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I am thinking about deliding my chip, but since Haswells have the top mounted components I was wondering what others have done in order to not short their chip? 

 

I know a bunch of people use Liquid Metal as a TIM between die and IHS, but if I used something like MX-4 which is non-conductive this would make this no longer a concern. But, will MX-4 perform well enough on such a low surface area?

 

Also, how to you seal the IHS back down once you are ready to put it back in the mobo socket? I tried to look around and didn't find much for resealing the IHS which I would want to do.

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If you're going to use MX-4, don't bother. That will not make it worth losing your warranty over, or the possibility of bricking your chip. Anything short of soldering or Liquid Ultra is just pointless.

I used some acrylic clearpaint on the SMD's to prevent shorting. And well, putting it back together is a bit of a trick. You need to get a creditcard or whatever and hold it in it's place while you fasten the clamp to prevent it from sliding with the clip.

 

Also, keep in mind that ASUS Gryphon board of yours is only a 4+0 VRM. You might run into some VRM bottlenecking your overclocking potential at 4.6+, especially if you need lots of voltage.

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If you're going to use MX-4, don't bother. That will not make it worth losing your warranty over, or the possibility of bricking your chip. Anything short of soldering or Liquid Ultra is just pointless.

I used some acrylic clearpaint on the SMD's to prevent shorting. And well, putting it back together is a bit of a trick. You need to get a creditcard or whatever and hold it in it's place while you fasten the clamp to prevent it from sliding with the clip.

Also, keep in mind that ASUS Gryphon board of yours is only a 4+0 VRM. You might run into some VRM bottlenecking your overclocking potential at 4.6+, especially if you need lots of voltage.

I am only doing it to reduce temps, may push to 4.5-4.6 just cuz. But chip needs a lot of volts and I wouldn't feel comfortable (it needs 1.33 if I remember correctly for my 4.4 ghz :/ ).

How much temp drop did you get from deliding? And what TIM did you use?

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1.33V for 4.4? Dang. Have you tried lowering the ring frequency a bit? 

 

I used Coollabaratory Liquid Ultra. Don't worry, it won't dry between the chip and the lid. But whatever you do, DONT use it between your Glacer and the CPU. Or you'll have a fun time sanding it off next time you take it off like I did.

And before you ask; The vice method, with those surface mounted parts, you'd be an idiot using the razor method.

 

With something like a Glacer 240L, expect a nice drop. Possibly 15-20deg. But is it really neccesary though? If you require such voltage for 4.4ghz, it will never really do well. Might as well just roll with 4.4ghz instead of going through all that for an extra 200mhz. Unless it's just for lolz like me : )

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1.33V for 4.4? Dang. Have you tried lowering the ring frequency a bit?

I used Coollabaratory Liquid Ultra. Don't worry, it won't dry between the chip and the lid. But whatever you do, DONT use it between your Glacer and the CPU. Or you'll have a fun time sanding it off next time you take it off like I did.

And before you ask; The vice method, with those surface mounted parts, you'd be an idiot using the razor method.

With something like a Glacer 240L, expect a nice drop. Possibly 15-20deg. But is it really neccesary though? If you require such voltage for 4.4ghz, it will never really do well. Might as well just roll with 4.4ghz instead of going through all that for an extra 200mhz. Unless it's just for lolz like me : )

It would be for the lolz, and no I have not messed with the ring frequency. I will have to look into that.

Also, I am planning to set up a real water cooling system, I would use the 240 as the backbone, throw in my 290 on a full block and add a 280 rad.

I would also use vice method, and liquid ultra I suppose (still worried about those surface mounted components) but I guess you were able to seal them without issue.

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Yep; http://i.imgur.com/80WOTe1.jpg

also, added lolz; http://i.imgur.com/z8NOHD4.jpg (which is easy to do once delidded).

Well, you don't really need a high powered loop for Haswell. Even overclocked it maybe uses ~140W. That 240L will do fine. That 290 though... +)

Nice! And yea the 240 is fine for the CPU. I can keep 4.4ghz ~1.2 volts (what mobo gives it under game load) well under 55c average with sub 900 rpm SP120's.

The 290 will be a bunch more heat being dumped into the system, this the 280 additional rad space ;)

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  • 3 months later...

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I have delidded my 4770k and replaced the Hyper 212 with the NH-D14... 1.325v and BF4 running stays at 59°C... MUAHAHAH the Hyper 212 couldn't keep it cool at 1.285v...

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