Upgrade path forward

[m1lk3y]

Budget (including currency): $1000 max?

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Battlefield 6, many different simulator games, Overwatch, etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Well here's the thing, I'm not sure if I am going to upgrade any time soon as I'm mostly happy with my performance other than the few new titles like Battlefield I've been playing. I currently game on a 5900X and a 3080 10gb, and I game on two 1440p 360hz monitors (why did I buy them? I don't know it was a stupid impulse buy but damn do they look good). I don't know if there's any major changes coming up with hardware releases, I'm mostly just trying to make a plan when the time comes. Would it make that much of a difference to go from a 5900X to an X3D processor from AMD? Would it help to eventually find a GPU with more memory? Any recommendations on good choices to replace? 

 

[Tetras]

19 minutes ago, m1lk3y said:

Would it make that much of a difference to go from a 5900X to an X3D processor from AMD?

It can, but it depends (on the game, resolution, settings). If the next AMD X3D comes with the rumoured 12-cores (in one CCD, with the 3D cache), then that could be a good upgrade for you.

 

The 9800X3D is faster in games, there's no doubt there, but it is dubiously faster in fully multithreaded workloads because you'd have your current 12 cores versus 8. If there's just gaming on this PC, then it doesn't matter either way.

 

21 minutes ago, m1lk3y said:

Would it help to eventually find a GPU with more memory?

Yes, but as above: it depends. 3080 is still hard to replace affordably. Yes, a 5070 Ti or 5080 is better, but they're not cheap. The extra VRAM in the Super versions will be attractive, but that'll do little for the price.

[dizmo]

Which X3D processor? There are many. Usually never worth it if you're looking at same gen. Would there be improvements? Sure. Would you notice them in usage that wasn't a benchmark or graph? Unlikely.

 

Do you do anything other than game? If not, might be worth looking at 6 core/12 thread CPUs. There really isn't a performance difference, but there is a cost savings. I'll likely be going this route with my next PC build, which should be next year when I move. Honestly the 7800X3D gets performance that's essentially on par with anything newer, so I'd just try to hunt down one of those in a used system, sell of the rest and enjoy a free upgrade that way. 

[podkall]

Grabbing the base, with 3080, and throwing it on decent AM5 system could give a noticeable upgrade and performance uplift on the CPU side.

[m1lk3y]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

Which X3D processor? There are many. Usually never worth it if you're looking at same gen. Would there be improvements? Sure. Would you notice them in usage that wasn't a benchmark or graph? Unlikely.

 

Do you do anything other than game? If not, might be worth looking at 6 core/12 thread CPUs. There really isn't a performance difference, but there is a cost savings. I'll likely be going this route with my next PC build, which should be next year when I move. Honestly the 7800X3D gets performance that's essentially on par with anything newer, so I'd just try to hunt down one of those in a used system, sell of the rest and enjoy a free upgrade that way. 

Yeah, currently I only game and I don't really see myself doing anything more than that at least in the near future. I was actually considering a 7800x3d, I saw one today at best buy and it got my mind thinking about it, but that's good to know. I'll keep it in mind when the time comes!

[m1lk3y]

3 hours ago, Tetras said:

It can, but it depends (on the game, resolution, settings). If the next AMD X3D comes with the rumoured 12-cores (in one CCD, with the 3D cache), then that could be a good upgrade for you.

 

The 9800X3D is faster in games, there's no doubt there, but it is dubiously faster in fully multithreaded workloads because you'd have your current 12 cores versus 8. If there's just gaming on this PC, then it doesn't matter either way.

 

Yes, but as above: it depends. 3080 is still hard to replace affordably. Yes, a 5070 Ti or 5080 is better, but they're not cheap. The extra VRAM in the Super versions will be attractive, but that'll do little for the price.

Yeah I figured that was going to be the case with the GPU, I really don't think my CPU struggles much in the games I play, I think the biggest limiting factor is the VRAM and really only in battlefield. Maybe I'll just try and snag a deal on a super card at some point just for the uplift in VRAM, or maybe even switch over to an AMD card since they have many cards with lots of it... Thanks!

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, m1lk3y said:

Yeah, currently I only game and I don't really see myself doing anything more than that at least in the near future. I was actually considering a 7800x3d, I saw one today at best buy and it got my mind thinking about it, but that's good to know. I'll keep it in mind when the time comes!

Just don't buy a new one. It's not really worth it and if you buy on ebay you're covered against DOA anyway