Build for parents.

[joelthezombie15]

So I was making a plan for a build for my parents. as both there computers are starting to die. 

 

They really only surf the web and my dad watches movies. 

so they only really need a rig that will work and is cheap. 

 

So I made these plans thinking that they will keep it for like 7 years like they have with our current PC

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/joelthezombie15/saved/1NjN

 

Im not to good at Uber budget builds so is that any good? They need a good bit of storage and they wont appreciate the SSD so i left it out. They also want as small as possible so i thought matx was a pretty good fit. 

 

So is this good or can there be improvements? 

[defunkt]

At one point I was going to use this in a build for my mum: 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Biostar-A68I-350-Deluxe-E350-mITX/dp/B0098QHRBM/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1371565480&sr=8-7&keywords=biostar+motherboard

 

In a bitfenix prodigy. It has a APU and is perfect for watching films and just browsing such :)

[joelthezombie15]

At one point I was going to use this in a build for my mum: 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Biostar-A68I-350-Deluxe-E350-mITX/dp/B0098QHRBM/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1371565480&sr=8-7&keywords=biostar+motherboard

 

In a bitfenix prodigy. It has a APU and is perfect for watching films and just browsing such :)

Eww biostar. i wouldnt trust them with crap.

 

 

the only thing i would change is the CPU, go with a AMD quad core FX series.  More cores are better for multi tasking and may help in adding a few extra years to its lifespan.

Well, im trying to keep it low budget. 

[joelthezombie15]

just modified your config and did the quad core for less money.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17IdR

Ya i just chose a random case so, it could have been cheaper. thanks though

[TheIceCage]

Since it's for videos and web only, an APU would work just fine, wouldn't it?

 

Maybe you like it  ;)

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TheIceCage/saved/1Nkd

[TheIceCage]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TheIceCage/saved/#savedbuild_415592

 

Changed it so there are 2 RAM-sticks, since it's dualchannel.

[joelthezombie15]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TheIceCage/saved/#savedbuild_415592

 

Changed it so there are 2 RAM-sticks, since it's dualchannel.

Great, thanks i will bring it to them.

[JoshM]

Why a custom cooler?

[joelthezombie15]

Why a custom cooler?

Cause i just hate stock more than anything.

[JoshM]

Cause i just hate stock more than anything.

But if your not going to OC there is no point...

[joelthezombie15]

But if your not going to OC there is no point...

Well that is ONE of the many problem with our current one, it is stock and it has been over heating and the system freaks out.

[JoshM]

Well that is ONE of the many problem with our current one, it is stock and it has been over heating and the system freaks out.

Ok cause my dad has a stock cooler running on his PC, and he got it when 1156 first came out so at least 4 years straight and never misses a beat, just blow some compressed air through it once in a while...but if it makes you feel more comfortable that that's cool. 

[wkronbaek]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A4-5300 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)

Motherboard: Asus F2A55-M/CSM Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Outlet PC)

Memory: A-Data Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $315.90

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-20 07:32 EDT-0400)

Anything past this Will be overkill for interwebz/movies

Its not your gaming rig of all your pride, Stock cooler will run just fine

[WoodenMarker]

Since your parents aren't gaming and they want a pc to last a while, it'll be better to pour onto a better processor for overall usage. Intel is great for their faster cores.

 

Here's what I would do instead: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/18FR4

(and yes, I believe they wouldn't add an ssd if you asked them but the speed would be a pleasant surprise unless they're using linux.

[kirashi]

Well that is ONE of the many problem with our current one, it is stock and it has been over heating and the system freaks out.

What is there current system? Intel or AMD? This doesn't apply to all CPU's or models, but most of the time I've found Intel's stock coolers to not really handle OC'ing over time very well at all; even just regular CPU speeds and it heats up unless you go aftermarket. I've been running an AMD Athlon II X4 620 @3.12GHz (Quad-Core, Stock speed is 2.6GHz) with the stock cooler/fan for almost 3 years now, and it idles/web browses at 30-35C normally. I've only ever pushed it to 57C when I was doing video encoding. 

[WoodenMarker]

What is there current system? Intel or AMD? This doesn't apply to all CPU's or models, but most of the time I've found Intel's stock coolers to not really handle OC'ing over time very well at all; even just regular CPU speeds and it heats up unless you go aftermarket. I've been running an AMD Athlon II X4 620 @3.12GHz (Quad-Core, Stock speed is 2.6GHz) with the stock cooler/fan for almost 3 years now, and it idles/web browses at 30-35C normally. I've only ever pushed it to 57C when I was doing video encoding. 

That's awkward for the stock intel cooler. I find that temps are still very good as long as the case cooling is adequate.

[kirashi]

That's awkward for the stock intel cooler. I find that temps are still very good as long as the case cooling is adequate.

Well OK, you do have a point. Most of the Intel builds I've ever done have been in small cases, no dust filters, single fan, etc. El cheapo cases if you will, so that probably doesn't help much.

[wkronbaek]

Tried fitting a ssd into the budget, even an i3 will be overkill for interwebz.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD A4-3300 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($37.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard:  Asus F1A55-M LE R2.0 Micro ATX  FM1 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($34.98 @ NCIX US) 

Storage:  Crucial V4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($61.68 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer  ($14.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $324.60

[qwertywarrior]

buy this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128585

the 847 cpu from intel is much faster than any APU or ATOM cpu

or the 1007U from intel

which is even faster than both of them

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-Chipset-Motherboards-GA-C1007UN-D/dp/B00D1A8094/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1371812818&sr=8-15&keywords=1007u+intel

a D2700 is at 841 points

the 1007u is at 1600 points

the E-450 APU is at 900 points

[wkronbaek]

buy this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128585

the 847 cpu from intel is much faster than any APU or ATOM cpu

or the 1007U from intel

which is even faster than both of them

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-Chipset-Motherboards-GA-C1007UN-D/dp/B00D1A8094/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1371812818&sr=8-15&keywords=1007u+intel

Are you trolling or do you just not have a clue about this?

[qwertywarrior]

Are you trolling or do you just not have a clue about this?

core values of the forum's code of conduct

• Ensure a friendly atmosphere to our visitors and forum members

 

if you think there is something wrong with my suggestion

i will need more than "you just not have a clue about this"

[wkronbaek]

core values of the forum's code of conduct

• Ensure a friendly atmosphere to our visitors and forum members

 

if you think there is something wrong with my suggestion

i will need more than "you just not have a clue about this"

I was asking, sorry

 

But a 2.5 GHZ Apu is quite obviously better than a 1 ghz Cpu. 

The fact you benchmark them via Points (Which is a value that is non-existant for CPU's BTW) and compare the 1007 to a notebook cpu that was pretty bad 2-3 years ago make you seem kinda ignorant. 

Try just looking at the product suggested before saying if it's worse or better than another product

[qwertywarrior]

I was asking, sorry

But a 2.5 GHZ Apu is quite obviously better than a 1 ghz Cpu.

The fact you benchmark them via Points (Which is a value that is non-existant for CPU's BTW) and compare the 1007 to a notebook cpu that was pretty bad 2-3 years ago make you seem kinda ignorant.

Try just looking at the product suggested before saying if it's worse or better than another product

no problem i really want this forum to get better for everyone

1007U from intel was released in Q1 2013

Scroll to the bottom

1007U

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+1007U+%40+1.50GHz

highest 1621

A4- 3300

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A4-3300+APU&id=13

highest 1750

1007U's TDP is at 17 watts

while the 3300 is at 65 watts

 

EDIT:when i was saying worse or better i was talking about APUs (e-450 ) and atoms D2700

sorry for the confusion

[wkronbaek]

no problem i really want this forum to get better for everyone

1007U from intel was released in Q1 2013

Scroll to the bottom

1007U

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+1007U+%40+1.50GHz

highest 1621

A4- 3300

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A4-3300+APU&id=13

highest 1750

1007U's TDP is at 17 watts

while the 3300 is at 65 watts

 

EDIT:when i was saying worse or better i was talking about APUs (e-450 ) and atoms D2700

sorry for the confusion

The TDP i because 1007U is a notebook CPU, not a desktop one

Didn't quite see that before

[qwertywarrior]

The TDP i because 1007U is a notebook CPU, not a desktop one

Didn't quite see that before

 

the 1007u is well hidden the only reason i heard about it was because Nas builders wanted something faster than the Atom cores but still low power

it seems only Gigabyte and a few small companies are selling these boards

they are quite powerful