AMD to Intel switch

[Bansh33]

So I am an AMD fan boy. But I must say I am awfully excited for the new pentium anniversary chip g3258. So excited that I may ditch my love for AMD And move to Intel. Please don't just say get an i5 or i7 because everyone does that when it wasn't apart of the question. Anyways tell me your thoughts anddddd Intel fanboys nows your chance to get someone to switch from red to blue! Anddddd.......GO!

[Oshino Shinobu]

Depends what you're switching from. The new Pentium chip is a little beast for the price though, if you overclock.

[i_build_nanosuits]

pentium dual core CPU can only do 2 threads at a time, we are in 2014 and games now pretty much all use 4 to 6 somewhat heavy threads making the dual core pentium almost useless for gaming no matter the clock speed it cant process enough instructions at once for game to run acceptable framerate on it...if you consider it for a gaming pc forget about it it's dead in the bad already.

what a way to start huh!..don't want to hit too hard but i did tested my i7 with 2 cores and hyperthreading diabled making it a 4.4GHZ pentium and it sucks in 90% of the games.

If you consider playing modern games with this i highly suggest a core i3-4150 as a bare minimum and if possible step it up to the core i5-4460...if you can't afford those i highly recommand looking into the FX-6300 + 970 chipset motherboard as it will perform similar to the core i3 in most modern games exception to the highly cpu intensive single-threaded old tech ones (mmo's and rts mostly) and will outperform the i3 in modern multi-threaded games (watch dogs, crysis3...)

[Katsu-K1L]

what everyone said, if you have the money go for a locked i5 or a i3, that pentium is a good cpu but its not for Modern games, if you want to stick to amd get a fx 6300 or a 8320 if you can.

[Zelx]

pentium dual core CPU can only do 2 threads at a time, we are in 2014 and games now pretty much all use 4 to 6 somewhat heavy threads making the dual core pentium almost useless for gaming no matter the clock speed it cant process enough instructions at once for game to run acceptable framerate on it...if you consider it for a gaming pc forget about it it's dead in the bad already.

what a way to start huh!..don't want to hit too hard but i did tested my i7 with 2 cores and hyperthreading diabled making it a 4.4GHZ pentium and it sucks in 90% of the games.

 

Even after benchmarkings showing that it's the best price - perfomance cpu? And runs way over 60 fps and with better minimum frames? get your facts right.

[Bansh33]

Ok I just wanted to know everyone's thoughts! Thanks for the input!

[Bansh33]

Even after benchmarkings showing that it's the best price - perfomance cpu? And runs way over 60 fps and with better minimum frames? get your facts right.

So what are you trying to get at?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Even after benchmarkings showing that it's the best price - perfomance cpu? And runs way over 60 fps and with better minimum frames? get your facts right.

i tested all this myself young man, no need to check at benchmarks, it can hardly maintain 25FPS and stutters A LOT while playing watch dogs...crysis 3 is the same thing too, can't maintain 30FPS (and this is overclocked at 4.4ghz with a GTX780)

[Vrbas]

That chip is definitely great for a budget MMO build. But that's about it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

That chip is definitely great for a budget MMO build. But that's about it.

defenetly agree...MMO's,some indies and most RTS games that uses only two main threads will run flawlessy on it and/or any game that are not that CPU intensive...

but the second you start throwing modern ''somewhat'' CPU intensive games that run's more than 3 main threads at it the performance goes downhill really quickly.

But don't get me wrong it's not a bad CPU by any means, it's a 60$ chip that is meant to totaly max out facebook, youtube and solitaire but not much more, that's it.

[Faa]

i tested all this myself young man, no need to check at benchmarks, it can hardly maintain 25FPS and stutters A LOT while playing watch dogs...crysis 3 is the same thing too, can't maintain 30FPS (and this is overclocked at 4.4ghz with a GTX780)

Not true.

Stuttering doesnt have anything to do with cpu's unless they bottleneck so hard making the gpu dip down to zero load which isn't the case with any cpu you have these days.

Anyways this guy doesnt mention what games he plays, has a 6800k so how can we tell a certain cpu can be an upgrade for him?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Not true.

Stuttering doesnt have anything to do with cpu's unless they bottleneck so hard making the gpu dip down to zero load which isn't the case with any cpu you have these days.

Anyways this guy doesnt mention what games he plays, has a 6800k so how can we tell a certain cpu can be an upgrade for him?

your crysis 3 video is useless you don't do anything not once did you require anything to be processed by the CPU, get in the welcome to the jungle level and start shooting at guards and stuff, of course if you stand still and only move the mouse around and not shooting anything and no AI or physics or anything is going on you don't notice it...and about the watch dogs one we are talking about the pentium dual core here not the i3, the i3 has acceptable performance ranging from 30FPS to 45FPS on highest settings and bottleneck the GTX 780 to about only 65 to 70% of it's full capacity, take it down to the pentium dual core dual thread and drive in downtown chicago and start bumping into stuff to throw some physics calculations at it and you will se it start taking pauses and can hardly get above 25FPS most of the time.

[Bansh33]

Not true.

Stuttering doesnt have anything to do with cpu's unless they bottleneck so hard making the gpu dip down to zero load which isn't the case with any cpu you have these days.

Anyways this guy doesnt mention what games he plays, has a 6800k so how can we tell a certain cpu can be an upgrade for him?

I love my 6800k it runs smoothly. The video linus just made me pretty excited for it which doesn't happen often for me with cpus. But I primarily play borderlands 1&2, a good amount of mainstream fps', gw2, some indies

[i_build_nanosuits]

I love my 6800k it runs smoothly. The video linus just made me pretty excited for it which doesn't happen often for me with cpus. But I primarily play borderlands 1&2, a good amount of mainstream fps', gw2, some indies

GW2 and some indies would show an improvement with the pentium those are dual threaded games, the others i don't think you would notice any improvement if any...certainly not enough to consider the price for this upgrade...if you play A LOT of GW2, planet side 2, elder scroll online or skyrim...those are the kind of games where the intel fast cores shine, but having only 2 of them and no hyperthreading is a real handicap in so many games wich can't be fixed by only increasing the clockspeed, games are coded in a way that they often require a certain amount of instructions to be processed at once for them to run at acceptable framerates and if you don't meet that minimum your basicaly screwed. You should look into an i3-4150 or i5-4460 instead.

[Faa]

your crysis 3 video is useless you don't do anything not once did you require anything to be processed by the CPU

Wait. Because it proved you wrong its useless? I've been swimming in water, its raining there all the time plenty of physics.

 

and about the watch dogs one we are talking about the pentium dual core here not the i3, the i3 has acceptable performance ranging from 30FPS to 45FPS on highest settings and bottleneck the GTX 780 to about only 65 to 70% of it's full capacity, take it down to the pentium dual core dual thread and drive in downtown chicago and start bumping into stuff to throw some physics calculations at it and you will se it start taking pauses and can hardly get above 25FPS most of the time.

 

 

A i3 isn't a bottleneck as you clearly can see the averages were 50/50 -> 99%. A pentium clocked to 4.5GHz's multithreaded performance will pass a i3. 6300's aren't any better than i3's in WD anyways, 8320's are struggling maintaining 70% load on a single 780.

[Vrbas]

I love my 6800k it runs smoothly. The video linus just made me pretty excited for it which doesn't happen often for me with cpus. But I primarily play borderlands 1&2, a good amount of mainstream fps', gw2, some indies

Well if you love it and it runs smoothly then why would you want to upgrade? Lol

As far as the games you mentioned the pentium will do just fine.

[Totally-A-Hero]

How did i know there would be fightining in this thread? Oh ya AMD and INTEL are BOTH in the title.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Wait. Because it proved you wrong its useless? I've been swimming in water, its raining there all the time plenty of physics.

 

 

 

A i3 isn't a bottleneck as you clearly can see the averages were 50/50 -> 99%. A pentium clocked to 4.5GHz's multithreaded performance will pass a i3. 6300's aren't any better than i3's in WD anyways, 8320's are struggling maintaining 70% load on a single 780.

wait wo wo wo wo wo...the rain and water is only effects that are processed by the GPU man, i would have only could assumed that you at least know what type of proccesses are computed by the cpu and wich are GPU rendered..?! okay, shadows, some lighting effects, AI (this is artificial intelligence use google if you aint know what this is) and physics are the most commonly CPU processed effects in gaming...occlusion, reflections, everything related to texture, mipmapping, partcicles (RAIN) all that stuff fall in the category of GPU processed data.

and i don't know how you calculate your SLI 50/50 = 99% but here is the video that i made in wich i run watch dogs on a single GTX 780 and you can clearly see it bottlenecks it a ton even with the recording being done by the GPU using shadowplay wich raise the GPU load even more...you can see at exactly 2:28 you will see the GPU load hit as low as 35% and this is with a 3.4GHZ core i3...the GPU load hovers around 65% during the entire test..the core i7 at the end won't bottleneck the GTX 780 in watch dogs if you want to check that out:

[Bansh33]

How did i know there would be fightining in this thread? Oh ya AMD and INTEL are BOTH in the title.

I wasn't asking for a fight I just want to know more about the performance of the pentium

[Bansh33]

Let's calm down a little bit it's just a discussion.

[Sauron]

The pentium is great value, IF the cpu you have now is very slow and even a cheap upgrade will make a big difference. If you already have a good cpu there's no reason to get the pentium.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Basically you cant game on a pentium. If you wanna new CPU get a i5-i7 or the 8320/50 or fx6300. No i3 there usless as a pentium

[Totally-A-Hero]

Oh but for websurfing pentiums are good.

[Bansh33]

I have a a10 apu Richland

[Bansh33]

It looks like I'm staying with it from the feedback I've received. Thank you for the helps brochachos