What if AMD goes bankrupt?

[Snickerzz]

So what would happen? Would intel be the one and only or would someone like IBM or samsung step ip and start making enthusiast cpus?

[SteepGnomeKing]

So what would happen? Would intel be the one and only or would someone like IBM or samsung step ip and start making enthusiast cpus?

 

They would be bought. 

 

No one would step into the desktop market and the government would intervene if for some reason they weren't bought. Arm makes processors so does Nvidia, Samsung, and many others. I would be quite horrible but if no on bought AMD and continued in the desktop market I think Intel would be your only option.

[Andi]

You would need the x86 licence, only VIA, AMD and Intel are the only one left in the x86 business as far as i know. I think ibm has a licence but samsung for sure not.

[Anult]

it would be disastrous for the x86 desktop market.

 

Intel could stop innovating and bring out a sub-par product and consumers would have no competing product, thus having no choice but to buy said product.

[SteepGnomeKing]

You would need the x86 licence, only VIA, AMD and Intel are the only one left in the x86 business as far as i know. I think ibm has a licence but samsung for sure not.

 

Doesn't AMD own the x86-64 patent and intel pays them per processor?

[Anult]

Doesn't AMD own the x86-64 patent and intel pays them per processor?

 

Yes, they do.

[nishank93]

Someone (other than Intel, otherwise it is time to officially panic) will have to buy them out. Samsung or IBM most likely.

[Andi]

Yes, they do.

no they don't intel liked what amd did and did the same, but little bit different..

[Andi]

Someone (other than Intel, otherwise it is time to officially panic) will have to buy them out. Samsung or IBM most likely.

the lisence agreement with intel prevents anybody else to use amds x86 lisence if they go bankrupt. somebody will buy the ATI part, but without the lisence amd is useless.

[Woodypc]

I would not worry about it, they doing not too badly at the moment.

[JordanMac]

They would get bought anyway, they won't go bankrupt they the ones putting the cpu's in the xbox one and ps4.

[SteepGnomeKing]

Yes, they do.

 

That's what I thought

no they don't intel liked what amd did and did the same, but little bit different..

 

I thought they did because they own the patent of x86 processors able to use 64 bit programs without being just 64 bit processors that can't use 32 bit programs.

[Andi]

They would get bought anyway, they won't go bankrupt they the ones putting the cpu's in the xbox one and ps4.

that means nothing...you don't know how much profit they make with each chip. it could only be 1$ for all we know. or even less.

[SteepGnomeKing]

that means nothing...you don't know how much profit they make with each chip. it could only be 1$ for all we know. or even less.

Since it is the CPU and GPU I would assume around 5-8 dollars per console sold with a guarantee of 50 million sold in it's life time for amd to jump on board.

[EChondo]

AMD won't go bankrupt...

[Dragontail]

Both the new console market and a flurishing APU market, well dont see it happening anytime soon!

 

Although I think they have shifted their aim abit, more into the APU/Opteron market and less on the Desktop/Discrete GPU market, so in my mind Nvidia/intel are already alone atm which is sad, because competion is good. So my hopes are that AMD will through out a competeing GPU and a competeing CPU very soon so that we can see these two compenies go toe to toe again like in the old days :D

[SteepGnomeKing]

Both the new console market and a flurishing APU market, well dont see it happening anytime soon!

 

Although I think they have shifted their aim abit, more into the APU/Opteron market and less on the Desktop/Discrete GPU market, so in my mind Nvidia/intel are already alone atm which is sad, because competion is good. So my hopes are that AMD will through out a competeing GPU and a competeing CPU very soon so that we can see these two compenies go toe to toe again like in the old days :D

 

E3 man E3!!!

 

If they can do what they did last year but now with better drivers it's gonna make some people switch.

 

I have to say though I like PhysX and what it adds go the game Warframe, Planetside 2, Hawken. If Nvidia made those on AMD I would have gotten 2 7970m's instead. 

[Samdb]

that means nothing...you don't know how much profit they make with each chip. it could only be 1$ for all we know. or even less.

Even if they break even they still won't go bankrupt as they aren't losing money.

[Andi]

Even if they break even they still won't go bankrupt as they aren't losing money.

aren't losing money? you mean like the 6,4billion dollar they lost the last 6 years. I don't trust the console deal, AMD is desperate. They would take the console deals even if it would mean they lose money the first 1-2 years.

[JordanMac]

that means nothing...you don't know how much profit they make with each chip. it could only be 1$ for all we know. or even less.

it will be more than $1 per chip, and even if it is the shear amount of consoles sold will bring them lots of money.

[SteepGnomeKing]

Even if they break even they still won't go bankrupt as they aren't losing money.

 

Still you don't make money to pay for the next project and unless the next company is nice and fronts you the money than yes you do technically lose money

 

aren't losing money? you mean like the 6,4billion dollar they lost the last 6 years. I don't trust the console deal, AMD is desperate. They would take the console deals even if it would mean they lose money the first 1-2 years.

Desperate? no. In the best of times? no. They are surviving and will because they have a lot of sponsors that "need" them and will help them. Console deals yes they will lose money the first year unless both sell i'd assume 30 million each in that time frame. The amount of r&d that went into them is enormous. But they will make their money back. They spend millions a year just on deciding if they should do something. They know what they are doing getting into the console world.

[Scia]

They would be bought. 

 

No one would step into the desktop market and the government would intervene if for some reason they weren't bought. Arm makes processors so does Nvidia, Samsung, and many others. I would be quite horrible but if no on bought AMD and continued in the desktop market I think Intel would be your only option.

 

This. Most likely.

 

And hypothetically if AMD just vanished.

Have Fun with Haswell, it's the best performing chip you will see in the next 500yrs. Intel is already not giving a shit about pumping performance, if AMD is gone and does not pose any thread what so ever, they basically will focus on laptop chips and you may enjoy Haswell with yoiur great grand kids ^^

[SirReallySam]

If they went bankrupt I would be sad :( also not much competition for Intel so bad.....