well this is embarrassing! !

[Ialyrn]

My msi 970a g43 just died on me, oh well, it was only a budget motherboard anyway. Took the whole thing out of the case to test with spare graphics cards (and other components), just wont post. I have just ordered the msi 970 gaming to replace it with. First msi component that has ever died on me. At least I can give my case a proper clean before Tuesday when the new mobo arrives. Least my gtx780 is ok, tested it in my boyfriends system just to make sure. Will have to wait till tuesday to see if my corsair vengeance 1600 ddr3 ram is ok, boyfriends system is so old, it is running ddr2 lol.

[Manny Calavera]

what happened? what OC, chip, voltage?

 

i read before about low end msi am3+ mobos failing yea

[Vendetta]

Uhm what cpu are you running?

[Vacsol]

Yikes.

 

Uhm what cpu are you running?

AMD FX 4300 3.8GHz according to her profile

[AMICLG]

I don't mean to sound like an ass but it's expected on AMD budget boards especially when OCing, luckily all your other components are safe.

[Ialyrn]

Fx 4300, system has run solid for well over a year. Its no biggie really, these things happen. Was going to replace the motherboard and cpu at some point anyway, but will have to be just the motherboard for now. I have some artic silver 5 on order too, as I will have to reuse the fx 4300 for now.

[Vendetta]

Fx 4300, system has run solid for well over a year. Its no biggie really, these things happen. Was going to replace the motherboard and cpu at some point anyway, but will have to be just the motherboard for now. I have some artic silver 5 on order too, as I will have to reuse the fx 4300 for now.

Ahh ok, well I highly suggest getting a 990fx board instead of another 970 board. A 990fx board should never die on you and you won't have to worry about not having enough power phases if you ever upgrade to like a fx8350.

 

Edit* Just looked that msi 970 gaming up and it actually has a decent amount of power phases, shouldn't have any problems with that board.

[Ialyrn]

The msi 970 gaming hasn't long been released, so should be ok with that. Besides, budget is tight as I have already purchased a new psu and graphics card in the last month

[thefunnymuffingamer]

I know that with most moboz you are going to overclock with you want a cooler on your north bridge and VRM would recommend a gigabyte 990fx ud3 rev 4 it's a great overclocking board I have it and love it also jayztwocents recommends it

[harrynowl]

At least you're like no biggie, most people are like "x brand is total garbage blah blah"

[Ialyrn]

I have been using msi for a very long time. This is the first one i have had brick on me, and it only cost me £50 to begin with. So i am ok with it.

[rentaspoon]

My msi 970a g43 just died on me, oh well, it was only a budget motherboard anyway. Took the whole thing out of the case to test with spare graphics cards (and other components), just wont post. I have just ordered the msi 970 gaming to replace it with. First msi component that has ever died on me. At least I can give my case a proper clean before Tuesday when the new mobo arrives. Least my gtx780 is ok, tested it in my boyfriends system just to make sure. Will have to wait till tuesday to see if my corsair vengeance 1600 ddr3 ram is ok, boyfriends system is so old, it is running ddr2 lol.

Just got the MSI 970 gaming myself very impressed

Currently doing it's first stress test

Yea I'm a MSI fan boy

[thefunnymuffingamer]

Ok well what kind of oc do you get with that chip ?

[harrynowl]

Just got the MSI 970 gaming myself very impressed

Currently doing it's first stress test

What's the VRM like?

[rentaspoon]

What's the VRM like?

You mean looks wise?

[thefunnymuffingamer]

You mean looks wise?

I think he ment the vrm cooler

[harrynowl]

I think he ment the vrm cooler

Both

 

You mean looks wise?

Ballerness wise. Might replace 970-UD3p as my standard test bench. Can it take 1.575v?

[Sintezza]

the msi 970A-G43/G45/G46 are all rubbish basicly.

They have very well known overheating issues wenn overclocked. 

Msi improved on the G46 with a bigger heatsink, but it still not realy solved the problem.

With a FX4300 on stock or a slight overclock, it would be fine, but overclocking nope.

Thats probably why the board has died on you.

4300 offcourse uses less power then a FX 8 core, so thats probably the reason why the board lasted that long.

 

The new msi 970 Gaming, is a nice board with nice feutures 6+2 powerphase and digi vrm´s, 4 Nikos mosfets per choke., it seems like to overclock a whole allot better. it has basicly the same powerphase design as the Z97 gaming 5.

 

But still the vrm´s getting a bit to hot for my taste.

But yeah some people achieved 4.7Ghz with an FX 8 core on it, so thats basicly not bad for a cheap board like that.

It only gets a bit to hot for my taste, but no throttling as far as ive read about it.

 

Grtz Sintezza.

[rentaspoon]

Both

Ballerness wise. Might replace 970-UD3p as my standard test bench. Can it take 1.575v?

Any good to you? TBH I'm running stock with stock cooler as I sold my air cooler a while back to save for water cooling.

VRM is sweet and is getting a bit warm but not enough to scare me.

Temps showing on core temp are are 31c idle and 53c load using article silver 5 (was hoping to use MX4 but lost in the post) and fan running constantly at max @1.375v

Anything else you want to know?

Edit: this is apparently built for the 9 series

[rentaspoon]

Can it take 1.575v?

Just looked and seen a pic of an over clock of 4.8 on a 8350 on 1.56v so would say yez

[harrynowl]

Any good to you? TBH I'm running stock with stock cooler as I sold my air cooler a while back to save for water cooling. VRM is sweet and is getting a bit warm but not enough to scare me. Temps showing on core temp are are 31c idle and 53c load using article silver 5 (was hoping to use MX4 but lost in the post) and fan running constantly at max @1.375v Anything else you want to know? Edit: this is apparently built for the 9 series

The chokes look a little small, not sure how that impacts anything. I'll wait and see if other overclockers think it's good

Just looked and seen a pic of an over clock of 4.8 on a 8350 on 1.56v so would say yez

Good

 

Thanks for that

[rentaspoon]

The chokes look a little small, not sure how that impacts anything. I'll wait and see if other overclockers think it's good

Good

Thanks for that

No problem, just reapplied the thermal paste and dropped 10c, just got a "stable" over clock on my athlon x3 450 - 3.9 unlocked to a quad core

Haven't tested it long enough to be happy though

[harrynowl]

No problem, just reapplied the thermal paste and dropped 10c, just got a "stable" over clock on my athlon x3 450 - 3.9 unlocked to a quad core

Haven't tested it long enough to be happy though

Nice. My X3 435 unlocked but didn't get past 3.1ghz

[Faa]

The chokes look a little small, not sure how that impacts anything. I'll wait and see if other overclockers think it's good

Thats enough, other boards might use bigger cases so they can throw more glue in there to secure the coils better so it doesnt coil whine.

This is a pic from a TUF board:

 

Anyways a proper 4 phase pwm chip is actually plenty for 8350's, the Asus P9x79 pro is a 4+1 design that kicks a 3930K quite easily to 5GHz so yea The main problem with 8350's and 3930K's always has been mosfet cooling, its worse on 3930K's but most amd motherboards are using cheap mosfets that are providing so much less current as soon as the temps rise. Heatsinks are only cooling the mosfets, no point cooling the chokes which only have copper wires in them.

 

[harrynowl]

Thats enough, other boards might use bigger cases so they can throw more glue in there to secure the coils better so it doesnt coil whine.

This is a pic from a TUF board:

 

Anyways a proper 4 phase pwm chip is actually plenty for 8350's, the Asus P9x79 pro is a 4+1 design that kicks a 3930K quite easily to 5GHz so yea The main problem with 8350's and 3930K's always has been mosfet cooling, its worse on 3930K's but most amd motherboards are using cheap mosfets that are providing so much less current as soon as the temps rise. Heatsinks are only cooling the mosfets, no point cooling the chokes which only have copper wires in them.

 

I don't really know all that much about VRMs and their parts. I just try and avoid cheap boards with 500 power phases

 

My FM2A88X Extreme6+ seems to have a case of poo VRM as it throttles like mad despite being advertised as an overclocking grade motherboard