The Ultimate non-overclock gaming PC

[ChronusHan]

Can anyone help me build the ultimate gaming pc? I won't be overclocking it because I thought that the cons outweights the benefits. Any ideas?

[Osmium]

What are you using it for? JUST gaming or will you be doing anything else?

[79wjd]

Can anyone help me build the ultimate gaming pc? I won't be overclocking it because I thought that the cons outweights the benefits. Any ideas?

There really aren't any cons to overclocking. So long as you don't crank up the voltage too high theres virtually no cpu degradation caused by overclocking. At 1.2-1.3v on a Haswell i5 you're more than likely going to upgrade long before the cpu would die. 

 

Whats your budget? Do you need peripherals? What resolution? and whats your location? 

[Rorgash]

also, lets start by putting 2 Titan Z´s or 2 295x2 in it, which will bring the cost to between 4000$ to what 6000$.... ultimate sure, worth it? no..

[79wjd]

also, lets start by putting 2 Titan Z´s or 2 295x2 in it, which will bring the cost to between 4000$ to what 6000$.... ultimate sure, worth it? no..

A build with 2 295x2s can be done for under 4k  

[Rorgash]

A build with 2 295x2s can be done for under 4k

the gpus are just the start, then we need the XEON cpus and other things ofcourse, wont be ultimate without 11 cores, tho a extreme might give better performance.

[Osmium]

the gpus are just the start, then we need the XEON cpus and other things ofcourse, wont be ultimate without 11 cores, tho a extreme might give better performance.

 

4 Core master race.

[Rorgash]

4 Core master race.

im running low on cores actually, 4 for gaming, but what about watching streams at the same time? streams are taking a lot out of my cpu for some reason...

[ChronusHan]

It would be like 2500-3000. I prefer nvidia and intel parts, no sli, and it would be using for gaming, websurfing, movies, and maybe very little editing. Also, I thought that overclocking reduced the lifespan of the parts? Or am I misinformed?

[79wjd]

the gpus are just the start, then we need the XEON cpus and other things ofcourse, wont be ultimate without 11 cores, tho a extreme might give better performance.

Well, while we're at it, we might as well throw in dual Xeons. Hell, we should just build a room full of dual Xeon Quad-fire R9 295x2s fully water-cooled through an AC system and network them all together. 

[79wjd]

It would be like 2500-3000. I prefer nvidia and intel parts, no sli, and it would be using for gaming, websurfing, movies, and maybe very little editing. Also, I thought that overclocking reduced the lifespan of the parts? Or am I misinformed?

Reasonable overclocking won't really damage a cpu. Will it decrease the lifespan? Maybe...It may only last 9 years instead of 10+. But at that point its really irrelevant. The cpu will be outdated long before a reasonable overclock burns it out. 

 

location? Any particular reason why you prefer nvidia? 

[Rorgash]

Well, while we're at it, we might as well throw in dual Xeons. Hell, we should just build a room full of dual Xeon Quad-fire R9 295x2s fully water-cooled through an AC system and network them all together. 

yep, ultimate has to be ultimate after all  

 

Oh and im done making fun of the title here now.

[Osmium]

im running low on cores actually, 4 for gaming, but what about watching streams at the same time? streams are taking a lot out of my cpu for some reason...

 

Streams are pretty harsh on the CPU I've noticed. But most games use 2 threads anyway (more and more are starting to use 4 though) so that leaves 2 threads with nothing to do usually.

[ChronusHan]

Korea or America

[ChronusHan]

I prefer nvdia cause of aesthetics and nit very much reason to it, I just like it more than amd or Radeon.

[79wjd]

Korea or America

Well, I know you said no SLI....but with a 2500-3000 build theres really no reason not to. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($339.94 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($104.99 @ Micro Center) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ NCIX US) 

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Micro Center) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($56.99 @ Micro Center) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($559.55 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($559.55 @ Newegg) 

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($136.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $2346.95

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 12:44 EDT-0400

[ChronusHan]

Yeah I guess "high end" would have been more appropriate title than "Ultimate"

[ChronusHan]

I thought there were some games that doesn't support sli. If it's not, then I would gladly go with the sli.

[79wjd]

I thought there were some games that doesn't support sli. If it's not, then I would gladly go with the sli.

Most games--any game that would require the extra power--do. 

 

If you're intention is to game at 1080p 60hz, then a single 780Ti should be more than enough, but if you plan to push the resolutions or want to play at 144hz then 780Ti SLI will be necessary. Although, at higher resolutions the R9 290/x do have a pretty big advantage as they have 4gb VRAM rather than the 780Ti's 3gb. 

[Trik'Stari]

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Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130787

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Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139022

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CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608045

[ChronusHan]

Would it be better to wait the new series of gpu? Or just go with the 700 series

[79wjd]

Would it be better to wait the new series of gpu? Or just go with the 700 series

The age old question...

 

Well, with an EVGA GPU you can "step up" (in the US anyway) to more expensive GPU for 3 months after purhcase and all you have to do is pay the difference. 

 

But, again, I suggest you decide what resolution/settings you want. as AMD might be a better choice. 

[ChronusHan]

Reasonable overclocking won't really damage a cpu. Will it decrease the lifespan? Maybe...It may only last 9 years instead of 10+. But at that point its really irrelevant. The cpu will be outdated long before a reasonable overclock burns it out. 

 

location? Any particular reason why you prefer nvidia?

Do you think amd is better than nvdia?

[79wjd]

Do you think amd is better than nvdia?

Price to performance wise, usually. If you're looking for the single most powerful card, then the 780Ti is it. But 290x's are quite powerful especially for the price--the R9 290 is on par with a 780 (non ti and is $100 less), and at higher resolutions become a necessity since 3gb of VRAM really isn't enough for multi 1440p monitors (surround gaming). 

[ChronusHan]

Do you think amd is better than nvdia?

Im on my ipad I can't type fast. Any reasons why amd is better?