Help a confused Noob

[5h4un]

Hey guys,

 

Ive been planning on building a gaming PC, but keep running around in circles.

 

This would be my first gaming pc, mostly for gaming, web surfing and some light 3D rendering.

 

I want to spend around $800. Im most confused by the MB and GPU.

 

What would be an acceptable MB to use in a budget build?

 

And in terms of GPUs, Im looking for something that would give decent FPS @ 1080p. No need for 4K capabilities any time soon.

 

 

This would be within my budget, but would the GPU be enough or would I need to look at something better?

http://www.evetech.co.za/Computer-systems/intel-core-i5-quad-core-gtx-750-dx11-custom-built-gaming-pc-238.aspx

 

Im from South Africa, so all parts cost more this side, sometimes quite substantially  

 

Im open to advice and all help is welcome. 

The build can be AMD or Intel.

Only looking to build the tower, as I have all the other peripherals (incl OS) 

[Mao_Zedong]

No! don't get a prebuilt!!! That pc will have trouble with meh-high 1080p.

[Guest]

Gpu in that configuration is bad just bad. (for that money)

Whats the price of r9 270 in your area?

[5h4un]

No! don't get a prebuilt!!! That pc will have trouble with meh-high 1080p.

Definitely dont want to buy a prebuilt, just using it as a guideline  

Want to build it myself

[connord1997]

For a GPU you should look for a R9 270 definitely, good performance and good price can pick up in the US for around $190 

[5h4un]

Gpu in that configuration is bad just bad. (for that money)

Whats the price of r9 270 in your area

 

Between $250 - $280 depending on distributor. 

[Guest]

Between $250 - $280 depending on distributor. 

Same here in Serbia... I will try to make you one build and you will check prices in your area

[Guest]

Check prices on these:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4360 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($79.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.59 @ Directron)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $610.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:01 EST-0500

[Mistersprinkles]

BUILD IT YOURSELF! It is SO easy. I have my build times down to under 30 minutes for a computer now I've built so many. It's just so damn easy. 

[5h4un]

Check prices on these:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4360 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($79.89 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.59 @ Directron)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($159.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $610.42

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:01 EST-0500

 

Thanks for all the reply's.

 

Is there performance difference between the r9 270 and the r9 280X worth the extra money? Or would the 270 be enough? 

[Guest]

Thanks for all the reply's.

 

Is there performance difference between the r9 270 and the r9 280X worth the extra money? Or would the 270 be enough? 

There is difference ant it should be up to you if you want more performance. Will you buy components online or in shop? If in shop you should ask them to update bios on motherboard so you could use that cpu.

[5h4un]

There is difference ant it should be up to you if you want more performance. Will you buy components online or in shop? If in shop you should ask them to update bios on motherboard so you could use that cpu.

 

 

All of them would be bought online, but im sure I could get them to update it for me. 

[Guest]

All of them would be bought online, but im sure I could get them to update it for me. 

Than go for it

[5h4un]

After searching the net some more, I spoke to someone who sent me this..

 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/gigabyte-motherboard/products/gigabyte-h81m-ds2-h81-express-chipset-socket-lga1150-supports-4th-generation-intel-core-pentium-and-celeron-processors 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/intel-cpu/products/intel-core-i5-4590-3-30ghz-quad-core-socket-1150-6mb-l3-dmi-bus-22nm-x64-intel-vt-intel-hd-graphics-4600-350mhz-3-year-warranty 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-memory/products/corsair-vengeance-pro-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-kit-2x-4gb-black-silver-vengeance-pro-heatspreader-9-9-9-24-latency-240-pin-dimm-1-5v-xmp-1-3-profiles-included 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/products/seagate-desktop-hdd-500gb-st500dm002 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/sapphire/products/sapphire-r9-270x-vapor-x-edition-with-dual-fan-support-4x-displayswith-dp-28nm-2gb-256bit-4-channel-ddr5-32rops-179-2gb-sec-memory-bandwidth-1280-stream-processors 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-power-supplies/products/corsair-builder-series-csm650-650w-modular-power-supply-80plus-gold-certified 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/products/liteon-24-speed-dvd-super-all-write-sata-24x-r-r-8x-r-r-dl-8x-rw-6x-rw-12x-ram-16x-dvd-48xcdr-24x-rw-black-oem-packaging 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-chassis/products/corsair-spec-series-01-chassis-atx-compact-gaming-chassis-2x-5-25-4x-3-5-2-5-bays-1x-front-mounted-120mm-fan-no-psu-i-o-1x-usb-3-0-1x-usb-2-0-1x-headphone-1x-mic-power-reset 
 

 

Think its $30 more than my budget, which isnt a problem.

What do you guy think? 

Would this be a good first PC?

[Rebelattack]

Looks really good, I would have gotten a 1 Tb HDD but if you think 500 Gb would be enough then go for it all the parts look good.

[5h4un]

Will definitely go for the 1TB, and then will eventually get an SSD...

[Redpalmtree]

After searching the net some more, I spoke to someone who sent me this..

 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/gigabyte-motherboard/products/gigabyte-h81m-ds2-h81-express-chipset-socket-lga1150-supports-4th-generation-intel-core-pentium-and-celeron-processors 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/intel-cpu/products/intel-core-i5-4590-3-30ghz-quad-core-socket-1150-6mb-l3-dmi-bus-22nm-x64-intel-vt-intel-hd-graphics-4600-350mhz-3-year-warranty 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-memory/products/corsair-vengeance-pro-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-kit-2x-4gb-black-silver-vengeance-pro-heatspreader-9-9-9-24-latency-240-pin-dimm-1-5v-xmp-1-3-profiles-included 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/products/seagate-desktop-hdd-500gb-st500dm002 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/sapphire/products/sapphire-r9-270x-vapor-x-edition-with-dual-fan-support-4x-displayswith-dp-28nm-2gb-256bit-4-channel-ddr5-32rops-179-2gb-sec-memory-bandwidth-1280-stream-processors 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-power-supplies/products/corsair-builder-series-csm650-650w-modular-power-supply-80plus-gold-certified 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/products/liteon-24-speed-dvd-super-all-write-sata-24x-r-r-8x-r-r-dl-8x-rw-6x-rw-12x-ram-16x-dvd-48xcdr-24x-rw-black-oem-packaging 

http://www.jtekconnect.co.za/collections/corsair-chassis/products/corsair-spec-series-01-chassis-atx-compact-gaming-chassis-2x-5-25-4x-3-5-2-5-bays-1x-front-mounted-120mm-fan-no-psu-i-o-1x-usb-3-0-1x-usb-2-0-1x-headphone-1x-mic-power-reset 

 

 

Think its $30 more than my budget, which isnt a problem.

What do you guy think? 

Would this be a good first PC?

I think the 4590 i5 is a bit overkill if you put it next to a 270x

 

I recently build a pc with a 4570 i5 and a r9 280 and I still feel it isn't quite right. In my opinion your processor would be best balanced by a 285, 280x or 290.

For the money on that psu you can probably get a 550w gold certified seasonic, it's better in my opinion.

consider upgrading to 16gb's later on, and get an ssd eventually

[5h4un]

Thanks for the info

 

Ill look into a 280X, I think its about $50 more than the 270X on my side of the planet... 

Would I not need a 650w for either a 270 or 280X?

[Redpalmtree]

Thanks for the info

 

Ill look into a 280X, I think its about $50 more than the 270X on my side of the planet... 

Would I not need a 650w for either a 270 or 280X?

It's worth the extra 50 dollars

for a 270, 270x, 280, 285, a 550w is enough. For a 280x.... I'd say 580w, but 550w may suffice too. 

[5h4un]

R9-280X it is then B)

 

Based on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqThn3C-zg4 (oh yeah, thats right.. I Linus video) and this http://coolermaster.outervision.com/PSUEngine2 , I would only need around 470watts. So it would seem a 550w would suffice 

[5h4un]

It's worth the extra 50 dollars

for a 270, 270x, 280, 285, a 550w is enough. For a 280x.... I'd say 580w, but 550w may suffice too. 

 

R9-280X it is then  B)

 

Based on 

 (oh yeah, thats right.. A Linus video) and this http://coolermaster.....com/PSUEngine2 , I would only need around 470watts. So it would seem a 550w would suffice