Same temps with or without side panel

[Doughnutnator]

Hi! I have this system;

i5 4570 (stock crappy intel cooler)

G1 Gaming GTX 970

Cooler Master V550

Corsair Spec-02 Case

Fans:

- Intake: 1 Cooler master SickleFlow and 1 Corsair Airflow (it's the one that came with the case, it looks a lot like the airflow fans). Both fans are 120mm

- Exhaust: 1 Corsair Airflow (same as the intake fan) 120mm

Now, my GPU in benchmarks gets pretty darn hot, reaching 69-70°C.

One day I was running 3D Mark FireStrike, I saw that it reached 69°C. Stopped the benchmark, removed side panel and started the benchmark again. But the temps were the same!

It isn't supposed to lower the temps? Or what that means?

Thanks

[Fate]

If your card already has plenty of airflow it probably won't make a difference. 

[Godlygamer23]

What do your video card fans hit?

[Archangel1994]

69C is not high at all for benchmarks. You are too concerned :3

[Doughnutnator]

What do your video card fans hit?

Do you mean RMP or fan speed? It seems that the stock fan curve is 1% per °C. So at 65°C the fan is usually running in the 64-66% range.

[Doughnutnator]

If your card already has plenty of airflow it probably won't make a difference.

So that means that the place where my PC is doesn't have enough airflow or my ambient temps are too high?

[Liam-McShane]

Shouldn't ever really make a difference. Either way 69c is not hot for a GPU. Nvidia cards like to keep themselves below 80c usually, even then they have much more headroom in them.

[Doughnutnator]

69C is not high at all for benchmarks. You are too concerned :3

Do you think so? In all the reviews the card hits 60°C at max. I know that they have cold ambient temps, but the GPU is getting hot even when my butt gets icy.

[Doughnutnator]

Shouldn't ever really make a difference. Either way 69c is not hot for a GPU. Nvidia cards like to keep themselves below 80c usually, even then they have much more headroom in them.

So my airflow is fine?

[Fate]

So that means that the place where my PC is doesn't have enough airflow or my ambient temps are too high?

Your airflow sounds fine, what are your ambient temps? (69c isn't hot for a GPU anyways).

[Profquast]

Why do people think anything below 80 degrees is a high temp? GPU's are designed to operate at higher temps than CPU's.

[Profquast]

Do you think so? In all the reviews the card hits 60°C at max. I know that they have cold ambient temps, but the GPU is getting hot even when my butt gets icy.

Keep in mind benchmarks are done on an open testbench, there is no way a card will be the same temp inside a case.

[Godlygamer23]

My 970(Windforce) running at 1.467GHz on the Core hit 75C with fan speeds at 60%(constant). I used Unigine Heaven 4.0 as my benchmark.

[Doughnutnator]

Your airflow sounds fine, what are your ambient temps? (69c isn't hot for a GPU anyways).

Hmm outside is like 20, but we don't like cold weather in my house, so I guess that 25-30 at max...

[soup]

It isn't supposed to lower the temps?

 

Not necessarily.  The system is designed to work optimally with the side on and all the shrouds in position etc.  Removing the side will take it out of this 'designed' state.  Usually there is better acess to 'fresh air' BUT the flow can be the same OR EVEN WORSE.  Part of the "having sides on all expansion slot covers in place etc used to be for FCC (?)compliance on electrical noise so even if the temps are unaffected running with the sides of may make the unit electricaly noisy (not a huge problem for individual users but if a case was sold leaking like that...).

 

Anocdote:-

  I used to have a BTX motherboard which actually had a shroud over the processor heat sink so the case fan actually drew air over it doing away with the need for a CPU fan, needless to say if someone (who didn't know better) had removed this shroud to 'improve' the units cooling would quickly cook the CPU

[beginnerpcbuilder]

why are you not ganna wathercool your pc it's make a big diffrence. or use a other cpu cooler

[Godlygamer23]

Not necessarily.  The system is designed to work optimally with the side on and all the shrouds in position etc.  Removing the side will take it out of this 'designed' state.  Usually there is better acess to 'fresh air' BUT the flow can be the same OR EVEN WORSE.  Part of the "having sides on all expansion slot covers in place etc used to be for FCC (?)compliance on electrical noise so even if the temps are unaffected running with the sides of may make the unit electricaly noisy (not a huge problem for individual users but if a case was sold leaking like that...).

 

Anocdote:-

  I used to have a BTX motherboard which actually had a shroud over the processor heat sink so the case fan actually drew air over it doing away with the need for a CPU fan, needless to say if someone (who didn't know better) had removed this shroud to 'improve' the units cooling would quickly cook the CPU

Was it a plastic shroud? I had a Dell PC with something similar. It created this little section that the heat would sit in while the exhaust fan pulled it out.

[Doughnutnator]

Not necessarily. The system is designed to work optimally with the side on and all the shrouds in position etc. Removing the side will take it out of this 'designed' state. Usually there is better acess to 'fresh air' BUT the flow can be the same OR EVEN WORSE. Part of the "having sides on all expansion slot covers in place etc used to be for FCC (?)compliance on electrical noise so even if the temps are unaffected running with the sides of may make the unit electricaly noisy (not a huge problem for individual users but if a case was sold leaking like that...).

Anocdote:-

I used to have a BTX motherboard which actually had a shroud over the processor heat sink so the case fan actually drew air over it doing away with the need for a CPU fan, needless to say if someone (who didn't know better) had removed this shroud to 'improve' the units cooling would quickly cook the CPU

Ohhh you're right. I will leave it like that then. Like they said, it's not that high. And the card gets to 69°C when it's overclocked to 1.5Ghz and 8Ghz. One guy of the forum told me that the temp was way too high and that I should check my airflow.

[Doughnutnator]

Keep in mind benchmarks are done on an open testbench, there is no way a card will be the same temp inside a case.

That's why I thought that removing the side panel would reduce temos but it seems that I was completely wrong

[Godlygamer23]

Ohhh you're right. I will leave it like that then. Like they said, it's not that high. And the card gets to 69°C when it's overclocked to 1.5Ghz and 8Ghz. One guy of the forum told me that the temp was way too high and that I should check my airflow.

You didn't mention overclocks. That's important to mention. Your temps are perfect.

[Doughnutnator]

You didn't mention overclocks. That's important to mention. Your temps are perfect.

Sorry anyways the difference isn't that much, only 2-3C° Between stock and 1.5Ghz/8Ghz

[Doughnutnator]

Why do people think anything below 80 degrees is a high temp? GPU's are designed to operate at higher temps than CPU's.

Because the 970 (at least mine) throttles voltage when reaching 70°C. I don't know why, it's a GPU Boost bug. That's why I want to keep temps down.

[soup]

Was it a plastic shroud? I had a Dell PC with something similar.

Yup was plastic.

 

Quite possibly a Dell.  Shall look later [1]

 

 

[1] Donated it to No2 son ,he has it in his room to play his driving games[he has learning difficulties and is quite 'into' ($eity I hate that phrase) transport so Euro truck simulator  +II, Bus simulator etc, but because he would have difficulty knowing friends from someone who is trolling online there is no internet connection so he can't Facebook, go into chat rooms etc