AMD benefits?

[Smiles1946]

So I am recently just started building my first computer because my laptop is about to give out and I was wondering is there any benefits in choosing an AMD over a Intel CPU

besides the fact that I can get an AMD and motherboard for the same price as a Intel CPU. Also if you had to choose with a tight budget would you choose an AMD or an Intel CPU?

(Hopefully this thread is in the right place )

[79wjd]

Depends what you consider tight and what you're doing with it. If you're rendering or doing lots of heavily threaded application, then amd pulls ahead, in gaming intel is usually better.

[Askew]

Nail down the budget please, and also tell us what the PC will be used for.

[Oshino Shinobu]

Depends on the price range really. AMD tend to be much better value, but there aren't as many nice motherboards, and they have more, weaker cores compared to Intel, so Intel tends to be a bit better for gaming with more powerful cores. 

[lx_srs]

Depends on the price range really. AMD tend to be much better value, but there aren't as many nice motherboards, and they have more, weaker cores compared to Intel, so Intel tends to be a bit better for gaming with more powerful cores. 

Not to mention,  L2 Cache is shared between every 2 cores on AMD's platform, whereas on an Intel CPU, each core gets its own L2.

[Guest]

There really aren't any benefits...

[79wjd]

There really aren't any benefits...

100% wrong

[lufihengr]

So I am recently just started building my first computer because my laptop is about to give out and I was wondering is there any benefits in choosing an AMD over a Intel CPU

besides the fact that I can get an AMD and motherboard for the same price as a Intel CPU. Also if you had to choose with a tight budget would you choose an AMD or an Intel CPU?

(Hopefully this thread is in the right place )

There are other Intel CPU's than i5's and i7's... Have you seen the i3 series or maybe the almighty Pentium G3258?

[NUFCThomas]

Just that there are a lot of cpus with more cores

[Smiles1946]

Woops it posted before I could finishing typing....

 

My budget is around $1500 AU

 

I would be using this PC to get my just through school, with a small amount of gaming if I can possible get time.

 

So this is the AMD I was thinking of going with

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21808

 

And the motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18040

 

So basically like I said I am willing to upgrade in the future but since this laptop is dying so fast it was kind of unexpected so I'm just in a rush to get a pc that will hold well till I get more money to upgrade. I'm hoping it will survive a year or so before I have to upgrade  

[AnotherTechGuy]

.

[79wjd]

If you want a laptop, no question go intel. As you usually get better performance and battery life.

If you're going with a desktop, then try for a 4670 if you have no intention to oc and a 4690k of you want the option. And then pair it up with an r9 290.

Australia pricing can get screwy, so is suggest trying to build a system with the above and see how pricing turns out.

[harrynowl]

At $1500 AUD Intel is the best choice.

 

See here:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($275.00 @ CPL Online) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia) 

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($177.00 @ CPL Online) 

Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($44.00 @ PLE Computers) 

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.00 @ CPL Online) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card  ($429.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ CPL Online) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($115.00 @ CPL Online) 

Total: $1408.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[Smiles1946]

100% wrong

 

Then what are the benefits of having an AMD?

[79wjd]

Then what are the benefits of having an AMD?

Depends what you consider tight and what you're doing with it. If you're rendering or doing lots of heavily threaded application, then amd pulls ahead, in gaming intel is usually better.

[Smiles1946]

 

Then what are the benefits of having an AMD?

Depends what you consider tight and what you're doing with it. If you're rendering or doing lots of heavily threaded application, then amd pulls ahead, in gaming intel is usually better.

 

 

 

Woops it posted before I could finishing typing....

 

My budget is around $1000-1200 AU

 

I would be using this PC to get my just through school, with a small amount of gaming if I can possible get time.

 

So this is the AMD I was thinking of going with

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21808

 

And the motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18040

 

So basically like I said I am willing to upgrade in the future but since this laptop is dying so fast it was kind of unexpected so I'm just in a rush to get a pc that will hold well till I get more money to upgrade. I'm hoping it will survive a year or so before I have to upgrade  

That ^

[Vendetta]

Not to mention,  L2 Cache is shared between every 2 cores on AMD's platform, whereas on an Intel CPU, each core gets its own L2.

This is true for the actual cores on intel, the threads you get from hyperthreading share everything with the cores though.

[vm'N]

Cheaper Price, Mantle, Faster than Competition, First Company to introduce 5GHZ processor but that was a nutshell.

Mantle works on other CPUs than AMDs. You are thinking of their GPUs.

What do you mean with "Faster than competition"?

GHz is just a number #LinusQuotes

[79wjd]

Mantle works on other CPUs than AMDs. You are thinking of their GPUs.

What do you mean with "Faster than competition"?

GHz is just a number #LinusQuotes

mantle also works with APUs

Probably that an amd chip is faster than an equally priced intel chip...which isn't exactly true, but they are more cost efficient--in te short term anyway.

[vm'N]

mantle also works with APUs

I know. But you are not going to put up a APU against a Intel CPU. I'm pretty sure this thread was about AMDs FX desktop processors.

[79wjd]

I know. But you are not going to put up a APU against a Intel CPU. I'm pretty sure this thread was about AMDs FX desktop processors.

i see nothing about fx anywhere. He asked what are the benefits of amd, and that's one of them.

[Rubenis]

Cheaper Price, Mantle, Faster than Competition, First Company to introduce 5GHZ processor but that was a nutshell.

 

Cheaper than Intel?? Yeah, but not by much for performance.

 

Faster in what way? 8 core AMD is on par with 4 core Intel. So what is considered as faster??

 

Mantle is on GPU and APU, but APUs are not serious competition for Intel + dedicated GPU, and there is little to none price difference.

 

With all 5 Ghz FX is slower than i7 3770k, 4770k, 4790k.

[APrettyCoolWalrus]

Then what are the benefits of having an AMD?

Better performance while streaming on Twitch. Most other things Intel beats AMD.

[mapegl]

I would say advantage of AMD is usually having more cores, so people with VMs (my brother has a server at work, and it is great he says that they have 8 cores in it, despite it being a small and cheap one) and such might benefit here. Single-core performance is better on Intel, so they often outperform AMD CPUs in gaming scenarios.

Also AMD is usually cheaper than Intel, but you have to consider also that AMD often consumes more power.....

 

So pro AMD: more cores and cheaper

pro Intel: faster single-core perf. (5GHZ on AMD is slower than 5GHZ on intel, al boils down to architecture) and power-efficient

 

I would always buy Intel, since I don't need very many cores and there are still many programs not utilizing more than 4 cores. BUT anything with 6 or 8 core support can greatly benefit from an AMD consumer CPU, and of course the very-high-end-super-expensive INTEL ones, which are not really comparable here.....they are just awesome and too expensive.

[lx_srs]

This is true for the actual cores on intel, the threads you get from hyperthreading share everything with the cores though.

Well yeah, but what I was saying is that the shared L2 on AMD's platform is what causes their 8 core CPU's to run more like Quad's with HT.