Ram upgrade not enough??

[David William]

Before I had an 8gb ram and everything was slowing down so I upgrading to 24GB ram 

 

What I cant believe is how already 17GB of the ram is being used up without me doing anything at all.Lije how?Before I had 8 and things slowed down when I opened too much chrome tabs but now out of 24 Gigs 70 percent is being used up? HOW?

[OddOod]

Windows likes to cache files in spare RAM. The basic philosophy is "you paid for all the RAM so we're gonna use all the RAM"
The nice thing is that it usually caps it at ~70% one way or another. If you have RAM to spare, it'll cache some files there, if you are using too much RAM, it will drop stuff to the Page file (typically on your boot drive) in order to free up more space. 
The advantage of caching files in the RAM is that it makes the OS feel snappier. The disadvantage is that.... there isn't really much of one? I can't think of a program that would spike the ram so hard that it would crash or anything.
My primary rig has 2x32GB of RAM and once I launch everything and let it idle, it will usually hover around 32GB(50%) +/- 10GB in use. 
If you are running into problems, you can grab PC Manager from the Windows Store and use the Boost function which flushes all the cached files. 

PS Win+Shift+S should bring up the Snipping Tool which will allow you to take a screenshot. The resulting clip will be on your clipboard so you can just paste it whereever
https://www.take-a-screenshot.org/

[porina]

1 hour ago, David William said:

What I cant believe is how already 17GB of the ram is being used up without me doing anything at all.Lije how?Before I had 8 and things slowed down when I opened too much chrome tabs but now out of 24 Gigs 70 percent is being used up? HOW?

Maybe it was swapping more than you knew? Some stuff might be smart enough to scale somewhat with available.

 

It would be interesting to see a screenshot of the Memory tab of Task Manager.

 

1 hour ago, OddOod said:

Windows likes to cache files in spare RAM.

OP's image shows 68% usage in task manager, where I believe on that section it does not include caches. Something is using that ram other than cache.

 

Below examples from my current system. Note I'm using ~24% of 32GB, or just under 8GB. On Memory tab 7.4GB "in use" and separately 19.2GB cached.

 

 

[Dedayog]

22 minutes ago, porina said:

Maybe it was swapping more than you knew? Some stuff might be smart enough to scale somewhat with available.

 

It would be interesting to see a screenshot of the Memory tab of Task Manager.

 

OP's image shows 68% usage in task manager, where I believe on that section it does not include caches. Something is using that ram other than cache.

 

Below examples from my current system. Note I'm using ~24% of 32GB, or just under 8GB. On Memory tab 7.4GB "in use" and separately 19.2GB cached.

 

 

How'd you get your Hardware Reserved so low?  Mine, even with iGPU disabled, is double that. 

 

[porina]

36 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

How'd you get your Hardware Reserved so low?  Mine, even with iGPU disabled, is double that. 

I never gave it any thought before. Now you mention it, looking at a few systems that happen to be on right now:

7980XE: 309MB

5800H: 148MB (iGPU disabled)

245KF: 388MB

[ewitte]

68% isn't a huge deal.  It isn't really generally a problem if it doesn't go into the 90s and/or start slowing down the system.  Back when I had 32GB I would idle around 20-30GB depending on if LR/Photoshop (or both) was open along with a huge part going to Chrome.  I got tired of closing everything because it was extremely sluggish running a game on top of that.

 

EDIT: generally, 100% of the time some kind of photo application is open (I moved to Affinity), Chrome with 200+ tabs, Edge AND Firefox.

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, OddOod said:

The nice thing is that it usually caps it at ~70% one way or another

Yeah sure... My windows always goes all the way leaving me with like 3mb free (in the resource monitor thing at least)...

 

But it's fine, I know how it works there's no issues whatsoever with my 16gb, in games it's more likely to fill the 12gb vram than the system ram for example...

 

(I even have another 32gb kit laying around, but too lazy to put it in, and I don't need it lol...  

[David William]

10 hours ago, porina said:

Maybe it was swapping more than you knew? Some stuff might be smart enough to scale somewhat with available.

 

It would be interesting to see a screenshot of the Memory tab of Task Manager.

 

OP's image shows 68% usage in task manager, where I believe on that section it does not include caches. Something is using that ram other than cache.

 

Below examples from my current system. Note I'm using ~24% of 32GB, or just under 8GB. On Memory tab 7.4GB "in use" and separately 19.2GB cached.

 

 

 

[David William]

11 hours ago, OddOod said:

Windows likes to cache files in spare RAM. The basic philosophy is "you paid for all the RAM so we're gonna use all the RAM"
The nice thing is that it usually caps it at ~70% one way or another. If you have RAM to spare, it'll cache some files there, if you are using too much RAM, it will drop stuff to the Page file (typically on your boot drive) in order to free up more space. 
The advantage of caching files in the RAM is that it makes the OS feel snappier. The disadvantage is that.... there isn't really much of one? I can't think of a program that would spike the ram so hard that it would crash or anything.
My primary rig has 2x32GB of RAM and once I launch everything and let it idle, it will usually hover around 32GB(50%) +/- 10GB in use. 
If you are running into problems, you can grab PC Manager from the Windows Store and use the Boost function which flushes all the cached files. 

PS Win+Shift+S should bring up the Snipping Tool which will allow you to take a screenshot. The resulting clip will be on your clipboard so you can just paste it whereever
https://www.take-a-screenshot.org/

Ah ok,I was really dumbfounded how half of the ram is being used up

[David William]

7 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Yeah sure... My windows always goes all the way leaving me with like 3mb free (in the resource monitor thing at least)...

 

But it's fine, I know how it works there's no issues whatsoever with my 16gb, in games it's more likely to fill the 12gb vram than the system ram for example...

 

(I even have another 32gb kit laying around, but too lazy to put it in, and I don't need it lol...  

If you dont use the 32gb,mind sending it to me  ;))