thread for that in the proper section...

 

There are plenty more knowledgeable people in this forum...

 

My only advice would be checking the motherboard for compatibility...

k thanks, i know there are but if you knew that would just be as easy :P   Thanks again though!

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