New build CPU Purchase Help Needed (AMD)

[Kryhm]

Hiya everyone, I am building a new PC soon and am having trouble selecting a CPU:

 

The Specs I am planning are This: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/18YCMAJ78FBS/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_o?

 

The CPU on that list is a FX 8350, I want to use a Cooler Master Nepton 280L Cooler to cool it.

 

I would want to OC the chip as using WC I feel I might aswell. BUT I have herd about the FX 9370 and the higher stock clock speed and I am not sure what one to purchase. 

 

Im Not sure if I should get the 8350 or the 9370. The 9370 is about £50 ($83) more expensive and im not sure if its worth the extra investment for the extra Clock Speed and the Hunger for Power and Cooling.

 

Would love to know your opinions as I want the most Bang for my Buck. 

 

Cheers

Sam

 

PS: First Post sorry. I am a bit of a newbie, and this would be my first OC

Edited August 19, 2014 by Kryhm

[BloodWithIce]

Get the 8320 and oc it, same thing...

[dragoon20005]

the 9370 is basically a 8350 OC

 

with the nepton

 

you can OC the 8350 to 9370 or even the 9590

 

but you need a beefy board using the 990FX chipset only

[harrynowl]

Build doesn't really make sense, you'd find it better to get a 4690k and a z97 g55 sli and that case is super expensive for what it is. Blue ray drive... if you want it I guess I'd buy a used one or something on ebay myself.

 

Also I'm assuming you intend to store a lot of things with a 3tb drive, problem is that's not the best choice unless you have a backup server or something anyway as if it dies you lose it. so you can do raid 1 of 2 tb drives for redundancy. 

 

Swapped 780ti for 290x, 290x performs better than 780 and almost as good as 780ti in a lot of games but is the price of 780

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£164.34 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£81.59 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£81.56 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£64.39 @ Aria PC) 

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£69.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£49.98 @ Aria PC) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£49.98 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£398.75 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  (£90.07 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £1145.64

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 11:26 BST+0100

[Sauron]

Welcome to the forum @Kryhm ! Rmemeber to follow your posts so you're notified when someone answers, otherwise people will need to mention you like I did (the "follow this topic" button is on the top right). Make sure you read the coc before posting and most of all make sure you have fun

 

Back to your question, I do not recommend the 9370 as it is way too hot and power hungry to be a good option. You'd find yourself spending a ton of money on liquid cooling and that would negate the lower cost of the cpu itself. I say get an 8320, which is a great price/performance oriented option and overclock it a bit, maybe get a decent air cooler on it, otherwise go intel and get a core i5 4690k, it's a great cpu and overclocked can easily beat the 9370 even on air (I recommend this for a high end build).

 

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oh, and don't get a 780ti, for the same price you can get 2 r9 290s and have 80% more performance.

[Kryhm]

Build doesn't really make sense, you'd find it better to get a 4690k and a z97 g55 sli and that case is super expensive for what it is. Blue ray drive... if you want it I guess I'd buy a used one or something on ebay myself.

For the case all i care about is looks. And I like it. Im pretty fixed on FX Chips as theyre cheeper and they do what I want them for.

Also I'm assuming you intend to store a lot of things with a 3tb drive, problem is that's not the best choice unless you have a backup server or something anyway as if it dies you lose it. so you can do raid 1 of 2 tb drives for redundancy.

The 3tb drive is for films and TV shows. If i lose them its no biggie but I like to have them all in one place

[harrynowl]

For the case all i care about is looks. And I like it. Im pretty fixed on FX Chips as theyre cheeper and they do what I want them for.

Well just keep in mind in a lot of games you'll limit performance of your 780ti, are you wanting to play extremely graphically intensive games at higher than 1080p resolution? if you aren't then I'd probably step down to 780 or even 290.

 

The 3tb drive is for films and TV shows. If i lose them its no biggie but I like to have them all in one place

well if you RAID1 the drives you'll see a single volume, but if you don't mind losing them then I guess a single drive is fine.

[Faceman]

For the case all i care about is looks. And I like it. Im pretty fixed on FX Chips as theyre cheeper and they do what I want them for.

That is not true.  FX chips will bottleneck 780/290 and they wont play a lot of games well.  Particularly Skyrim, Diablo, Starcraft, any MMO, DayZ, ARMA, League of Legends, etc..  If you are willing to spend the money on liquid cooling, just buy an Intel processor from the start, get the better performance and add a liquid cooler later.

 

Also, stay away from HDDs that are larger than 2TB, they have high failure rates.  All HDDs are prone to failure, but 2TB and above are even more likely to fail.

 

The build that Harrynowl did is perfect, the only thing I would change is the case.  Go for the Phanteks Enthoo Pro.

[Ialyrn]

That is not true.  FX chips will bottleneck 780/290 and they wont play a lot of games well.  Particularly Skyrim

That is a load of bull, I was playing skyrim on high settings with an FX-4300 at stock speeds, and a crappy GT630 without any issues what so ever; and that is with running a fair few mods also. That graphics card is now in my boyfriends pc, and he only has an AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5GHz and 4gb of DDR2 800MHz; and even that is running skyrim on high without any issues. There is nothing wrong with the FX chips at all, and they work fairly well. I only had a budget of £330 when I built this system originally (well over a year ago now). It was either a very cheap and limiting laptop, or build a very tight budget orientated pc that I can upgrade slowly over time. I have every intention of going for an i7 myself at some point (unless AMD release a better, newer CPU that can compete against the best intel have to offer), but the system I have at the moment wont be 100% retired. It will just be relegated to a secondary machine for my boyfriend to use, and a few other things. Sure the FX chips are not as good as the higher end intel CPU's, but they are not as crap as people like to make out.

[Faceman]

That is a load of bull, I was playing skyrim on high settings with an FX-4300 at stock speeds, and a crappy GT630 without any issues what so ever; and that is with running a fair few mods also. That graphics card is now in my boyfriends pc, and he only has an AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5GHz and 4gb of DDR2 800MHz; and even that is running skyrim on high without any issues. There is nothing wrong with the FX chips at all, and they work fairly well. I only had a budget of £330 when I built this system originally (well over a year ago now). It was either a very cheap and limiting laptop, or build a very tight budget orientated pc that I can upgrade slowly over time. I have every intention of going for an i7 myself at some point (unless AMD release a better, newer CPU that can compete against the best intel have to offer), but the system I have at the moment wont be 100% retired. It will just be relegated to a secondary machine for my boyfriend to use, and a few other things. Sure the FX chips are not as good as the higher end intel CPU's, but they are not as crap as people like to make out.

In the cities in Skyrim when there were a lot of people around, I doubt you had excellent performance with an FX-4.  It is playable, there is no denying that, but it is not optimal.  You will get the same results on an FX4 as an FX8 in a lightly threaded game because the single core performance of the FX line is atrocious. 

 

If you plan to play any games that are lightly threaded, you are going to have a rough time playing them.  If you have high end GPUs, they are going to be bottlenecked by the FX. You may not notice the bottleneck on a 60Hz monitor, but that doesn't mean the bottleneck is not there.

 

You also don't need an i7 for gaming.  An i5 is all you need for gaming, there is no current benefit to getting an i7 over an i5 if all you do is game.  Save your money for a better GPU instead of going for an i7.

[Ialyrn]

In the cities in Skyrim when there were a lot of people around, I doubt you had excellent performance with an FX-4.  It is playable, there is no denying that, but it is not optimal.

Right....

I had one hiccup at the 4:55 mark in the video, in which I did get a frame drop. But I was running a few other things in the background at the same time (skype, and a couple of other programs), as well as recording the gameplay. But please, tell me where that not optimal? Also, I never said my pc was used just for gaming. I do digital painting, 3d work, photo editing, some video editing, and some live streaming on this very pc. And yes, I can (and have) streamed live gameplay from skyrim. The FX-4300 has proven to be capable time and time again.