Antisemitism is on the rise around the world.

[meritmaster]

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/anti-semitism-is-growing-as-world-condemns-israel-for-gaza-strikes/

    It's been on the rise for years, and it's taking root in Europe once more, as it has invaded your politics, it has once more made a name for it's self in a multitude of places, and one still using a more modern swastika.

    One of the first countries to be hit by antisemitism is Greece, and the Golden dawn party. This group was formed during an economic crisis, and voted into government seat to 'fix the problem', just as Hitler did with economic crisis that
struck the Weimar Republic; in fact this is history repeating it'self, and in a place where Nazis took out a big chunk of their population.

 

   http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_occupation_of_Greece

   This was only around 70 years ago, but yet we find the same group thriving in greece; how insane could that country be?

    The real problem is that the people were so depended on another giving them their 'needs', but when their economically insane doctrine of socialist economics fell to destiny, and then they lost their minds; they didn't even know what to do; ever since they were kids they were taught policies of Robin Hood like economics, and fell into the lie of redistribution of wealth, so they knew nothing else, but to let someone else take care of them, and not take control of their on life, and survival. When people end falling for the socialist economics, and they see it fail, they tend to scramble to find someone who they think can help; It enables people like Hitler to take charge, and provide a 'solution'; this is happening in Greece; people are facing austerity (due to them not being self relent), and they are desperately looking for a solution; to the greek people, the Golden Dawn Party seems like a winner, as they have been stuffing food, and money down voters throats, so they can get their foot in the door.

   This is a normal socialist practice of gaining support; communist found out during the holodor that food is a serious weapon, and the USSR perpetrated a mass systematic killing of the Ukrainian people in 1933; they ended up murdering 7 million people. After the holomdor, The Soviet Union knew the power of food, and it's uses to commit it's awful crimes. A good example to relate the current situation of the Greek people is something that the North Koreans were doing in World War II; The North Koreans had wavering support among the people did not control; The South Koreans during the war found themselves to be starving, and in famine due to wartime; the communist north took advantage of this crisis, and started trading food for support, and soon enough South Koreans are chanting their support for communism.

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before"-Rahm Emanuel 

If you look up Golden Dawn, watch videos, and overhear them denying their connection of their group, and the Nazis, don't believe them. They claim they are nothing like the Nazis, and if you say so "you're just an idiot", or "you're just ignorant". but in reality the greek people as a collective is ignorant of the political onslaught to come.

All you really have to due is look at the extreme nationalism they are showing, and peer at the flag that they hold. {http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/09/AsPC2OuCQAES-g-e1379986943158.jpg|http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/files/images/golden_dawn2_0.jpg|https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/5/1/1335890775853/Golden-Dawn-party--in-ath-008.jpg|https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/1/17/1389972802909/Golden-Dawn-pictures-014.jpg|http://greece.greekreporter.com/files/National-Dawn_Greece.jpg}. If you look further than their image, and dig down into their politics; you will find a deep hatred for immigrants, not illegal immigrants, but the legal ones, as they blame them for all their problems, and the inability to be fed, and tooken care of by their government; they are 'leeches' on their society apparently, but in reality the country is a leech off the success of the successful. They want to kick everyone that's not Greek out. Nationalist Socialism-Nazi

Let's look at Russia now; one of the first Marxist empires to exist actually at one point allied with The Nazis, as they share the same doctrine of socialism, but the difference between them was that the USSR was a Globalist Socialist country; they both interpret the book of Marx differently.

Russia is similar to the Germany people saw after World War I; they feel as they have had their pride stolen from them, and are constantly looking for a solution to reassert their former murderous false glory. The propaganda for the Soviet Union is still alive, and the Russian people by the shine, and glow. The people in Russia are mostly socialist, as they are ignorant of any other system, the public school system of the USSR, and Putin made sure of so; most people in Russia still look at socialism to be a legitimate form of government, so they pummel themselves with Marxist though, and one of Marxist most loyal followers was Adolf Hitler.

Here is an example of Nazism in Russia: (warning very graphic) http://www.cameldog.net/stoned-wasted/108644-russian-neo-nazis-kill-two-spanish-immigrants.html

Now in Britian i have been seeing tides of AntiSemitic ideology, and it's hard to see the US's cousin fall to such lows, but don't worry we have to. Since this new Israel-Palestine conflict (of which was started by the people of Palestine) we are faced with antisemitism taking place not just in the Gaza Strip, but by the world; a few days during my studies, i wandered upon this video of the English House of Commons, and was utterly disgusted by  how much Palestinian side was represented by seats of your government; It's disgusting to see England even think that Israel is committing "war crimes".

One man claimed the Invasion of Gaza is against UN law, but who started the battle? Who is the one who launched missile, mortar, and failed infantry attacks against Israel not even a day after peace talks? Apparently to these British government officials that doesn't matter, and they continue to say Israel is the evil aggressor (one man called it The Israeli prime ministers seat in elected office a "regime"; just lol); they say that Israel needs to make peace, and succumb to terrorist demands, but they tried to make peace, and Hamas abused the opportunity for peace for a strategic time to attack; it failed, and back fired. If anyone thinks it's okay for another country to attack innocent civilians on a mass scale; i don't get you, or how you have come across that opinion, but your wrong.

One man named "Sir Nicholas Soames" Said this @ 0:00-0:23 "This is not just a  war about rockets from both sides, but it's actually about illegal settlement, and stolen land...rambles on", so  first of all, why does the UK still have North Ireland? Second wouldn't you want back land previously stolen from you through genocide, and murder? 

Next is "Sir Gerald Kaufman" he states "among thee 173 innocent civilians slaughter by the Israelis in Gaza was the inhabitants of a disables peoples home, and a hospital was hit as well", but yet he fails to know that's where Hamas hides their munitions, and conducts their operations; places such as Schools, Hospitals, heavily populated housing, and things of this nature are used in hope of civilian casualties to promote anti Israel support around the world. One such school Hamas hid there rockets in was a UN school; yep that's right, so much for UN law that was previously stated to be law of the land for Israel, but not Palestine? 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=84c_1405610020

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/11/the-unsportsmanlike-place-hamas-has-hidden-rocket-launchers/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/u-n-reveals-20-rockets-were-secretly-stored-in-one-of-its-gaza-schools/

Hamas has been putting children near rocket site, and places like these to purposely put them in the line of fire; where is the outcry? 

How many people died in the crossfire of WWII, and WWI? Their will always be crossfire in war, but what would you do if London got hit by 300 rockets a week? Every day you have to listen for a siren, and have then having only 15 seconds to find a safe place, and this happening multiple times a day, what would you do if this happened every few years, and will not stop due to the Jihad that has been called on Israel. Does no one realize ISIS, the new uprising for a modern caliphate, and of which has not been seen since world war I with the Ottoman empire; the empire in which your country took out; i'm talking to you Englishmen out there.

Does Europe not remember the pillaging, and wars the Ottoman Empire has caused for Europe? They raided, and took The Byzantine Empire, and the Serbs; the committed genocide, and murdered non Muslims in Armenia; they waged war against Austria, Hungry, Venice, and raided trade, of which resulted in the Barbary wars, thus why one of the forefathers Thomas Jefferson had a Koran; he received the Koran in Syria where he talked to ottoman officials, and asked why they were raiding the US's trade routes, and they just replied because we believe you must die, so the caliphate can spread; this was to a country just starting out, and not meddling in others affairs. They also raided British, and various Europeans trading vessels.

Why is Britain giving Sunni Muslims a upper hand in this conflict that they have started not just in Israel, but all over the middles east, and also in your own towns: 

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Notice the black flags of the caliphate that fly in London's streets.

Remember that slaughter that took place in the streets 

Please think about what it's like in Israel, surrounded by people who want to force sharia on you; some are trying to get nuclear weapons, some are trying to accomplish this by a massive invasion of Israel; these people don't want peace! Palestine never wanted peace, and never will.

Now look at the #Hitlerwasright epidemic http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/13/twitterverse-declares-hitler-was-right/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/HitlerWasRight?src=hash

If you notice sometimes it's tied into #freePalestine; also fun fact, does anyone know what Iran means when translated? Aryan; the Nazis instilled their hatred of the jewish people into the muslim culture, and along with the USSR as a last ditch effort to destroy the west  
 

 http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/103576/the-cold-wars-arab-spring

Other sources (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZjyyAE-78){Gotta find the ENlgish subtitle version, but you can find one on google, as i have before}.

[Katsu-K1L]

i honestly wish religion as a whole disappears ever since the dawn of Humanity religion brought trouble upon humans.

[meritmaster]

i honestly wish religion as a whole disappears ever since the dawn of Humanity religion brought trouble upon humans.

Ah and you must of not read anything. 

Communism killed more, and they following a Darwin/Marxist doctrine; Holomdor, the holocaust, Mao's genocide, and the millions who suffered under Marxist rule.

Atheism has brought slaughter bigger than any other

[Katsu-K1L]

Not in the mood to argue about this, just want to quote something

 

While it is true that Stalin and Mao were atheists and that they did not believe in any deities, it is also true that they did not commit their immoral acts because of something they read in the “Gospel of Richard Dawkins” or in “The Holy Book of Atheism.” The reason for this is because there are no such books. The problem with the implication is that the theist is equating atheism with a religion. But there is no doctrine of atheism. All atheism is, is a lack of belief in deities. There are no holy atheists and there are no infallible atheist books laying out dogma and doctrine.

Stalin and Hitler also both had mustaches. Does that mean that mustaches cause tyranny? This is where the theist will often assert that the lack of belief – or more accurately the lack of fear in God acts as a restraint on human’s natural sinfulness. This is a really poor argument for multiple reasons.

[Misanthrope]

Oh come on. I won't comment on whenever or not merely supporting Palestine is flatout anti Semitic because there's a lot of innocents targeted and Israels response is as usual: disproportionate and outright criminal: Go after confirmed Hamas targets, if you cannot confirm them or cannot be sure it's safe to launch an air strike, you do not just bomb fucking hospitals filled with innocent people and call it collateral damage.

Now I'm sure you can talk a lot about who has a more historical claim to the territories, who has more violent tactics overall, whatever: the death toll is heavily biased and as usual for every dozen innocent Israeli people killed there's a few hundred innocent Palestinians killed. Even many of my Jewish friends hate Israel's policy and go as far as asserting their faith while denouncing Israel's policies and war. 

[meritmaster]

Not in the mood to argue about this, just want to quote something

Atheists have denied the natural laws, and of which are the Judeo-Christian laws in which the US was founded upon; life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; perhaps not all atheist, but a mass majority tend to be socialists.

Social Darwinism is a form Darwin belief  as a social mechanism that was used by corrupt societies all over the world, but Darwinism took root in The Soviet Union when Lenin proclaimed it to be true, and that the country would follow those standards.

  "it is also true that they did not commit their immoral acts because of something they read in the “Gospel of Richard Dawkins” or in “The Holy Book of Atheism."

 

“Gospel of Richard Dawkins"

Darwins writing while on the gaelopos (however it's spelt) islands?

Did you not know that Marx actually supported  Darwin in his findings, and led to some ideas the the communist manifesto?  The two are tied together.

"Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural science for the class struggle in history. One has to put up with the crude English method of development, of course. Despite all deficiencies not only is the death-blow dealt here for the first time to 'teleology' in the natural sciences, but their rational meaning is empirically explained."

 

“Communism begins where atheism begins…”-Karl Marx

“The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion” (Karl Marx)

“I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above.” (Karl Marx)

“Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.” (attributed to Vladimir I. Lenin)

“Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.” (V.I. Lenin)

 "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" (Stalin)

 

Die Religion ist der Seufzer der bedrängten Kreatur, das Gemüt einer herzlosen Welt, wie sie der Geist geistloser Zustände ist. Sie ist das Opium des Volks. Die Aufhebung der Religion als des illusorischen Glücks des Volks ist die Forderung seines wirklichen Glücks.

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of spiritless conditions. It is the opium of the people. To abolish religion as the illusory happiness of the people is to demand their real happiness. 

— Karl Marx

'Zur Kritik der Hegelschen Rechtsphilosophie. Einleitung' (1844), Karl Marx Fredrich Engels (1964), 378-9. 

[meritmaster]

Oh look, even more pro-Israel bias. 

Bias? 

How about you present your argument, as i'm sure you're biased yourself, and always have been.

[Hidden Orange]

I think "anti-everything" has been on the rise for quite a while.

[meritmaster]

Oh come on. I won't comment on whenever or not merely supporting Palestine is flatout anti Semitic because there's a lot of innocents targeted and Israels response is as usual: disproportionate and outright criminal: Go after confirmed Hamas targets, if you cannot confirm them or cannot be sure it's safe to launch an air strike, you do not just bomb fucking hospitals filled with innocent people and call it collateral damage.

Now I'm sure you can talk a lot about who has a more historical claim to the territories, who has more violent tactics overall, whatever: the death toll is heavily biased and as usual for every dozen innocent Israeli people killed there's a few hundred innocent Palestinians killed. Even many of my Jewish friends hate Israel's policy and go as far as asserting their faith while denouncing Israel's policies and war. 

Well you obviously didn't even read what i wrote, and that shows you're pretty biased on your beliefs.

"you do not just bomb fucking hospitals filled with innocent people and call it collateral damage."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/30/terror-groups-reportedly-hiding-missiles-military-assets-in-apartment-buildings-mosques-and-water-reservoirs/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/u-n-reveals-20-rockets-were-secretly-stored-in-one-of-its-gaza-schools/

They tried to do peace talks, but Palestine ABUSED it for an opportunity to attack; they sent rockets, mortars, and foot soldiers. http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/IDF-thwarts-13-Gaza-terrorists-from-attempted-infiltration-into-Israel-363133

What do you expect them to do? They are outnumbered, and don't have enough missiles to toss at the incoming Hamas rockets for ever; their is no easy way of getting, and especially when they are hiding behind children, all so people like you can be tricked, and say: "O look what the jews did", so Palestine is just as responsible for the civilian deaths as much as you think Israel is.

Didn't you know Israel warned everyone to get out of Gaza, and their was an attack being planned on Gaza? http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/07/13/331122214/palestinians-flee-gaza-after-israel-drops-warning-leaflets

Who started this? Palestine, and Hamas  

 

[Misanthrope]

Actually that's one of the concepts that is almost universally welcomed now: The separation of Church and State. You don't have to take a hardcore Marxist view on the abolishment of religion to understand that is just better for all, including religious people, to keep such matters out of the Government and Social policies. Even states that had a very anti religious agenda like Cuba have started to revert those policies, I have friends that often go on a caravan to bring humanitarian aid to Cuba called "Pastor's for Peace" so that entire argument is mostly invalid in today's world.

And if the result of your views on Religion based political parties and governments results in both sides being as barbaric as Israel and Palestine, then thanks but no thanks, keep that stuff on your churches, synagogues and mosques. 

[Trik'Stari]

Ah and you must of not read anything. 

Communism killed more, and they following a Darwin/Marxist doctrine; Holomdor, the holocaust, Mao's genocide, and the millions who suffered under Marxist rule.

Atheism has brought slaughter bigger than any other

Absolutely, factually, completely untrue. While communism and socialism has killed millions, Religion has killed billions and is equally bad. Athiesm, while often associated with communism and socialism, is not a necessity for socialism and or communism. Your equating a lack of religious belief with a lack of value for himan life, which is wildly innaccurate.

 

Not to mention that religion has set mankind back far more than the good (if any) it actually does.

[daemonowner]

Darwinism and atheism has killed hundreds of millions? Hitler was an atheist? Fucking lol.

[Misanthrope]

They tried to do peace talks, but Palestine ABUSED it for an opportunity to attack; they sent rockets, mortars, and foot soldiers.

 

Again, how does that justifies bombing hospitals? Even if you hole heatedly believe that Hamas puts children and civilians in harm's way, that's still no moral justification for carpet bombing the fuck out of an area filled with innocents. It is NOT ok to fight terrorism with worst and more widespread terrorism. 

[meritmaster]

Absolutely, factually, completely untrue. While communism and socialism has killed millions, Religion has killed billions and is equally bad. Athiesm, while often associated with communism and socialism, is not a necessity for socialism and or communism. Your equating a lack of religious belief with a lack of value for himan life, which is wildly innaccurate.

 

Not to mention that religion has set mankind back far more than the good (if any) it actually does.

Tell me which part of "thou shall not kill" says "thou shall kill millions, and billions"

Also nice facts their Jr.

"Not to mention that religion has set mankind back far more than the good (if any) it actually does." Without the bible America, and the US would not exists, and same with the thousands of years we put mankind forward to. 

The free market stems from the bible, and judeo-Christian law; The Free Market is what set technology on a rampage. Benjamin Franklin, Edison, Tesla, Farhnesworth, the polio guys, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and anyone who has succeeded in changing the world.

 

[Trik'Stari]

Oh look, even more pro-Israel bias. 

I would challenge any "pro palestinian" person, to find a map dating before 1900, with a country on it called Palestine. The simple fact is, this country has not, and should not, exist.

There has never been any such country, that land was offered to the muslims at the end of world war 2, when they declined and the "jews" said yes, then all of a sudden it became sacred holy land.

Palestine and Islam are as a whole, organizations based on racial hatred that started with the prophet muhammed being the bastard son of Abraham.

 

Learn your friggin history liberals, just because your college professor tells you something doesn't make it true. and while we're at it, socialism is not better than capitalism in any way shape or form, and is in fact responsible for many millions of deaths around the world.

 

You think Hitler was evil? compared to good comerade stalin, hitler was a complete and total amateur.

 

Religion has killed billions since the beginning of time, socialism has killed tens of millions. Both are equally evil, and need to go the way of the dino's

 

(forgive the spelling, a bit drunk at the moment.)

[meritmaster]

Darwinism and atheism has killed hundreds of millions? Hitler was an atheist? Fucking lol.

Hitler was an Athiest.

This is like fact, so how did you not learn this?

Watching to much leftist media huh? I like movie opinions too.

[Skander1345]

Israel itself is a horrible apartheid state.

You don't simply occupy someone's land and expect them to laugh and not fight back, they kill children like idiots and complain when Hamas fires back.

Besides religion should not be a thing on LTT honestly, it's stupid.

I would challenge any "pro palestinian" person, to find a map dating before 1900, with a country on it called Palestine. The simple fact is, this country has not, and should not, exist.

There has never been any such country, that land was offered to the muslims at the end of world war 2, when they declined and the "jews" said yes, then all of a sudden it became sacred holy land.

Palestine and Islam are as a whole, organizations based on racial hatred that started with the prophet muhammed being the bastard son of Abraham.

Learn your friggin history liberals, just because your college professor tells you something doesn't make it true. and while we're at it, socialism is not better than capitalism in any way shape or form, and is in fact responsible for many millions of deaths around the world.

You think Hitler was evil? compared to good comerade stalin, hitler was a complete and total amateur.

Tell me which part of "thou shall not kill" says "thou shall kill millions, and billions"

Also nice facts their Jr.

"Not to mention that religion has set mankind back far more than the good (if any) it actually does." Without the bible America, and the US would not exists, and same with the thousands of years we put mankind forward to.

The free market stems from the bible, and judeo-Christian law, and the Free Market is what set technology on a rampage. Benjamin Franklin, Edison, Tesla, Farhnesworth, the polio guys, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and anyone who has succeeded in changing the world

um, no, just no. Simply disagreeing with me, doesn't make it fact. Just like the religious nutjobs that came to our school with printed out pieces of paper saying "evolution is a lie" doesn't make that fact.

Hitler was an Athiest.

This is like fact, so how did you not learn this?

Watching to much leftist media huh? I like movie opinions too.

Atheism is lack of religion, not a religion. So how is this in any way proving a point?

[Misanthrope]

I would challenge any "pro palestinian" person, to find a map dating before 1900, with a country on it called Palestine. The simple fact is, this country has not, and should not, exist.

There has never been any such country, that land was offered to the muslims at the end of world war 2, when they declined and the "jews" said yes, then all of a sudden it became sacred holy land.

Palestine and Islam are as a whole, organizations based on racial hatred that started with the prophet muhammed being the bastard son of Abraham.

 

Right, so let's just fucking kill them all. Oh wait, that's not alright. Read my initial post: Even if you concede the historical claim to the lands (Note that I'm conceding for the sake of argument only) there's still no justification for the responses from Israel. 

[meritmaster]

Israel itself is a horrible apartheid state.

You don't simply occupy someone's land and expect them to laugh and not fight back, they kill children like idiots and complain when Hamas fires back.

 

Besides religion should not be a thing on LTT honestly, it's stupid.

Ah so you think MLK was wrong then, and that Malcolm X is right?

 

Nature disagrees with you. 

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"Besides religion should not be a thing on LTT honestly, it's stupid"

Everyone should know, and discuss their opinions. 

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[Trik'Stari]

Tell me which part of "thou shall not kill" says "thou shall kill millions, and billions"

Also nice facts their Jr.

"Not to mention that religion has set mankind back far more than the good (if any) it actually does." Without the bible America, and the US would not exists, and same with the thousands of years we put mankind forward to. 

The free market stems from the bible, and judeo-Christian law, and the Free Market is what set technology on a rampage. Benjamin Franklin, Edison, Tesla, Farhnesworth, the polio guys, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and anyone who has succeeded in changing the world

 

Yeah just because you disagree, doesn't make it fact.

 

I had some religious nutjobs try to debate me and my friends in highschool, they showed up with pieces of paper with "evolution is a lie" printed on them (basically) and tried to act like that made it fact. The basic problem with religion, and any type of worship, is the suspension of disbelief. Try questioning your religion instead of "reinforcing" it. Try being what you should be as a human, a skeptic, question what you are told, read as much as you can, and decide for yourself like you should.

 

(also the bible doesn't count, as it was written by man, and is therefore fallable, I even had a seventh day adventist agree with me on that)

[meritmaster]

Nice you posted a picture with no rebuttal; you must care about your opinion, and truly value your thought.

[SuperfastJellyfish]

Hitler was an Athiest.

This is like fact, so how did you not learn this?

Watching to much leftist media huh? I like movie opinions too.

 

pls stop

 

 

Right wingers aren't taken seriously on the internet anymore.

[Trik'Stari]

That's a modern map. The jews have more of a claim to that area, hamas recently abducted and murdered 3 israeli teens, both sides need to grow up, get the fuck over the past, and move on.

 

 

 

pls stop

 

 

Right wingers aren't taken seriously on the internet anymore.

Please dont equate religion with "right wingers", it shows your ignorance

 

I am a person that believes in gun rights, freedom of speech, and an athiest to boot. So what now?

[Hidden Orange]

*Sighs* One of the many topics never ever to talk about since it will never ever be discussed well and civil: religion and politics. Should I just ask a mod to lock this thread?

[meritmaster]

how did no one post tl;dr

Because that usually means

• "hey look at me, aren't i witty, and funny" like attitude, but when it's unoriginal.
• Inability read, process sentences, or think on your own, so it frustrates you, and you try to think of something to say that's funny so you can possibly get a few thumbs up on a forum; probably makes an individual like this sleep better.
• Wants to get warned by an admin