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I've been researching on what system I should buy for quite some while now and i have pretty much come to a proper conclusion. here are my final doubts, please help me out :)

 

1. what would be a good intel processor for $250. i would like it to have hyperthreading. suggest me one processor with and one without hyperthreading.

2. suggest me a motherboard. its ok if its cheap, all i need is for it to support crossfire.

 

thanks in advance

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1. 4690k if you are overclocking (No HT). Otherwise the Xeon E3-1231V3 if you are not overclocking (Has HT)

 

2. MSI Z97 PC MATE

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Non-HT - 4690K

HT - Xeon E3-1230v3

 

Motherboard - H97 PC Mate/H97 Pro4 if ATX, Z97-G55 SLI if wanting to OC.

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1. 4690k if you are overclocking (No HT). Otherwise the Xeon E3-1231V3 if you are not overclocking (Has HT)

 

2. MSI Z97 PC MATE

As an owner of the PC Mate, I will say no.

 

Why? Voltage limit, lack of LLC, visually unappealing, etc.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 500GB Crucial P3 Plus, 4TB Silicon Power UD90 | GPU: AsRock Radeon RX 9070 XT Steel Legend | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Corsair SF850

Main Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | RAM: 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi | Storage: 512GB SKHynix NVMe | GPUs: NVIDIA TITAN Xp 2-way SLI | Cooling: Thermalright Frozen Prism 360mm | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM850

File and Media Server (AOOSTAR WTR Pro): CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5825U | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Silicon Power DDR4-3200 SODIMMs | Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x14TB Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530

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As an owner of the PC Mate, I will say no.

 

Why? Voltage limit, lack of LLC, visually unappealing, etc.

And how high would that voltage limit be?

RIG: I7-4790k @ 4.5GHz | MSI Z97S SLI Plus | 12GB Geil Dragon RAM 1333MHz | Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 (1550MHz core/7800MHz memory) @ +18mV(Maxed out at 1650/7800 so far) | Corsair RM750 | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB, 1TB Seagate Barracuda | Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Closed) | Sound Blaster Z                                                                                                                        Getting: Noctua NH-D15 | Possible 250GB Samsung 850 Evo                                                                                        Need a console killer that actually shits on every console? Here you go (No MIR/Promo)

This is why you should not get an FX CPU for ANY scenario other than rendering on a budget http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/286142-fx-8350-r9-290-psu-requirements/?p=3892901 | http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/266481-an-issue-with-people-bashing-the-fx-cpus/?p=3620861

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As an owner of the PC Mate, I will say no.

 

Why? Voltage limit, lack of LLC, visually unappealing, etc.

also the second pcie express slot is only 4x speed so it will not be good for crossfire or anything better than say a R9-270.

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And how high would that voltage limit be?

1.3V

 

It sounds fine in theory considering you shouldn't put much more than 1.35 in a Haswell/DC chip, but the board still isn't very good. And honestly, there are better boards in the price range.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 500GB Crucial P3 Plus, 4TB Silicon Power UD90 | GPU: AsRock Radeon RX 9070 XT Steel Legend | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Corsair SF850

Main Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | RAM: 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi | Storage: 512GB SKHynix NVMe | GPUs: NVIDIA TITAN Xp 2-way SLI | Cooling: Thermalright Frozen Prism 360mm | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM850

File and Media Server (AOOSTAR WTR Pro): CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5825U | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Silicon Power DDR4-3200 SODIMMs | Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x14TB Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530

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I've been researching on what system I should buy for quite some while now and i have pretty much come to a proper conclusion. here are my final doubts, please help me out :)

 

1. what would be a good intel processor for $250. i would like it to have hyperthreading. suggest me one processor with and one without hyperthreading.

2. suggest me a motherboard. its ok if its cheap, all i need is for it to support crossfire.

 

thanks in advance

What kind of work will you be doing?  Why do you need hyperthreading?

 

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 - $250

 

Intel i5-4690k - $200-$240

 

Motherboard:

MSI Z97 G-55 - $118

Gigabyte GA-Z97X - $120

ASRock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer - $125

Asus Z97-A - $140

Asus Z97-AR - $150

 

If you live near a Microcenter, you can get great bundle deals on these parts.

"I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts."

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I will be mostly gaming, no video editing, And hyperthreading is just a creature comfort. might as well go for it if I'm buying an Intel system

All you need is an i5, if you are dead set on getting hyperthreading, then you need an i7 which will cost almost $100 more.  Hyperthreading is something games don't take advantage of, with the exception being Watch Dogs.

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As an owner of the PC Mate, I will say no.

 

Why? Voltage limit, lack of LLC, visually unappealing, etc.

Cannot agree more. I wish they'd drop the BS with the cheapest boards being blue. Just make them solid black FFS because black goes with everything.

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

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Cannot agree more. I wish they'd drop the BS with the cheapest boards being blue. Just make them solid black FFS because black goes with everything.

I agree, make the least expensive motherboards be "color compatible" with every system.  If you want a colored motherboard, a $10 premium is not too steep a price to pay.  Some people will gripe, but it is a tradeoff I would gladly have to get an all-black motherboard at the entry price of $100.  I think the closest thing currently to an all-black motherboard is the Asus Z97-AR.

"I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts."

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All you need is an i5, if you are dead set on getting hyperthreading, then you need an i7 which will cost almost $100 more.  Hyperthreading is something games don't take advantage of, with the exception being Watch Dogs.

congratulation!

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As an owner of the PC Mate, I will say no.

 

Why? Voltage limit, lack of LLC, visually unappealing, etc.

 

That's so annoying, thought all boards actually started to come with llc since Z87? Most cheap z77 boards didn't have LLC, was freaking annoying to deal with.

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