Recommendation in cpu and memory

[fusilero75]

Hi im trying to build my own pc for gaming without over passing $1500 and I have some questions about it:

 

1. Will an i5-4690k be enough?

2. 2x4GB Ram or 2x8Gb Ram?

3. Do I buy one GTX 980 or dual gtx 970 so i make a sli?

 

This is my configuration for the moment: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XTGYbv

 

Thanks

[LemonSpice]

Hi im trying to build my own pc for gaming without over passing $1500 and I have some questions about it:

 

1. Will an i5-4690k be enough?

2. 2x4GB Ram or 2x8Gb Ram?

3. Do I buy one GTX 980 or dual gtx 970 so i make a sli?

 

This is my configuration for the moment: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XTGYbv

 

Thanks

if you can do 970 sli and 16gb that would be best

[Aniallation]

This is my configuration for the moment: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XTGYbv

If you're just gaming, save the money and get 8GB of RAM. 

 

The Crucial MX100 and ADATA SP610 are better choices then the 840 EVO.

 

Please do not get a Corsair RM PSU. They are not great units. Get something that's actually worth the money, like a Rosewill Capstone, Seasonic G, or EVGA G2.

[i_build_nanosuits]

If you're just gaming, save the money and get 8GB of RAM. 

 

The Crucial MX100 and ADATA SP610 are better choices then the 840 EVO.

 

Please do not get a Corsair RM PSU. They are not great units. Get something that's actually worth the money, like a Rosewill Capstone, Seasonic G, or EVGA G2.

the corsair RM series are VERY good psu's...just saying

[Aniallation]

the corsair RM series are VERY good psu's...just saying

I'm not even going to start on this. If you think that the RM is a better performer then the Seasonic G or EVGA G2 (Super Flower Leadex) then don't even try to think you're right.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'm not even going to start on this. If you think that the RM is a better performer then the Seasonic G or EVGA G2 (Super Flower Leadex) then don't even try to think you're right.

no its not better than those but the RM are cheaper in some part of the world or maybe the op has a discount on it or something you dont even know...and the unit is perfectly fine to use, its vastly superior to the CX series and it's all japaneese caps.

a friend of mine is using the rm 650 and the fan on it is quiet and almost always off, only on when gaming and corsair link is a VERY nice and handy feature to have.

check reviews on it it's a top notch psu.

[Aniallation]

no its not better than those but the RM are cheaper in some part of the world or maybe the op has a discount on it or something you dont even know...and the unit is perfectly fine to use, its vastly superior to the CX series and it's all japaneese caps.

a friend of mine is using the rm 650 and the fan on it is quiet and almost always off, only on when gaming and corsair link is a VERY nice and handy feature to have.

There's an option to set price manually in PCPartPicker. 

 

And the Corsair RM is NOT all Japanese caps. That is just misleading information.

[Faceman]

Hi im trying to build my own pc for gaming without over passing $1500 and I have some questions about it:

 

1. Will an i5-4690k be enough?

2. 2x4GB Ram or 2x8Gb Ram?

3. Do I buy one GTX 980 or dual gtx 970 so i make a sli?

 

This is my configuration for the moment: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XTGYbv

 

Thanks

Here is a much better build:

 

Yes, i5-4690k will be enough, but you do have the budget to take it to the i7 if you want, but it is not necessary at all for gaming.  Do you live near Microcenter by chance?

8GB of RAM is all you need.

Buy a single 970 for now.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mLLX3C

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mLLX3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.94 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.99 @ Newegg) <-- Same performance, lower cost AIO without the mounting problems, noisy pump, or buggy software of the H100i.

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($117.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($75.99 @ Newegg) <-- Very good performance RAM for cheap.  Also matches your build.

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($369.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) <-- Worlds better case.  Get either the Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) <-- Much better and less expensive PSU.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) <-- Get Windows 8, not 7.

Total: $1293.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-16 20:17 EST-0500

[i_build_nanosuits]

There's an option to set price manually in PCPartPicker. 

 

And the Corsair RM is NOT all Japanese caps. That is just misleading information.

it's a very good psu:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-rm-650-watt-gold-psu-review,1.html

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=363

 

Johnny guru quote:

 

Summary

What we have here is a very good unit with some sweet features that should keep a modest gaming rig nice and quiet. It's efficient, it's stable, and it comes with a good warranty. If you happen to have a Corsair Link dongle on you, it can also tell you how fast the fan is running and how much 12V current it's putting out. There are a few things I would like to see improved, but for the most part this unit is a solid choice for those who care about quality power delivered with not a lot of fan noise. It's just too bad about the dead 5V wires. This unit would score better had it not been for that. But I can't ignore it, irrelevant to the performance as it may be. Folks, buy one of these in confidence. Just make sure your motherboard is using a 24 pin ATX connector first, and you should be just fine for years with one of these.

[Aniallation]

it's a very good psu:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-rm-650-watt-gold-psu-review,1.html

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=363

 

Johnny guru quote:

 

Summary

What we have here is a very good unit with some sweet features that should keep a modest gaming rig nice and quiet. It's efficient, it's stable, and it comes with a good warranty. If you happen to have a Corsair Link dongle on you, it can also tell you how fast the fan is running and how much 12V current it's putting out. There are a few things I would like to see improved, but for the most part this unit is a solid choice for those who care about quality power delivered with not a lot of fan noise. It's just too bad about the dead 5V wires. This unit would score better had it not been for that. But I can't ignore it, irrelevant to the performance as it may be. Folks, buy one of these in confidence. Just make sure your motherboard is using a 24 pin ATX connector first, and you should be just fine for years with one of these.

That does not state anything to prove what you said that it has all Japanese caps (which it doesn't)

 

It's by no means a bad PSU, but there undoubtedly are better power supplies for the money. There is no room for debate on this.

[i_build_nanosuits]

That does not state anything to prove what you said that it has all Japanese caps (which it doesn't)

 

It's by no means a bad PSU, but there undoubtedly are better power supplies for the money. There is no room for debate on this.

if you would have actualy taken the time to read the reviews instead of just spouting shit out of your ass like you always do around here

you would have realized that this unit is indeed all made from good quality japaneese capacitors.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

Primary capacitance from Panasonic. On this heatsink, we have two 20N60S1s and a diode for PFC, and two F22N60Es for switchers. All are controlled by a CM6802 on the daughterboard you can just see overtop of the heatsink.

12V output is done using four 028N06NS parts. This is also where the thermistor mounts for fan control.

We have one Nippon Chemi-Con on the 5VSB output. Good... you need the good parts there, because they get used all the time, usually with no fannage. Most of the 12V output filtering uses Teapo and Capxon

[Aniallation]

if you would have actualy taken the time to read the reviews instead of just spouting shit out of your ass like you always do around here

you would have realized that this unit is indeed all made from good quality japaneese capacitors.

You are the one that's spouting shit out of your ass without reading the review.

 

 

no its not better than those but the RM are cheaper in some part of the world or maybe the op has a discount on it or something you dont even know...and the unit is perfectly fine to use, its vastly superior to the CX series and it's all japaneese caps.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

 

"Most of the 12V output filtering uses Teapo and Capxon. Not my favorite brands but not the worst. I will have to score on that. Polymers include examples from both Aishi (gesundheit!) and Teapo. I have no quarrel with those. Even the worst polymers seem to hold up better than the run of the mill aluminum electrolytic."

 

Teapos and Capxons are NOT Japanese caps.

[i_build_nanosuits]

You are the one that's spouting shit out of your ass without reading the review.

 

 

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

 

"Most of the 12V output filtering uses Teapo and Capxon. Not my favorite brands but not the worst. I will have to score on that. Polymers include examples from both Aishi (gesundheit!) and Teapo. I have no quarrel with those. Even the worst polymers seem to hold up better than the run of the mill aluminum electrolytic."

 

Teapos and Capxons are NOT Japanese caps.

correct, my bad.

[Faceman]

"Build Quality (20% of the final score) - I really only have two areas of major concern on this unit, and one area of minor concern. First, the soldering isn't what I like to see from the best in the world. Delta, Etasis, Enermax... these are the ones to get when it comes to board work so clean you can eat off it. But, this is far from the worst, so I'll only pull half of the point I've allocated for soldering. Now... let's talk about the missing 5V wires. Even though this issue was down to one jumper, the fact remains that its deletion took two of the wires in the ATX spec out of service. Now, the omission of power to these wires is just fine when viewed through the lens of performance in a modern system. The fact that they are dead is a complete non issue from a longevity and performance standpoint for any modern rig using a 24 pin ATX connector. But I'm still going to take two points off - one per dead wire - because if you plug this unit into an old board like my Asrock 939Dual-VSTA which only has a 20 pin ATX connector, you may have issues down the road. This is because both of the dead wires are found on the 20 pin part of the ATX connector, leaving you with only two working ones. The third working one is found on the +4 part of the connector. Oh, and a half point comes off for seeing second tier capacitors, as is my usual deal.

 

The Mediocre:

• substandard capacitors on the 12V output
• just a wee bit pricey for a 650W unit
• no user guide"

 

Sorry Bro-Beans.  Capxons and Teapo are not Japanese caps, they are found in units like the CX series.

 

For a 750W PSU, the go-to is EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W for only $80.

[fusilero75]

Here is a much better build:

 

Yes, i5-4690k will be enough, but you do have the budget to take it to the i7 if you want, but it is not necessary at all for gaming.  Do you live near Microcenter by chance?

8GB of RAM is all you need.

Buy a single 970 for now.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mLLX3C

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mLLX3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.94 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.99 @ Newegg) <-- Same performance, lower cost AIO without the mounting problems, noisy pump, or buggy software of the H100i.

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($117.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($75.99 @ Newegg) <-- Very good performance RAM for cheap.  Also matches your build.

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($369.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) <-- Worlds better case.  Get either the Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) <-- Much better and less expensive PSU.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) <-- Get Windows 8, not 7.

Total: $1293.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-16 20:17 EST-0500

Yes I live near a microcenter. Could you explain me why the case and motherboard are better than the ones I chose? And are you sure 8GB of RAM will be enough? Just to understand more about this.

 In a near future I will probably buy another 970 and make an sli plus I have another computer with an i7-3770 3.4Ghz Do you think I should put that one instead of buying the i5?

 

Thanks for everything everyone.

[Faceman]

Yes I live near a microcenter. Could you explain me why the case and motherboard are better than the ones I chose? And are you sure 8GB of RAM will be enough? Just to understand more about this.

 In a near future I will probably buy another 970 and make an sli plus I have another computer with an i7-3770 3.4Ghz Do you think I should put that one instead of buying the i5?

 

Thanks for everything everyone.

The i7-3770 is still an incredibly powerful CPU.  You can't overclock it, but it is still more than enough to play any game for a long time.  If you want to have a 2nd computer, you could build a brand new one like I mentioned, or you could transplant your old components into a new build.  Its up to you, you will get great performance doing either.  Living near a Microcenter will allow you to buy your processor + motherboard for a very low in-store price.  You can get an i5-4690k + SLI capable Z97 motherboard for as low as $275.  Or you could get an i7-4790k + SLI Capable Z97 motherboard for as little as $355. 

 

Motherboard doesn't really have an impact on performance, they will all overclock the same.  How they differentiate is on features and aesthetics.  I chose that particular motherboard so that you will have a blue/black themed build.  If you want another excellent motherboard choice, the Z97-AR is a fantastic option.  Great aesthetic that fits with any build color wise.  Asus motherboards also come with hands down the best included software and fan control, but they tend to be a little more expensive.

 

The case I selected is much better than the Phantom, while being less expensive.  You could look at the Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.  Can't go wrong with either and they are easily, easily the best full tower cases at their respected prices, especially the Pro.

 

8GB of RAM for gaming is more than enough.  I have never used more than 6GB of RAM when playing games and multitasking.  Here is an idea of the programs I use at once: BF4/ArcheAge + Netflix + Web Browsing + Skype/Ventrillo/Teamspeak + iTunes + HWiNFO + MSi Afterburner + RTSS/FRAPS.  BF4 I tend to max out around 5.4GB, while ArcheAge being an MMO that is prone to the rare memory leak I've ever exceeded 6.1GB.  Start with 8GB, and if you need more then upgrade, but starting with 16GB is not necessary, and that money could be better spent elsewhere in your build.  I also selected you some nice performance 2133Mhz/9CL RAM.  In gaming RAM doesn't have much of an impact on performance, but I have seen one study done that shows performance RAM does add a few fps in multi-GPU scenarios.  Also, this particular kit is very inexpensive at only $75.  If you do eventually decide to upgrade to 16GB, make sure you buy the exact same kit of RAM so that you don't run into any potential problems trying to mix and match RAM.

 

Also, please look into buying the 750W PSU I suggested.  It is usually priced at $100, but currently on sale for only $80.  You won't find a better PSU for the price.  It is easily one of the best on the market.  It comes with no-fan-spin feature found in the RM series, it uses full Japanese capacitors, primary and secondary, uses all black cables for a clean look, it also comes with a 10 year warranty, and best of all, backed behind EVGA which is renown for their customer service.

[fusilero75]

The i7-3770 is still an incredibly powerful CPU.  You can't overclock it, but it is still more than enough to play any game for a long time.  If you want to have a 2nd computer, you could build a brand new one like I mentioned, or you could transplant your old components into a new build.  Its up to you, you will get great performance doing either.  Living near a Microcenter will allow you to buy your processor + motherboard for a very low in-store price.  You can get an i5-4690k + SLI capable Z97 motherboard for as low as $275.  Or you could get an i7-4790k + SLI Capable Z97 motherboard for as little as $355. 

 

Motherboard doesn't really have an impact on performance, they will all overclock the same.  How they differentiate is on features and aesthetics.  I chose that particular motherboard so that you will have a blue/black themed build.  If you want another excellent motherboard choice, the Z97-AR is a fantastic option.  Great aesthetic that fits with any build color wise.  Asus motherboards also come with hands down the best included software and fan control, but they tend to be a little more expensive.

 

The case I selected is much better than the Phantom, while being less expensive.  You could look at the Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.  Can't go wrong with either and they are easily, easily the best full tower cases at their respected prices, especially the Pro.

 

8GB of RAM for gaming is more than enough.  I have never used more than 6GB of RAM when playing games and multitasking.  Here is an idea of the programs I use at once: BF4/ArcheAge + Netflix + Web Browsing + Skype/Ventrillo/Teamspeak + iTunes + HWiNFO + MSi Afterburner + RTSS/FRAPS.  BF4 I tend to max out around 5.4GB, while ArcheAge being an MMO that is prone to the rare memory leak I've ever exceeded 6.1GB.  Start with 8GB, and if you need more then upgrade, but starting with 16GB is not necessary, and that money could be better spent elsewhere in your build.  I also selected you some nice performance 2133Mhz/9CL RAM.  In gaming RAM doesn't have much of an impact on performance, but I have seen one study done that shows performance RAM does add a few fps in multi-GPU scenarios.  Also, this particular kit is very inexpensive at only $75.  If you do eventually decide to upgrade to 16GB, make sure you buy the exact same kit of RAM so that you don't run into any potential problems trying to mix and match RAM.

 

Also, please look into buying the 750W PSU I suggested.  It is usually priced at $100, but currently on sale for only $80.  You won't find a better PSU for the price.  It is easily one of the best on the market.  It comes with no-fan-spin feature found in the RM series, it uses full Japanese capacitors, primary and secondary, uses all black cables for a clean look, it also comes with a 10 year warranty, and best of all, backed behind EVGA which is renown for their customer service.

I´ll probably go with your build and I chose the enthoo luxe so the neon matches with the inside > . Since its the first time im building a computer by myself i think it will be more than enough. The motherboard is out of stock in my micro center and newegg so what do I do? Any tips for a noobie like me? Thanks for everything

[Faceman]

I´ll probably go with your build and I chose the enthoo luxe so the neon matches with the inside > . Since its the first time im building a computer by myself i think it will be more than enough. The motherboard is out of stock in my micro center and newegg so what do I do? Any tips for a noobie like me? Thanks for everything

You will love the Luxe, its a dream to build in.

 

Wait until it is back in stock at Microcenter, they probably get shipments in weekly.  By waiting, you will save a lot of money because of the bundles. Try calling and they should be able to give you a more definitive answer on when it will be back in stock.

 

Hmm.. tips for building.  I'm not really sure where to begin.  Save ALL of your boxes.  Read all of the manuals before installing.  Try your components outside of your case first to make sure it is all working.  Go slowly, do cable management properly.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'm happy to help.

[fusilero75]

You will love the Luxe, its a dream to build in.

 

Wait until it is back in stock at Microcenter, they probably get shipments in weekly.  By waiting, you will save a lot of money because of the bundles. Try calling and they should be able to give you a more definitive answer on when it will be back in stock.

 

Hmm.. tips for building.  I'm not really sure where to begin.  Save ALL of your boxes.  Read all of the manuals before installing.  Try your components outside of your case first to make sure it is all working.  Go slowly, do cable management properly.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'm happy to help.

I will save em all and thanks a lot for everything.  Forgot to say that Im actually in US studying so Ill go back to europe in about 7 months so it will work there right? (Sorry for still bothering you but I need to make sure)

[Faceman]

I will save em all and thanks a lot for everything.  Forgot to say that Im actually in US studying so Ill go back to europe in about 7 months so it will work there right? (Sorry for still bothering you but I need to make sure)

No, never feel like you're bothering me, I'm here to help.  It should work in Europe.  I don't see why it wouldn't.  The only thing I know you will need is a power plug adapter.  Other than that, it should work perfectly.