Will we ever see monitor specs cross over to TV's?

[Logun]

Will we ever see some of the new monitor technologies cross over and be implemented into TV's? Specifically I'm thinking about Gsync and Freesync being implemented into 4K TVs'

 

As well as pushing higher refresh rates to larger screens.

 

I would love nothing more than to have a 50" or 55" 4K TV which has a max refresh rate of 120Hz and integerated Gsync or freesync. (I believe Display Port 1.3 has a bit enough bit rate to allow for that)

 

I want the world!

 

I did some testing a number of months ago with the Seiki 39" TV, with the 50" firmware flashed on it to enable true 120Hz refresh at 1080p. 

1) 4K truly is eye-popping gorgeous. Instantly noticeable

2) 120Hz was nice but not as instantly noticeable as the resolution improvement (and this is coming from someone who has been at 1600p for the last few years)

3) obviously the GPU horse power is slowly catching up which makes the Sync technologies just about a "must-have" if you're planning on playing anything from the past 5 years or so.

 

Is the market for such a panel just too small? Should I being to look into an indiegogo project akin to what these guys did? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ncase-m1-mini-itx-pc-case

 

an indiegogo project for this kind of thing would probably never fly

[Freaky_spider]

TV's arent meant for gaming, all movies are filmed at 24 FPS (some exceptions), so there is no need for 144hz TV's

[Logun]

True but even now they are testing out filming at different FPS - unless The Hobbit was the first(?) and last of it's kind

[Firearm2112]

One example would be the Hobbit movie series. Its shot at 48FPS. But I cant see companies making special TVs for these few rare occasions.  

[helping]

No, because monitor specs on a TV is not necessary, and there are penalties to forcing those specs on a TV with our current technology. 

 

Currently the "Game" mode along with normal TV specs is the optimal configuration for a modern TV. 

[ZetZet]

I'm waiting for 4k tv with dp input for a reasonable price.

[LarsReviews]

My TV screen is already pretty great, The only thing is that it is limited by HDMI. 

[RelentlessAF]

One example would be the Hobbit movie series. Its shot at 48FPS. But I cant see companies making special TVs for these few rare occasions.  

All movies are shot at 60FPS, they are rendered at 24FPS and The Hobbit was rendered at 48FPS.

[mvitkun]

@Logun There'd be no reason.

In a game your FPS may fluctuate dramatically depending on the ingame scenario, and because you're moving and are inputting actions and then waiting for a result any type of lag is easily noticed.

So V-Sync fixes the tearing, but it adds input lag.

G-Sync and FreeSync would prevent input lag, or at least minimize it, prevent screen tearing from inconsistency between the refresh rate of the monitor and the rate at which your graphics card renders the scene, and by preventing such inconsistency would also make lower FPS more playable.

 

But when you're watching a show what would make you notice any latency that was added by a V-Sync type function?

You aren't controlling anything in the show, aren't interacting with it in any way, you're just observing it.

 

What would make a show feel less fluid when it runs at a constant fps and has natural motion blur that compensate for the low fps.

 

So there's no problem with FPS dipping or going above the refresh rate, as you're just playing a stream and it's just playing it back (vs. a game where you render the scene and depending on the scenes complexity your fps will change), there's no problem with input latency.

There's really no reason for them to implement it other than for people who use their TV as a Display for their PC; Very few companies would spend the money necessary for the research and development to bring such a product to market as the market for a TV that has a cost which is much higher than other TVs with similar features, and many features that are only functional when used in tandem with a PC that has a graphics card that is compatible with these technologies, simply isn't there.

 

I mean imagine trying to sell a TV like that to a regular person.

"This TV has awesome features X,Y, and Z, Content for X has not yet been made available to consumers, and you can only benefit from Y and Z by using this with a PC that has a Kepler graphics card in it (or GCN 1.1 for FreeSync)."

[Glenwing]

Even if movies are shot at different framerates, any display can adjust its refresh rate.  G-Sync/FreeSync are different because they allow dynamically changing framerate, something that movies don't need.  They always show at a constant framerate, no matter what that rate happens to be.  I doubt TV makers will be interested in the extra expense of variable refresh technologies, since even though people do play games on TVs, the majority of content is movies and shows.  For those, continuously changing refresh rate isn't used, and if the content is at a different framerate then the display can change to that frequency in the normal way and stay there.  Not saying that TVs actually do that now, but the point is, content at different framerates won't be a reason to implement variable refresh.

[Arty]

TV's arent meant for gaming, all movies are filmed at 24 FPS (some exceptions), so there is no need for 144hz TV's

Newer movies are adopting higher framerates (slowly) and new movies are filmed in 4k and the 3d ones could benift (a little bit) from higher hz tv's..Keep in mind this is all slow changes and some don't effect much.

[Firearm2112]

Maybe they will come out with "Gaming TVs" that are not only larger but have a higher refresh rate

[Logun]

I am very hopeful because IMO 4K and 24" just don't mesh well - at least not for those of us who don't have natural 20/20 vision.

 

even at 39" I found text on games like Civ5 incredibly hard to read without leaning into to 1-2' away.

 

I am encouraged by seeing 4K monitors at 28"-32" so I'm hoping the manufactures will see people with 2-3 monitor setup and test market a ~50" screen at that demographic....

[Trik'Stari]

Why would they do that? Then the console peasants might get wise as to what they've been duped into buying