which build?

[potatopLays]

can i OC with build CPU and mobo? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vcZMmG or should i switch to a xeon with hyperthread? and which would be better for gaming?

[JoaoPRSousa]

can i OC with build CPU and mobo? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vcZMmG or should i switch to a xeon with hyperthread? and which would be better for gaming?

1. No you cant.

2. The Xeon is locked

3. 4690k? IDK

[potatopLays]

1. No you cant.

2. The Xeon is locked

3. 4690k? IDK

no can i overclock the 4690k on that motherboard?

[JoaoPRSousa]

no can i overclock the 4690k on that motherboard?

No.

[potatopLays]

No.

so should i switch out for a hyperthread xeon?

[JoaoPRSousa]

so should i switch out for a hyperthread xeon?

 

IDK, wait a bit, Im making a build for you

 

Give me a budget please

[Deserter15]

You need at least a h97 or a z97 motherboard in order to overclock on that processor

[Deserter15]

Just pay $14 more for this mobo. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary

[potatopLays]

IDK, wait a bit, Im making a build for you

 

Give me a budget please

650-700 USD

[JoaoPRSousa]

650-700 USD

 

Do you want to OC?

Its not really necessary though...

[potatopLays]

Do you want to OC?

Its not really necessary though...

im willing to do OC but it doesnt have it

[JoaoPRSousa]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($71.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $711.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:31 EST-0500

 

Or

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-UP4 ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($84.23 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $735.13

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:33 EST-0500

[potatopLays]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($71.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $711.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:31 EST-0500

 

Or

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-UP4 ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($84.23 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $735.13

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:33 EST-0500

 

are you sure those wont be bottle neck? like are you sure?

[Lotus]

If you can spend just a little bit more than $700, I'd do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($252.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $718.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:33 EST-0500

 

 

Otherwise, I'd get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($171.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $637.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:34 EST-0500

None of these prices rely on rebates. However, they do require you to pick up the CPU from a Micro Center, which should be easy unless you don't live near one. If you include rebates, the prices can go down even further.

[Fate]

are you sure those wont be bottle neck? like are you sure?

Those builds will bottleneck 

[JoaoPRSousa]

are you sure those wont be bottle neck? like are you sure?

 

With Athlon Im not sure, but the Pentium wont

[Lotus]

are you sure those wont be bottle neck? like are you sure?

Both of those will hit CPU bottlenecks depending on the game. The G3258 will hit CPU bottlenecks on multi-threaded games, and quite frankly will refuse to play certain games like COD:AW without a mod. The X4 860k will bottleneck any game that needs good single-threaded performance, and even some games that need good multi-threaded performance. Really they're not good CPUs and shouldn't be in builds this expensive. I would avoid these pairings. Only go with one of those CPUs if you're on an extreme budget (sub $400).

[potatopLays]

If you can spend just a little bit more than $700, I'd do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($252.00 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron)

Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $718.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:33 EST-0500

 

 

Otherwise, I'd get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($171.00 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Directron)

Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $637.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:34 EST-0500

None of these prices rely on rebates. However, they do require you to pick up the CPU from a Micro Center, which should be easy unless you don't live near one. If you include rebates, the prices can go down 

 

With Athlon Im not sure, but the Pentium wont

what about this? no ssd though

 

even further. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cPJKkL

[JoaoPRSousa]

Those builds will bottleneck 

 

No, they wont.

The G3258 only will at stock, and it is meant to OC, as you can get 4Ghz with the stock cooler.

About the 860K its a whole different story about the OC. But with ease, you can get 4.4GHz, and this way, even at stock, it wouldnt bottleneck

[JoaoPRSousa]

I would avoid these pairings.

 

CRY NO MORE

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $765.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:40 EST-0500

 

[Fate]

No, they wont.

The G3258 only will at stock, and it is meant to OC, as you can get 4Ghz with the stock cooler.

About the 860K its a whole different story about the OC. But with ease, you can get 4.4GHz, and this way, even at stock, it wouldnt bottleneck

The G3258 isn't meant for high end GPU's even when it's overclocked. There's plenty of threads explaining why it's a bad idea. It will 'bottleneck' in CPU intensive games. 

[Lotus]

No, they wont.

The G3258 only will at stock, and it is meant to OC, as you can get 4Ghz with the stock cooler.

About the 860K its a whole different story about the OC. But with ease, you can get 4.4GHz, and this way, even at stock, it wouldnt bottleneck

People have tested these CPUs and have hit bottlenecks in different games. Show us the G3258 playing COD:AW without bottlenecking an R9 290. You can't. Same for the X4 860k: it will bottleneck many RPGs and other single-threaded games. BOTH WILL bottleneck, just on different games.

[JoaoPRSousa]

The G3258 isn't meant for high end GPU's even when it's overclocked. There's plenty of threads explaining why it's a bad idea. It will 'bottleneck' in CPU intensive games. 

 

People have tested these CPUs and have hit bottlenecks in different games. Show us the G3258 playing COD:AW without bottlenecking an R9 290. You can't. Same for the X4 860k: it will bottleneck many RPGs and other single-threaded games. BOTH WILL bottleneck, just on different games.

 

Check my latest build. Happy?

 

:lol:

[Lotus]

 

CRY NO MORE

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Directron) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($222.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $765.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-20 14:40 EST-0500

 

 

That will still bottleneck certain games that need good single-threaded performance. More cores =/ better performance in games that are thread limited. This is why Intel is the best choice at this price range. If you can afford an i5 in a gaming machine, you should go with an i5 in a gaming machine. Period.

[Fate]

Check my latest build. Happy?

 

:lol:

I'd much rather have a locked i5 for gaming.