HP Gaming Computer

[PaulKolby]

I was just browsing through computers and i found this HP Envy Phoenix 810qe Desktop PC and i dont think it is that bad of a deal for a prebuilt system once you upgrade the graphics card on the website. What do you guys think?

 

Heres the Link:  

 

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/Desktops?SearchParameter=%26%40QueryTerm%3D*%26categoryusagedesktops_dte2%3DGaming%26ContextCategoryUUID%3DOp0QxXjbaUcAAAE0eehcZzOt%26%40Sort.TieredPricing%3D0&ShopByUse=Gaming

[Clyne]

It would be great because you can oc it, and it also has 8gb of ram, and 2tb hdd

[Cokeman]

I was just browsing through computers and i found this HP Envy Phoenix 810qe Desktop PC and i dont think it is that bad of a deal for a prebuilt system once you upgrade the graphics card on the website. What do you guys think?

 

Heres the Link:  

 

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/Desktops?SearchParameter=%26%40QueryTerm%3D*%26categoryusagedesktops_dte2%3DGaming%26ContextCategoryUUID%3DOp0QxXjbaUcAAAE0eehcZzOt%26%40Sort.TieredPricing%3D0&ShopByUse=Gaming

Problem is a lot of these PC you can't upgrade

[brownninja97]

Hp are worse then alienware, its also silly that you can get a dell xps with better specs for a well lower price and the xps isnt marketed for gaming so to speak but its fairly good at it.

 

Honestly Hp are the worst oem company, they arent the best at anything.

[PaulKolby]

Problem is a lot of these PC you can't upgrade

Yeah but an i7 4770k is awesome and if u upgade on the website to a 770 thats quite a good gpu 

[Cokeman]

Yeah but an i7 4770k is awesome and if u upgade on the website to a 770 thats quite a good gpu 

Yeah. I have seen a lot of prebuilts and they make it so you can't upgrade them.

[PaulKolby]

y would u need to upgrade it a 770 is a custimizable option on the website

 

 

Yeah. I have seen a lot of prebuilts and they make it so you can't upgrade them.

[Clyne]

y would u need to upgrade it a 770 is a custimizable option on the website

without the the os it's around the orginal price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($334.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($130.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($66.09 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Micro Center) 

Total: $1132.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 17:20 EDT-0400

[FranBunnyFFXII]

Hp are worse then alienware, its also silly that you can get a dell xps with better specs for a well lower price and the xps isnt marketed for gaming so to speak but its fairly good at it.

 

Honestly Hp are the worst oem company, they arent the best at anything.

 

Alienware is fantastic and actually uses quality OEM parts in what they're doing, HP however I don't doubt for a second they use cheap supply crap to create these machines.

HP doesn't have the awesome customer service that Alienware does either.

[Guest]

Go for the one below it at $30 more, and you get a BluRay drive

[pizzadave2]

I wouldn't touch an HP. I've owned one. They're garbage. Build one or find a better prebuilt company.

[flibberdipper]

I had to replace the PSU in my grandma's HP with my CX430M since hers had normal coil whine and a kind of coil whine that sounded like a hard drive. Not to mention her board uses non-standard mounting for the CPU heatsink.

 

HP can die in fire.

[brownninja97]

Alienware is fantastic and actually uses quality OEM parts in what they're doing, HP however I don't doubt for a second they use cheap supply crap to create these machines.

HP doesn't have the awesome customer service that Alienware does either.

Ive always been on dells side because ive got a few contacts there, ive been offered to take an aurora for free before which i refused because my father would get pissed.

 

I know the power supplies for the modern pcs very well, the dell insprions 620, 660 and current use 80+ gold 300w psus, which are tanks, they are very good psus.

 

The xps series, 8100,8300,8500 and 8700(apart from special editions for each type) use 80+ silver 460w psus which are pretty nice but the fan is loud.

 

Some 8100s use a 350w if they have a lower end gpu gt530 etc.

 

then there is hp which have external psus, because they have LAPTOP COMPONENTS, jesus christ its crazy how can they be proud of such shit.

 

Yeah due to my old job as a pc repair guy at a shop and work experience and a small side business lead me to gain a lot of knowledge

[Wano97]

If it would be a gaming PC, why does it have an 4770k ? 

[Norwegiantweaker]

1k for that ? no thx

[flibberdipper]

Ive always been on dells side because ive got a few contacts there, ive been offered to take an aurora for free before which i refused because my father would get pissed.

 

I know the power supplies for the modern pcs very well, the dell insprions 620, 660 and current use 80+ gold 300w psus, which are tanks, they are very good psus.

 

The xps series, 8100,8300,8500 and 8700(apart from special editions for each type) use 80+ silver 460w psus which are pretty nice but the fan is loud.

 

Some 8100s use a 350w if they have a lower end gpu gt530 etc.

 

then there is hp which have external psus, because they have LAPTOP COMPONENTS, jesus christ its crazy how can they be proud of such shit.

 

Yeah due to my old job as a pc repair guy at a shop and work experience and a small side business lead me to gain a lot of knowledge

My Dell PSU out of my Optiplex GX260 (full-size desktop I guess) was rated at 300 and I frequently pushed it to 330 and it was fine. Damn thing weighs a lot more than the 300 watt PSU out of my grandma's HP and it doesn't sound hollow.

[FranBunnyFFXII]

Ive always been on dells side because ive got a few contacts there, ive been offered to take an aurora for free before which i refused because my father would get pissed.

 

I know the power supplies for the modern pcs very well, the dell insprions 620, 660 and current use 80+ gold 300w psus, which are tanks, they are very good psus.

 

The xps series, 8100,8300,8500 and 8700(apart from special editions for each type) use 80+ silver 460w psus which are pretty nice but the fan is loud.

 

Some 8100s use a 350w if they have a lower end gpu gt530 etc.

 

then there is hp which have external psus, because they have LAPTOP COMPONENTS, jesus christ its crazy how can they be proud of such shit.

 

Yeah due to my old job as a pc repair guy at a shop and work experience and a small side business lead me to gain a lot of knowledge

 

One of my best friends works for dell enterprise.

 

Funny thing is that Dell and Alienware have different OEMs and company support policies.

The best thing about Alienware since I've owned their hardware is their customer support is amazing, 2ndly their hardware is durable as fuck.

I can't believe how much abuse my Alienware laptops have put up with and how much moving around my aurora dealt with.

 

I did some research into some of Alienware's products, and they use some really highly reguard product manufacturors like Delta Electronics makes all their power supplies. And delta is highly reguarded as one of the best PSU makers.

[TetraSky]

When clicking on customizing, They gave me a free upgrade to 12GB of RAM...

There's a few things I wish I could remove, like the wireless card.
And then, I saw this

" Integrated Sound, Envy Audio; Beats Audio "

 

NOPE.

[Probenja]

Yeah but an i7 4770k is awesome and if u upgade on the website to a 770 thats quite a good gpu 

Yes but what if you can't overclock it, what is the point, just find a cheaper one with an i5. Or even better, build your own!

[CyanOG]

 

without the the os it's around the orginal price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($334.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($130.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($66.09 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Micro Center) 

Total: $1132.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 17:20 EDT-0400

 

It comes with a GTX 745 not a 770

[CyanOG]

If it would be a gaming PC, why does it have an 4770k ? 

Every pre built systems that are expensive have a i7 and go overkill on ram and cheap out on graphics 

[Wano97]

Every pre built systems that are expensive have a i7 and go overkill on ram and cheap out on graphics 

Yeap I know, just saying though

 

Final thoughts: It's BAD for 1k

[Probenja]

Every pre built systems that are expensive have a i7 and go overkill on ram and cheap out on graphics 

 

This got close enough to be good.

 

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51-r2/pd?oc=dpcwxy02s&variant=6:AMP170&model_id=alienware-x51-r2#overrides=dpcwxy02s:6~AMP170

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($182.78 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($77.98 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Dual-X Video Card  ($162.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Silverstone 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Optical Drive: Lite-On DL-8A4SH-01 DVD/CD Writer  ($53.84 @ SuperBiiz) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $869.44

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 17:55 EDT-0400

[brownninja97]

One of my best friends works for dell enterprise.

 

Funny thing is that Dell and Alienware have different OEMs and company support policies.

The best thing about Alienware since I've owned their hardware is their customer support is amazing, 2ndly their hardware is durable as fuck.

I can't believe how much abuse my Alienware laptops have put up with and how much moving around my aurora dealt with.

 

I did some research into some of Alienware's products, and they use some really highly reguard product manufacturors like Delta Electronics makes all their power supplies. And delta is highly reguarded as one of the best PSU makers.

i could be unlucky but i repaired a number of x51s back when i worked at the repair shop, one area 51 came in, their products are pretty durable with the liquid cooler being the problem, they still use old technology for fittings so the chances for problems to occur grows, i didnt know how to deal with liquid cooled system back then so my boss dealt with them of which i saw a few.

 

The most common repair was the optiplex as those things are everywhere, most of the faults come down to lack of airflow after years of usage, i just line up like 5 of them and get a leaf blower out, works like a charm and has way better bang for buck then a compressed air can.

[Yummychickenblue]

Hp are worse then alienware, its also silly that you can get a dell xps with better specs for a well lower price and the xps isnt marketed for gaming so to speak but its fairly good at it.

 

Honestly Hp are the worst oem company, they arent the best at anything.

But their machines have an approachable design.