Direct cuii vs windforce

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Why do you have a sub on top of your case? It can damage your hard drives.

I am running an SSD in my current build.

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They're worse for SLI setups. 

Open air cooler on designs like the Sapphire Tri-X will always enable superior cooling no matter what.

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Open air cooler on designs like the Sapphire Tri-X will always enable superior cooling no matter what.

Superior cooling yeah but its loud as shit and it will get warmer/louder whenever you put a 2nd card in there since it's breathing the heat of the 2nd GPU. I've used open air coolers in SLI, first card usually runs at 15° higher but my reference in SLI just no temp difference. Forget 3 way with them.

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Superior cooling yeah but its loud as shit and it will get warmer/louder whenever you put a 2nd card in there since it's breathing the heat of the 2nd GPU. I've used open air coolers in SLI, first card usually runs at 15° higher but my reference in SLI just no temp difference. Forget 3 way with them.

A good quality cooler like that found on the Sapphire Tri-X is very very low noise and cooler much better than most anything else even in muti card configs.

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Superior cooling yeah but its loud as shit and it will get warmer/louder whenever you put a 2nd card in there since it's breathing the heat of the 2nd GPU. I've used open air coolers in SLI, first card usually runs at 15° higher but my reference in SLI just no temp difference. Forget 3 way with them.

 

I think you got your facts backwards.  Open air coolers are less noisy but dump the heat into the case.  Blower style coolers are noisier but push the hot air out.

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A good quality cooler like that found on the Sapphire Tri-X is very very low noise and cooler much better than most anything else even in muti card configs.

 

You've seen the 290x vapor-x at 60dBa.

 

I think you got your facts backwards.  Open air coolers are less noisy but dump the heat into the case.  Blower style coolers are noisier but push the hot air out.

No, I'm right. Two open air coolers in a case, the first GPU will always run hotter because it breathes the hot air from the 2nd card. With reference this isn't the case because they exhaust it from the back. Blower style coolers aren't necessarily louder, especially not in SLI.

Here's the reference GTX 780 producing 47dBa at full load measured from 4" with a 6K eur dbmeter: http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4404/34/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review-titan-light-stroomverbruik-en-geluidsproductie

Here's the Evga ACX classified everyone keeps bumming and overrating it producing 52dBa at full load from 4" with a 6K eur dbmeter: http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4981/6/drie-bloedsnelle-gtx-780s-review-evgas-classified-gigabytes-ghz-edition-en-msis-lightning-koeling-geluidsproductie-en-stroomverbruik

I've owned the Asus GTX 780 DC2 (you can see in the EVGA link that its only 4 dBa quieter than the reference) it was considerably louder in SLI than both of my reference mainly because the first GPU was running a degree of 15° hotter when they basically get very loud. Single mode yes the DC2 is quieter but not in SLI.

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You've seen the 290x vapor-x at 60dBa.

I was talking about the Tri-X R9 290 but for argument sake the Tri-X cooled R9 290(X) is only around 36dbA R9 290 will be a little lower. Vapor-X is even lower noise than Tri-X. http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Radeon-R9-290X-Tri-X-4GB-Graphics-Card-Review/Clock-Speeds-Cooling-a

No, I'm right. Two open air coolers in a case, the first GPU will always run hotter because it breathes the hot air from the 2nd card.

With any air cooling design the top card will always run slightly hotter than the bottom when in SLI/CFX. Reference blower style cards trap the heat in and make both card runs hotter when in SLI CFX.

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I was talking about the Tri-X R9 290 but for argument sake the Tri-X cooled R9 290(X) is only around 36dbA R9 290 will be a little lower. Vapor-X is even lower noise than Tri-X. 

 

Vaporx is 60dBa. Linking again; http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/5540/8/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-oc-4-gb-review-geluidsproductie

If you think that card is quiet, check your hearings. Don't come off with a source that measures it from a mile away. 3x 80-90mm fans running at 2000 rpm isn't quiet. A reference 780 is even quieter than the vaporx as I showed in my previous post, don't tell me the reference 780 is brilliantly quiet, in fact no 780 gpu is quiet. Quiet is quiet, not 60 dBa. Nor the Asus gtx 780 dc2 is quiet which is considered to be the quietest 780.

 

With any air cooling design the top card will always run slightly hotter than the bottom when in SLI/CFX. Reference blower style cards trap the heat in and make both card runs hotter when in SLI CFX.

 

Bullshit, Reference blowers take air from the intakes and blow it out. They don't dump any heat in the case and therefore it can't heat anything else up. http://i.imgur.com/JnXD612.jpg 

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Vaporx is 60dBa. Linking again; http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/5540/8/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-oc-4-gb-review-geluidsproductie

If you think that card is quiet, check your hearings. Don't come off with a source that measures it from a mile away. 3x 80-90mm fans running at 2000 rpm isn't quiet. A reference 780 is even quieter than the vaporx as I showed in my previous post, don't tell me the reference 780 is brilliantly quiet, in fact no 780 gpu is quiet. Quiet is quiet, not 60 dBa. Nor the Asus gtx 780 dc2 is quiet which is considered to be the quietest 780.

 

 

Bullshit, Reference blowers take air from the intakes and blow it out. They don't dump any heat in the case and therefore it can't heat anything else up. http://i.imgur.com/JnXD612.jpg 

 

I dont read German or whatever that shit is. At any rate it's now clear you be trollin so there's that.

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I dont read German or whatever that shit is. At any rate it's now clear you be trollin so there's that.

O god, thing is 40dBa at idle, it's nearly louder than a MSI gtx 780 twin frozr at full load (42dBa) along with being 50 or 55 dBa at full load and you're saying it's quiet. Really whats next? A car is quiet? If you think your 350W card is quiet under air, well then you have bad hearings and even under water it won't be quiet since coil whine gets louder at a higher wattages. http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/5204/13/3x-amd-radeon-r9-290--2x-amd-radeon-r9-290x-review-asus-gigabyte-en-sapphire-geluidsproductie

Switch it to English then; http://uk.hardware.info

They have a database for performance/noise/power consumption for nearly every GPU out there, along with other things like PSU's/HDD's/cpu coolers so you can compare it. They measure from 4" away just to get maximum accuracy with a decibel meter of 6000+ eur, trust me according to every source out there the fan on the Evga supernova was quiet but hardware.info completely disagrees which I can confirm. A 7200 rpm HDD is at 40dBa, so I thought yeah I'll get it no just turned out to be annoyingly loud.

Stop calling me a troll when I proved you like 3 or 4 times wrong in this thread, even in an earlier thread where you claimed a 4670k can't outperform a 990x in gaming.

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O god, thing is 40dBa at idle, ...

Again Sapphire Tri-X, Vapor-X cooling or others are better than reference cooling always no matter single of CFX etc.

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Again Sapphire Tri-X, Vapor-X cooling or others are better than reference cooling always no matter single of CFX etc.

No not always. In 3 or 4 Way SLI/CF blower style cards are better. 2 780 refs are better than 780 open air ones. About AMD, their reference cooler was fail, had little to do with how bad blower style coolers are especially if the reference 780ti only consumes 30w less and runs a lot quieter/cooler. If you stricly speak from cooling performance, well my reference at 100% cools far better than my DC2's were but being a shitload louder ofc.

Besides don't forget, most open air coolers use heatpipes which doesn't work well in a case with a 90° rotated MB because its pulling the liquid down. When I switched to my TJ11, my DC2's were hitting 90° at 100% fan speed and AP181's at 100% fan speed during mining. Putting the case on its front, so its like a normal case makes a world of difference but not really what you should do with a TJ11. Reference at 100% fan speed was barely going above ~70° at 100% fan speed because they don't use heatpipes.

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No not always. In 3 or 4 Way SLI/CF blower style cards are better. 2 780 refs are better than 780 open air ones. About AMD, their reference cooler was fail, had little to do with how bad blower style coolers are especially if the reference 780ti only consumes 30w less and runs a lot quieter/cooler. If you stricly speak from cooling performance, well my reference at 100% cools far better than my DC2's were but being a shitload louder ofc.

Besides don't forget, most open air coolers use heatpipes which doesn't work well in a case with a 90° rotated MB because its pulling the liquid down. When I switched to my TJ11, my DC2's were hitting 90° at 100% fan speed and AP181's at 100% fan speed during mining. Putting the case on its front, so its like a normal case makes a world of difference but not really what you should do with a TJ11. Reference at 100% fan speed was barely going above ~70° at 100% fan speed because they don't use heatpipes.

You are arguing against thermal dynamics.

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You are arguing against thermal dynamics.

If you'd love going for one more round being disproven, no problem here.

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i use an MSI twinfrozr Gaming GTX 780 and it's one of the most quiet GPU i've ever owned, previous one was gigabyte windforce HD7950 and even though it's a much weaker and cooler GPu than the 780 is, the gigabyte card was way louder...3 fans cooler design are always louder than 2 bigger fans and this is pure logic when you think of it the smaller fans spins faster and have higher pitch so they are much more noticeable and you got 3 of them so right there is 33% more noise not taking into account fan size, it's also 33% more point of failure.

I know personaly i will stick to dual fan coolers from now on...and the MSI twinfrozr is flawless...great temps too with the superpipe i can only imagine that it's doing well on the AMD cards as well.

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i use an MSI twinfrozr Gaming GTX 780 and it's one of the most quiet GPU i've ever owned, previous one was gigabyte windforce HD7950 and even though it's a much weaker and cooler GPu than the 780 is, the gigabyte card was way louder...3 fans cooler design are always louder than 2 bigger fans and this is pure logic when you think of it the smaller fans spins faster and have higher pitch so they are much more noticeable and you got 3 of them so right there is 33% more noise not taking into account fan size, it's also 33% more point of failure.

I know personaly i will stick to dual fan coolers from now on...and the MSI twinfrozr is flawless...great temps too with the superpipe i can only imagine that it's doing well on the AMD cards as well.

That's not true at all. It comes down to the fan design. 3 Well engineered fans vs one or two crappy fans the 3 will be less noise. The Saphire Vapor-X has three fans and is way less noise than most coolers out there. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/66491-sapphire-r9-290-vapor-x-oc-review-9.html

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If you'd love going for one more round being disproven, no problem here.

All you are saying is that in your opinion your think that blower style coolers are better than open air high performance aftermarket designs. You have no way to prove this as this is why they make aftermarket coolers to increase the cooling capacity not reduce it.

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That's not true at all. It comes down to the fan design. 3 Well engineered fans vs one or two crappy fans the 3 will be less noise. The Saphire Vapor-X has three fans and is way less noise than most coolers out there. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/66491-sapphire-r9-290-vapor-x-oc-review-9.html

humm..sorry...but in this review the vapor-x is tested against REFERENCE DESIGN coolers from other GPU's and it's BARELY any quieter...

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humm..sorry...but in this review the vapor-x is tested against REFERENCE DESIGN coolers from other GPU's and it's BARELY any quieter...

It also cools way more efficiently than blower coolers. Accelero tri fan cooler @ 24dba and 66c http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1103-page5.html

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It also cools way more efficiently than blower coolers.

of course it does...but nobody as recommended a reference design cooler card so far.

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All you are saying is that in your opinion your think that blower style coolers are better than open air high performance aftermarket designs. You have no way to prove this as this is why they make aftermarket coolers to increase the cooling capacity not reduce it.

First you claimed 60dBa is quiet, then you're completely disregarding that open air GPU's won't breathe any air because they don't run any warmer;

 

 

With any air cooling design the top card will always run slightly hotter than the bottom when in SLI/CFX. Reference blower style cards trap the heat in and make both card runs hotter when in SLI CFX.

 

Apparently with open air coolers the top card will only run 2° warmer because somehow it dodges the heat the other card outputs. Reference style cards trap heat in and somehow make each other run hotter. Freaking logic >.>

 

 

That's not true at all. It comes down to the fan design. 3 Well engineered fans vs one or two crappy fans the 3 will be less noise. The Saphire Vapor-X has three fans and is way less noise than most coolers out there. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/66491-sapphire-r9-290-vapor-x-oc-review-9.html

Are you a troll or what? You're doing it again? Its the loudest non-reference 290x you can get. How can it be quieter than most coolers when it's considered to be the 2nd loudest single card out there (aside from dual-gpu cards/290 refs) http://be.hardware.info/reviews/5540/8/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-oc-4-gb-review-geluidsproductie

What do you think is more accurate measuring from 18" or from 4"? You might as well measure it from a mile or 6 away and say its quiet, it's all about measuring it from a bigger distance. Not everyone has his PC on the floor playing with headphones, not everyone is deaf, that card will have a shitload of coil whine considering its power draw. If you disagree with this, show me a 295x2/Titan-Z that doesnt whine or a PSU that sits at 800W load. 

Dude says its quieter than most coolers out there because it has 3 fans when it basically runs at 58dBa from 4" away LOL. A ref 780 is even quieter at 47dBa, thats a difference of 10 dBa which is twice as quieter, the msi 780 twin frozr runs at 43dBa almost a 20dBa difference, every 780 out there and any other brand is quieter than Sapphire. http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4419/34/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review-titan-light-energy-consumption-and-noise-level

Apparently they are well engineered fans that can't go lower than 1500 rpm and the fans being louder at its lowest speed than a 780 TF3 at full load -> means you have well engineered fans. You probably won't hear your car exploding when youre playing on your most quiet GPU vapor-x.