Help picking mouse

[slifer]

So I'm in the market for a new mouse, I'm mostly a FPS gamer, but will play any other games..

so heres my requirements..

1) right handed use

2) FPS oriented, but also good for everyday use

3) wired

4) I'm mostly a palm grip user, might be able to convert me if its more comfortable..

 

any mouse recommendations?

[Pugs501]

Easy Corsair M65

[LemonSpice]

Easy Corsair M65

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m95 or even the rat 7 my personal mouse

[Pugs501]

m95 or even the rat 7 my personal mouse

What about...

[LemonSpice]

What about...

 

and who the hell did that its like the cat drone

[slifer]

isn't the M95 designed for MMO gamers?

[slifer]

are logitech mices good? been looking at g502.. or should i stick with corsair m45/65 or even razer death adder? maybe mionix?

[atavax]

the logitech g502 uses the best sensor on the market and is great for FPS.

 

the m65 actually has a pretty bad sensor, i would not recommend it.

[atavax]

just found this, i forgot someone made it. there are a couple new mice that should probably be put on it, but for the most part, a good resource https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZzbKDmFOqsP_ut2RdctD01OEbZzbXol6HLwqVkSmZcg/edit#gid=0

[olbaze]

So I'm in the market for a new mouse, I'm mostly a FPS gamer, but will play any other games..

so heres my requirements..

1) right handed use

2) FPS oriented, but also good for everyday use

3) wired

4) I'm mostly a palm grip user, might be able to convert me if its more comfortable..

 

any mouse recommendations?

 

Well, the two mice I can recommend that fill all of the criteria would be Zowie EC1/EC2 Evo and Mionix Naos 7000. I've had the former (EC1 in my case) for 2 years with no issues and recently got the Naos 7000 and it's a joy.

[Verne]

Logitech G502 is good if you require some extra buttons. Mionix Naos 7000 has an ergonomic shape. Zowie's mice are very well regarded (often seen as the best) by FPS "pros". SteelSeries has the Rival and CM Storm the Alcor which are inspired/based on the classic Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer.

[atavax]

for the super hardcore, the Logitech g100s is probably the best FPS mouse.

 

No smoothing

No acceleration

No prediction

light

one of the fastest mouse click response times

a full 1 m/s higher max speed then the mlt04.

 

is it perfect? nope.

While its max speed is significantly higher then the mlt04's, many people can still unintentionally exceed it and many mice have much higher max speeds.

It doesn't have any side buttons, just lmb, rmb, and scroll wheel.

It doesn't have onboard memory, so you can't save your profile then shut down the program. If you want a DPI below 1,000 you have to run the software in the background

it does feel slightly cheap

500hz is the max polling rate

it has a removable weight that you have to open the mouse up and void the warranty to remove and make the mouse the lightest it can be

[Verringer]

isn't the M95 designed for MMO gamers?

As a casual MMO gamer, I can't see myself using a M95. I bought a Razer Naga 2014 and haven't regretted it at all. I don't recommend RAT, they rust.

[sulairris]

i use a roccat kone xtd for FPS and it works great 

 

[slifer]

so i should get either a logitech g100s or a mionix 7000?

[atavax]

ok, for fps, the one thing everyone agrees is important is the sensor.

 

The one sensor with no clear weaknesses is the 3366 and its only in one mouse, the Logitech g502. The logitech g502 is fairly heavy which many FPS players consider undesirable and it has a heavy and slick scroll wheel, which many find undesirable.

 

After the 3366, there are 4 really good sensors. the mlt04, the AM010, the 3310, and the S3988.

 

The mlt04 is only in 3 microsoft mice. Intellimouse Optical 1.1, Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, and Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1. So the properties of the mlt04 is it is basically bar none, the best, most raw sensor, better raw tracking then even the 3366. But it has significant downsides. It has one of the lowest max speeds, of about 1.6m/s, that really anyone can easily exceed. To even get the sensor to perform well, you have to overclock the polling to 500hz, which requires third party software and can't be done on anything newer then windows 7. It also only has 1 dpi step, 400.

 

The AM010 is only in a couple Logitech mice, the g100s, g402, g302,and g602 (the g602 being the only wireless mouse currently with any of the 5 best sensors). It has the next best raw tracking. It also has the next worse max speed, of about 2.8m/s. Which is to the point where most people will rarely if ever exceed it. If you use a low sensitivity it is conceivable you will exceed it regularly. The g402 uses an accelerometer to artificially increases the max speed to well past every other sensor on the market, but its performance while at those speeds is questionable.

 

The S3988 is in the Razer Deathadder 4g, the Deathadder Chroma, the Krait 4g, the Roccat Kone XTD Optical, and the Asus ROG Gladius. If a mouse has a max DPI of 6400, it probably has this sensor.  It has the least raw tracking of the 4. It has the best performance at extremely high speeds with the exception being the 3366 outperforms it at high speeds. It is pretty unlikely that you will ever unintentionally exceed this sensor's max speed. Pretty much all there is to say on it.

 

The 3310 is in too many mice to list. It performs just slightly worse at high speeds then the S3988 and has a little better raw tracking then the S3988.  Most mice with a max dpi of 5000, are 3310 mice. But there are exceptions. Mionix's 7000 mice use the 3310, the Steelseries Rival uses the 3310, and the Zowie FK1 uses the 3310. It is pretty unlikely you will ever unintentionally exceed this sensor's max speed.

[slifer]

ok, for fps, the one thing everyone agrees is important is the sensor.

 

The one sensor with no clear weaknesses is the 3366 and its only in one mouse, the Logitech g502. The logitech g502 is fairly heavy which many FPS players consider undesirable and it has a heavy and slick scroll wheel, which many find undesirable.

 

After the 3366, there are 4 really good sensors. the mlt04, the AM010, the 3310, and the S3988.

 

The mlt04 is only in 3 microsoft mice. Intellimouse Optical 1.1, Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, and Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1. So the properties of the mlt04 is it is basically bar none, the best, most raw sensor, better raw tracking then even the 3366. But it has significant downsides. It has one of the lowest max speeds, of about 1.6m/s, that really anyone can easily exceed. To even get the sensor to perform well, you have to overclock the polling to 500hz, which requires third party software and can't be done on anything newer then windows 7. It also only has 1 dpi step, 400.

 

The AM010 is only in a couple Logitech mice, the g100s, g402, g302,and g602 (the g602 being the only wireless mouse currently with any of the 5 best sensors). It has the next best raw tracking. It also has the next worse max speed, of about 2.8m/s. Which is to the point where most people will rarely if ever exceed it. If you use a low sensitivity it is conceivable you will exceed it regularly. The g402 uses an accelerometer to artificially increases the max speed to well past every other sensor on the market, but its performance while at those speeds is questionable.

 

The S3988 is in the Razer Deathadder 4g, the Deathadder Chroma, the Krait 4g, the Roccat Kone XTD Optical, and the Asus ROG Gladius. If a mouse has a max DPI of 6400, it probably has this sensor.  It has the least raw tracking of the 4. It has the best performance at extremely high speeds with the exception being the 3366 outperforms it at high speeds. It is pretty unlikely that you will ever unintentionally exceed this sensor's max speed. Pretty much all there is to say on it.

 

The 3310 is in too many mice to list. It performs just slightly worse at high speeds then the S3988 and has a little better raw tracking then the S3988.  Most mice with a max dpi of 5000, are 3310 mice. But there are exceptions. Mionix's 7000 mice use the 3310, the Steelseries Rival uses the 3310, and the Zowie FK1 uses the 3310. It is pretty unlikely you will ever unintentionally exceed this sensor's max speed.

very informative! maybe i should head to a local store and see how heavy the G502 is.. guess that will be my top choice or the deathadder and then the gs100