Which CPU should I get?

[QuadNine]

 So I am torn between the 8350, and the i5 4670k. Now a lot of you guys are going to say the 4670k, but lemme tell you what I will be doing, I will be doing some content creation, so video editing, and video rendering, and also video streaming, and of course gaming. But my question is, how much worse (or better) is the mulicore performance of the 4670k(OC) compared to the 8320. The total cost is only 50$ more if I go with the i5.

also  please dont argue in this thread.
also would thise be a good OC ing mobo for the i5? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KRUX0V4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

also please keep in mind me willing to upgrade to an i7 later

[ThyFeared]

You can't OC on H97. Also I would not get the 4670K since it had heat issues so go for the 4690K. As for the 8350 it's an old power hungry platform but for what you're doing it's pretty damn good.

 

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DDR3-2600-Motherboards-GAMING/dp/B00K23BYBO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419959151&sr=8-1&keywords=Z97+Msi+gaming+3 <-- Good mobo

[thekeemo]

you will thank yourself for getting the 8350 when your rendering

[ThyFeared]

you will thank yourself for getting the 8350 when your rendering

I wish I had them 8 cores atm ;~;

[thekeemo]

I wish I had them 8 cores atm ;~;

3 days ago I finished a 40 second animation that took 120 hours to render on my i7-3820. video rendering takes almost nothing because it can use the GPU if you render in encoder

[QuadNine]

You can't OC on H97. Also I would not get the 4670K since it had heat issues so go for the 4690K. As for the 8350 it's an old power hungry platform but for what you're doing it's pretty damn good.

 

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DDR3-2600-Motherboards-GAMING/dp/B00K23BYBO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419959151&sr=8-1&keywords=Z97+Msi+gaming+3 <-- Good mobo

Ok, so should I go with the i5 or the 8320, also if the i5 is there any other mobo that is around 100$?

Also keep upgradability in mind

[Lotus]

For Gaming AND multi-tasking on a budget, this is my recommendation:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($71.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $314.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 12:17 EST-0500

 

It has the single-threaded performance of the i5 with even better multi-threaded performance than the FX. You can't overclock it, but it's still cheap and a great all-rounder. The downside is it doesn't have an iGPU, but since you're gaming and getting a dedicated GPU that doesn't matter anyway. Basically, the only reason to go something else would be if you can't fit this in. The E3-1230 V3 will work as well, but it's only like $5 cheaper right now for 100mhz less clock speed, so I'd choose the E3-1231 v3.

For comparisons sake, here is an FX build: (the cheapest FX-8350 build I'd ever consider)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($30.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $286.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 12:21 EST-0500

Basically, there's no reason to ever get the FX-8350 anymore. The only FX you might consider getting would be if you can barely fit in the 8320. The Xeon solution is only a tiny bit more expensive, and stomps all over it in terms of performance, even when you account for overclocking.

Edited December 30, 2014 by Lotus

[SteveGrabowski]

 So I am torn between the 8350, and the i5 4670k. Now a lot of you guys are going to say the 4670k, but lemme tell you what I will be doing, I will be doing some content creation, so video editing, and video rendering, and also video streaming, and of course gaming. But my question is, how much worse (or better) is the mulicore performance of the 4670k(OC) compared to the 8320. The total cost is only 50$ more if I go with the i5.

also  please dont argue in this thread.

also would thise be a good OC ing mobo for the i5? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KRUX0V4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

also please keep in mind me willing to upgrade to an i7 later

 

If the content creation is more important, go for the 8350. If gaming is more important, go for an i5-4690k. If you want to kill in both, buy a Xeon E3-1231v3 for $256 if you don't want to overclock or an i7-4790k $340.

[QuadNine]

For Gaming AND multi-tasking on a budget, this is my recommendation:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($71.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $314.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 12:17 EST-0500

 

It has the single-threaded performance of the i5 with even better multi-threaded performance than the FX. You can't overclock it, but it's still cheap and a great all-rounder. The downside is it doesn't have an iGPU, but since you're gaming and getting a dedicated GPU that doesn't matter anyway. Basically, the only reason to go something else would be if you can't fit this in. The E3-1230 V3 will work as well, but it's only like $5 cheaper right now for 100mhz less clock speed, so I'd choose this.

For comparisons sake, here is an FX build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.95 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($30.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $286.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 12:21 EST-0500

Basically, there's no reason to ever get the FX-8350 anymore, unless you can barely fit in the 8320. The Xeon solution is only a tiny bit more expensive, and stomps all over it in terms for performance, even when you account for overclocking.

My budget is really pushing it at the i5

 

If the content creation is more important, go for the 8350. If gaming is more important, go for an i5-4690k. If you want to kill in both, buy a Xeon E3-1231v3 for $256 if you don't want to overclock or an i7-4790k $340.

Would it be worth it to go with the 8350 now then get a new mobo and cpu for the i7, or get the i5 now and upgrade to the i7? cause right now it seems like the 8350 is being hinted too. I also will be streaming games, and video encoding while playing too.

[SteveGrabowski]

My budget is really pushing it at the i5

 

That Xeon is only $13 more than the unlocked i5's, which you will more than make up for by getting an H97 board instead of a Z97 one. I have never streamed games though, so I don't know if you'd need the integrated graphics an i5 or i7 has to do that (the Xeon doesn't have an IGP).

[Lotus]

That Xeon is only $13 more than the unlocked i5's, which you will more than make up for by getting an H97 board instead of a Z97 one. I have never streamed games though, so I don't know if you'd need the integrated graphics an i5 or i7 has to do that (the Xeon doesn't have an IGP).

 

This is accurate. Also, the dedicated GPU will be fine. I've streamed on an i7-920 (no iGPU on it) and it's flawless. Don't just look at the cost of the CPU. Look at the total platform cost. With an i5-4690k, you have to get a Z chipset motherboard and a CPU cooler. With the Xeon, you only need an H chipset motherboard, and you can use the stock cooler. The Xeon is actually cheaper than the i5 when you look at the total cost of the platform.

[QuadNine]

That Xeon is only $13 more than the unlocked i5's, which you will more than make up for by getting an H97 board instead of a Z97 one. I have never streamed games though, so I don't know if you'd need the integrated graphics an i5 or i7 has to do that (the Xeon doesn't have an IGP).

well, where I am getting the i5 and the 8350, the i5 is only 199$ and the 8350 is 150$, and I couldnt find the xeon that you are talking about. sp its 199$ (i5) and the 243$(xeon), also I am getting all the parts but the GPU which is an r9 280, so integrated graphics would be a plus, which you have to take in account for with the 8350 of me getting a crappy gpu to replace.

[QuadNine]

 

This is accurate. Also, the dedicated GPU will be fine. I've streamed on an i7-920 (no iGPU on it) and it's flawless. Don't just look at the cost of the CPU. Look at the total platform cost. With an i5-4690k, you have to get a Z chipset motherboard and a CPU cooler. With the Xeon, you only need an H chipset motherboard, and you can use the stock cooler. The Xeon is actually cheaper than the i5 when you look at the total cost of the platform.

Would I be able to OC on an z87 motherboard?

[Lotus]

Would I be able to OC on an z87 motherboard?

The i5-4690k wont run on a z87 motherboard unless you have had the bios update. The problem is you can't update the bios without a working CPU, and you can't get the CPU to work without a bios, so you'd be stuck with two parts that don't work together. Both the i5-4690k and the Xeon E3 1231 V3 require 9- series motherboards (Z97, H97) to work out of the box with no problems. The Z chipset boards supper K series overclocking, and the H series don't.

[QuadNine]

The i5-4690k wont run on a z87 motherboard unless you have had the bios update. The problem is you can't update the bios without a working CPU, and you can't get the CPU to work without a bios, so you'd be stuck with two parts that don't work together. Both the i5-4690k and the Xeon E3 1231 V3 require 9- series motherboards (Z97, H97) to work out of the box with no problems. The Z chipset boards supper K series overclocking, and the H series don't.

so is the 8350 out of the question? cause if so then I am really considering the i5

 Also how well will OC ing effect the performance

[Faceman]

The benefits in gaming will far outweight the faster render times.

 

You need a Z97 motherboard to overclock the unlocked i5s.

 

If you live near a Microcenter, buy them in-store there.

[QuadNine]

The benefits in gaming will far outweight the faster render times.

 

You need a Z97 motherboard to overclock the unlocked i5s.

 

If you live near a Microcenter, buy them in-store there.

That is exactly where I am getting this, such great deals. so the i5 so I can upgrade to an i7, or a xeon?

[Faceman]

That is exactly where I am getting this, such great deals. so the i5 so I can upgrade to an i7, or a xeon?

Yup.  Or just go for the i7 from the start.  I think its like $360 for the i7 + Asus Z97-AR which is a very good motherboard.  Or i5-4690k + Asus Z97-AR for $275

[QuadNine]

Yup.  Or just go for the i7 from the start.  I think its like $360 for the i7 + Asus Z97-AR which is a very good motherboard.  Or i5-4690k + Asus Z97-AR for $275

I really cant go with the i7, the i5 is already pushing the budget, so the i5 it is! would this mobo do the job for OC ing? http://www.microcenter.com/product/432993/GA-Z97-HD3_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

[Faceman]

I really cant go with the i7, the i5 is already pushing the budget, so the i5 it is! would this mobo do the job for OC ing? http://www.microcenter.com/product/432993/GA-Z97-HD3_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

Yea, but you should get the Asus Z97-AR because there is a fantastic combo deal of the i5-4690k + Asus Z97-AR.  The Asus motherboard is much better, not only in looks, but in features too.

[QuadNine]

Yea, but you should get the Asus Z97-AR because there is a fantastic combo deal of the i5-4690k + Asus Z97-AR.  The Asus motherboard is much better, not only in looks, but in features too.

ok cool, I found an complete open box at micro center for 99$ , worth it? it says its complete.

[Faceman]

ok cool, I found an complete open box at micro center for 99$ , worth it? it says its complete.

No, just get the bundle deal.  It ends up being less expensive, and you get a higher quality motherboard with better features and support.

[Scarymonkeys]

The Xeon is cheaper than the i5. If you're going to get an i5 and OC, you'll have to buy a CPU cooler plus a $110 z97. You could get the Xeon and a really cheap H97 and not overclock and have a much better CPU for multitasking.

(I have never tested any of these parts, and I can therefore never guarantee no faults.)

[Priller]

 So I am torn between the 8350, and the i5 4670k. Now a lot of you guys are going to say the 4670k, but lemme tell you what I will be doing, I will be doing some content creation, so video editing, and video rendering, and also video streaming, and of course gaming. But my question is, how much worse (or better) is the mulicore performance of the 4670k(OC) compared to the 8320. The total cost is only 50$ more if I go with the i5.

also  please dont argue in this thread.

also would thise be a good OC ing mobo for the i5? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KRUX0V4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

also please keep in mind me willing to upgrade to an i7 later

 

Can you wait until you can get the i7 to do a full build. I wouldn't waste money on switching CPUs. Just get the i7 now if possible.